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Electoral fraud - Jan Klimkowski - 10-12-2009
Quote:Bolivia: Revolutionary change
Editorial The Guardian,
Tuesday 8 December 2009
President Evo Morales won a stunning victory in Bolivia yesterday, taking 63% of the popular vote and guiding his party to win control of congress. Bolivia's first indigenous president has won the biggest popular mandate in recent memory, destroying three political parties that rotated the presidency between them for the last two decades. In doing this, Mr Morales has gone a long way to making the social transformation inside Bolivia irreversible. The Indian majority is getting back the voice denied to it for centuries. South Africa remembers Nelson Mandela, and eastern Europe the fall of the Berlin Wall. What a former herder of llamas has achieved in one of the world's poorest nations may be no less momentous.
Mr Morales has done this by defying the Washington consensus on development, natural gas and coca leaves. In his first term, he sent the IMF, the Drug Enforcement Administration (DEA) and the US ambassador packing – all for different reasons. He renationalised the gas industry and increased royalties on hydrocarbons. The result was three years of budget surpluses and $8bn in cash reserves. He gave cash payments to school children, mothers and pensioners, giving poor families an incentive to keep children in full-time education. Curiously, Bolivia now wins praise from the IMF, which applauded the government's prudence in saving part of the windfall income from gas revenues.
The relationship with the US remains troubled, partly because Latin America is so low on the list of Barack Obama's foreign policy priorities. But there are also specific reasons: a decision by George Bush to suspend trade preferences benefiting Bolivian textile and jewellery workers, as punishment for failing to co-operate with his drug eradication programmes, was made permanent by Mr Obama. As a former leader of Bolivia's coca growers, Mr Morales's policy on the little green leaf differs little from the pragmatism British troops show to Afghan poppy growers. Mr Morales has allowed coca farmers to cultivate a limited acreage per family; he promotes the export of the leaf as a tea, and vowed to stop cocaine production. It should not be beyond the resources of the state department to get back on the right side of Bolivian history by re-establishing relations with a genuinely progressive president.
The future is clouded. It always is when one man is given so much power. There are question marks over how he will deal with his opponents, now that a national political opposition no longer exists. The country needs foreign investors to help it export value-added products instead of raw materials. But thus far, his efforts and his victory are to be applauded.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2009/dec/08/bolivia-evo-morales-presidential-election
Electoral fraud - Ruben Mundaca - 10-12-2009
Amazing, isn't it Jan?......
I am beliving that modern history is not writed by historicians, but by journalists that maybe spend some hours/day in a location, do a few interviews to certain people and run to write his history, coz newspaper have to be delivered in the morning....
Ho, well.....
Electoral fraud - Ruben Mundaca - 10-12-2009
Keith Millea Wrote:Ruben,
I do not know the political ins and outs of Bolivia,so it would be foolish of me to make an informed opinion.I will say this though.Your country had what at this time seems to be a free and fair election.Evo Morales recieved 63% of the vote.The great majority of your country seems to like the direction that Morales is taking.So I ask you this question.What don't you like about Democracy?Well,beside the fact that your choice didn't win.
Its not about my choice, Keith.
Maybe you live in an old democracy and is boring natural for you what is still a constant fight for us.
For example, to have a clean election, with vote not suspected to be fraudulenty inflated to gain total power. To have reliable electoral court that guarantee that voting is clean and don't promote or tolerate fraud.
Again:http://eldia.com.bo/index.php?cat=150&pla=3&id_articulo=21164 : Thousands of duplicated identification numbers found in the biometrical electoral registration, doing just a little sample of it. But the electoral court says "evrything's ok" and THEY VOTE. It's like duplicating your social security number, and give to other persons the same number.
That's concordant with the fact that electoral citizen registration has increased from Four millon voters to nearly 5.200.000 IN ONLY ONE YEAR.
He win with 62% of voter's choice?... that's nothing. Next election he will win with 200% of votes.
A Democracy is the rule of the law, and not the rule of a man (that's tyranny), where the voice and rights of minority have to be heared and respected too. Where the president is not only the first man of the country, buy his first server too.
A place where you can sleep quietly in your home, not expecting that Morale's send his "police" to take you in the middle of the night, carry you tied and hooded to a plane and sended to be trial in La Paz city accused of "felonies" that you never hear about, thousands of miles away from your home and city, with Morale's prosecutor and Morales judge. Because you are oppositor.
Democracy is transparency too. How can you pay your taxes if you see Morale's "Union Leaders" buying houses of thousands of dollars in exclusive city locations?... or driving the last Hummer vehicle?..... And when you want to know governmet revenues and expenses, they say, "yeah, shure... come tomorrow... and tomorrow... and tomorrow..."
When you see evryday that a man who swear to accomplish and enforce law and constitution, is the first to broke them...?.. when you see he is protecting drug traffiking?...( case of Margarita Teran's brothers, former Morale's lover caugth with 147 Kgs. of cocaine. That triggers Morale's decission to dismiss DEA from Bolivia. They are free now, despite they where caugth in flagrancy: http://www.lostiempos.com/diario/actualidad/local/20091010/hermanas-teran-faltan-a-audiencia-en-tribunales_40119_67750.html)
All that (and much more) is happening here. If you are interested, please take your time and read my previous posts.
Electoral fraud - Ruben Mundaca - 17-12-2009
Jan Klimkowski Wrote:So, Senor Mundaca, what is Carlos Valverde Bravo's position on the Unión Juvenil Crucinista and the Camba Nacion?
A little more about Valverde: He just awarded again (by second or third consecutive year) the prize for "Best Analisis Journalism" gived by Bisa Group, the most important award for press in Bolivia.
Electoral fraud - Jan Klimkowski - 17-12-2009
Ruben Mundaca Wrote:Jan Klimkowski Wrote:So, Senor Mundaca, what is Carlos Valverde Bravo's position on the Unión Juvenil Crucinista and the Camba Nacion?
A little more about Valverde: He just awarded again (by second or third consecutive year) the prize for "Best Analisis Journalism" gived by Bisa Group, the most important award for press in Bolivia.
Is that this bunch?
Quote:The BISA Financial Group is made up of Banco BISA, BISA Seguros, La Vitalicia, BISA Leasing, BISA Safi, BISA Titularizadora, Raisa and Bolsa. The Multimedia Communications Group is made up of the ATB television network and newspapers La Razón and Extra
Electoral fraud - Keith Millea - 17-12-2009
Ruben,
The big problem is that you lost all credibility here for your positions way back in your very first post on this forum.
Quote:So, Morales government intelligence contact and hire Eduardo Rosza Flores as a double-agent. He went to Santa Cruz to contact opponents showing his war experience and his allegated capacity to organize a military resistance. Many oppositors take the bite and begin to give money and recive some training from Rosza, who begin to live a good life in the companion of his foreign friends (Michael Dwayer,Arpad Magyarosi, Elod Toaso) introduced as "military experts". But people begin to be tired to give money and recive allmost nothing, so they stop founding Rosza, specially when Rosza try to intimidate the catholic church cardinal by placing an explosive device in his residence while he was out of the city. Rosza do this as a way to justify the money he was reciving (without consulting his founders), telling people that they can blame the government, and asking more founding. By the other hand, he was asking more money to his real contractor ( the Morales government), threatening them to reveal the plot.
:hahaha:
Evo Morales hiring fascist assassins.
Ruben you're not gonna fool people here.
Electoral fraud - Ruben Mundaca - 18-12-2009
Keith Millea Wrote:Ruben,
The big problem is that you lost all credibility here for your positions way back in your very first post on this forum.
Quote:So, Morales government intelligence contact and hire Eduardo Rosza Flores as a double-agent. He went to Santa Cruz to contact opponents showing his war experience and his allegated capacity to organize a military resistance. Many oppositors take the bite and begin to give money and recive some training from Rosza, who begin to live a good life in the companion of his foreign friends (Michael Dwayer,Arpad Magyarosi, Elod Toaso) introduced as "military experts". But people begin to be tired to give money and recive allmost nothing, so they stop founding Rosza, specially when Rosza try to intimidate the catholic church cardinal by placing an explosive device in his residence while he was out of the city. Rosza do this as a way to justify the money he was reciving (without consulting his founders), telling people that they can blame the government, and asking more founding. By the other hand, he was asking more money to his real contractor ( the Morales government), threatening them to reveal the plot.
:hahaha:
Evo Morales hiring fascist assassins.
Ruben you're not gonna fool people here.
Yeah, whatever.....
Seems you ppl are way too much "smart" for me. No matter what I say or what I show to you, I allways will be "fooling you". Interesting...
Evo Morales HIRED those assasins and KILLED them too, that's what proofs points. If they where facist, maybe I can respect them, coz even facist fight and die for their beliefs. But they where just mercenaries. Big difference.
And what supposed to be my possition to have your "credibility" and some other people's of this forum, Keith ?... aplause the Morales crimes ?.... Ho, c'mon..... I live here, remember..??..
Electoral fraud - Ruben Mundaca - 18-12-2009
Jan Klimkowski Wrote:Ruben Mundaca Wrote:Jan Klimkowski Wrote:So, Senor Mundaca, what is Carlos Valverde Bravo's position on the Unión Juvenil Crucinista and the Camba Nacion?
A little more about Valverde: He just awarded again (by second or third consecutive year) the prize for "Best Analisis Journalism" gived by Bisa Group, the most important award for press in Bolivia.
Is that this bunch?
Quote:The BISA Financial Group is made up of Banco BISA, BISA Seguros, La Vitalicia, BISA Leasing, BISA Safi, BISA Titularizadora, Raisa and Bolsa. The Multimedia Communications Group is made up of the ATB television network and newspapers La Razón and Extra
Yeah, that bunch.
I suppose that made them suspicious of some conspiracy, isn't it..??...
http://www.noticiasbolivianas.net/2009/12/12/nominan-a-erbol-a-dos-%E2%80%98premios-bisa-al-periodismo-2009/
Anyway, ERBOL (a governamental media) has been nominated too, and they don't seems to suspect any conspiracy. Maybe because BISA doesen't qualify the works, wich in fact are done by an independent jury conformed by representatives of journalism unions and organizations of Bolivia....??...