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Protesters liberate broken Tory HQ and take to the roof as anti-cuts resisters resist shock therapy - Magda Hassan - 09-12-2010
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lV5SXYqGg1g&feature=player_embedded
Protesters liberate broken Tory HQ and take to the roof as anti-cuts resisters resist shock therapy - Jan Klimkowski - 09-12-2010
Chas and Camilla were toffing it in central London and their car got pelted, probably providing MSM with images of "violent anarchist thugs":
Quote:9pm Some further updates on the Prince Charles car incident. Abdul has emailed to say he was at Regent street when the prince's car was surrounded:
pathetic security of six police bikes for the prince, no one realised who it was, evidenced by the crowd screaming "tory scum" ... about 80 people then rushed up about 50m and made a roadblock out of roadworking blocks and metal gates, forcing the motorcade to swerve and turn away
He adds that the protest there seems to be ebbing away now.
8.40pm Reports are coming in that at about 7.30pm Prince Charles's car, which was driving along Regent street, was attacked by a crowd of protesters. The prince was in the car, as was Camilla.
Eyewitnesses said the car was well lit up, so it was easy to see who was inside. The car was surrounded by protesters, who broke a window and splashed the car with paint. Shortly afterwards, the police arrived, in a scene described as "complete chaos".
Listening to the Breaking News channels, with their descriptions of police officers being injured by violent protestors, and highly symbolic windows being smashed (eg tax dodger Top Shop and the Ministry of Justice), the clamour for protests to be banned is growing.
Some early video here:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/education/video/2010/dec/09/tuition-fees-student-protest-police
The police cavalry were charging again :ridinghorse:
Protesters liberate broken Tory HQ and take to the roof as anti-cuts resisters resist shock therapy - Jan Klimkowski - 09-12-2010
The Daily Mail, the authentic voice of Little Englanders everywhere, is frothing with fury:
Quote:Terrifying moment Charles and Camilla were surrounded by a baying mob and their car attacked in tuition fees riot
By Daily Mail Reporter
Last updated at 10:32 PM on 9th December 2010
Prince's limo paintballed on way to Palladium
20,000 students and activists lay siege to Westminster
Protesters throw flares, smoke bombs and snooker balls
Scotland Yard resort to 'kettling' in Parliament Square
At least 22 arrests, including two for arson and four for burglary
Fees increase is carried by 323 votes to 302 - majority of 21
This was the terrifying moment that a mob of anarchists attacked Prince Charles and Camilla's car outside the London Palladium tonight.
There's a fine gallery of pictures including Chas and Camilla, um, AGAPE, at the url:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1337088/TUITION-FEES-VOTE-PROTEST-Charles-Camillas-car-attacked-thousands-students-descend-Parliament.html#ixzz17entLZuj
Protesters liberate broken Tory HQ and take to the roof as anti-cuts resisters resist shock therapy - Magda Hassan - 10-12-2010
Wow. Love the look on Camilla's face.
Protesters liberate broken Tory HQ and take to the roof as anti-cuts resisters resist shock therapy - David Guyatt - 10-12-2010
News broadcasts are now throbbing with indignation about this.
The Crime Minister, David Cameron, has already made a statement about the need for the police to ensure future stability - and postured with a "how dare they" engage in completely illegal activities with the full weight of his Bullingdon Boys state at the cameras..
He made a big play about how the students trashed property.
Which is something Cameron's Bullingdon Boys do with impunity all the time.
A curiously hypocritical double-standard, no?
Protesters liberate broken Tory HQ and take to the roof as anti-cuts resisters resist shock therapy - Peter Lemkin - 10-12-2010
Royal car attack: Cameron calls for 'full force of law'
• Student leaders claim protesters suffered police brutality
• PM condemns 'mob' who attacked Charles and Camilla's car
http://www.guardian.co.uk/education/2010/dec/10/royal-car-attack-cameron-charles
James Meikle, Vikram Dodd and agencies
guardian.co.uk, Friday 10 December 2010 15.41 GMT
:hahaha:[Ya, gotta see the PHOTO!!!!!]
Prince Charles and his wife, Camilla, react as the royal car is attacked by protesters in London. Photograph: Matt Dunham/AP
David Cameron today promised the full force of the law would be used on the "mob" who attacked a car carrying Prince Charles and his wife, Camilla, and smashed property in central London last night, while student leaders hit back, claiming protesters had suffered police brutality.
Mark Bergfeld, of the Education Activist Network, claimed demonstrators had suffered "horrendous" conditions as they were kettled for up to 10 hours and said the Prince of Wales and the Duchess of Cornwall were just in "the wrong place at the wrong time".
"There was police brutality," he said. "I saw 14-year-olds carry out their friends with cracked heads and things like that.
"I saw that people were being kettled until 1am on Westminster bridge. They were held there without toilet facilities, without water or food for 10 hours. We don't live in that kind of regime."
Cameron and the Metropolitan police commissioner, Sir Paul Stephenson, said more than a small number of people were involved in violence during and after a Commons vote paving the way for a trebling of university tuition fees.
The prime minister admitted concerns over royal security must be addressed, but said the responsibility for violence lay with the protesters.
"We want to learn the lessons from that but, above all, we want to make sure that the people who behaved in these appalling ways feel the full force of the law of the land … There were quite a number of people who clearly were there wanting to pursue violence and to destroy property."
Attacks on the Treasury, supreme court and other buildings in central London left the Met facing questions about again losing control of the streets during a demonstration. It also faced questions about some officers being heavy handed, and the kettling of peaceful protesters. A total of 33 arrests were made.
An awful 24 hours for the police continued this morning with the announcement of an Independent Police Complaints Commission investigation into the case of a 20-year-old student who was apparently struck by a truncheon and left unconscious with bleeding on the brain.
Alfie Meadows, a philosophy student at Middlesex University, has undergone a three-hour operation. His mother said he was hit by police as he tried to leave the area outside Westminster Abbey and lost consciousness on the way to hospital.
Susan Meadows, 55, an English literature lecturer at Roehampton University, said: "He was hit on the head by a police truncheon … he's got tubes coming out of him everywhere. He will be in hospital for quite a while, it was a very major thing."
Speaking outside No 10, Cameron condemned the "completely unacceptable" behaviour of protesters. "It is no good saying this was a very small minority. It was not. There were quite a number of people who clearly were there wanting to pursue violence and to destroy property.
"I know that the Metropolitan police commissioner is going to be working hard to report on this. I also know, quite rightly, he will look into the regrettable incident where the Prince of Wales and his wife were nearly attacked by this mob. We want to learn the lessons from that."
The attack on the royal car was not the fault of the police, he said. "This was the fault of people who tried to smash up that car."
His remarks came after Stephenson said that armed officers protecting the royal couple showed enormous restraint and condemned the "thugs" involved in violence.
The commissioner said the attack on the royal car was a "hugely shocking incident and there will be a full criminal investigation" but added that "short of locking everything down" police had to try to find a balance between allowing protest and stopping violence.
He praised his officers and the royal protection officers for their actions in coping with a "very unpredictable demonstration … and very difficult night" and said they showed enormous restraint in the most difficult of circumstances.
"The route was thoroughly recced in advance, including up to several minutes beforehand when the route was still clear.
"The unpredictability of thugs and how they moved about the capital meant the protection officers were placed in a very difficult position."
He said kettling and other police tactics did not contribute to the violence. "It is an excuse people are hiding behind … People need to be responsible for their own behaviour," he said, adding that a significant number of protesters had behaved reprehensibly.
He denied the police operation had been "undercooked" and said it had involved nearly 3,000 officers.
A total of 34 protesters were arrested. Dozens of protesters and a number of officers were injured. The mayor of London, Boris Johnson, blamed a "large number of agitators who were determined to cause the maximum possible trouble and provocation and they succeeded".
He said a balance had to be struck between allowing protest and proportionate policing, saying the country could have a "different system", using watercannon and harsher police tactics that would have left "more broken heads this morning".
Charles and Camilla's car was surrounded by a mob as it drove down Regent Street on the way to a Royal Variety performance, with protesters kicking at the doors and shattering a rear window.
The protesters had spilled into the West End after an initially peaceful demonstration outside parliament deteriorated and spread.
Witnesses described how about 400 to 500 protesters were on Regent Street when the royal car was attacked. Charles and Camilla were visibly shaken but unharmed after up to 20 demonstrators set upon the vehicle with fists, boots and bottles, chanting "Off with their heads" and "Tory scum".
One witness said Charles kept calm, gently pushing his wife towards the floor to get her out of the line of fire.
"Charles got her on the floor and put his hands on her," said Adnan Nazir, a 23-year-old podiatrist who was following the protesters.
Today Charles and Camilla praised the efforts of police. A Clarence House spokesman said they understood the difficulties the police faced and were grateful for the job they did in "very challenging circumstances".
In other developments today, Charlie Gilmour, son of Pink Floyd guitarist David, apologised for climbing the Cenotaph during the protests, saying he "would like to express his deepest apologies for the terrible insult to the thousands of people who died bravely for our country".
The National Union of Students distanced itself from at least part of its London membership, pointing out that London University's student union had organised the demonstration in Parliament Square while the NUS held a rally on Victoria Embankment. The NUS president, Aaron Porter, said violent action was deplorable but it would continue to organise peaceful protest.
Clare Solomon, president of London University's student union, called the NUS leadership a disgrace. "They should have backed this demonstration. They are clearly out of touch," she said.
The NUS had paid thousands of pounds for "a glow-stick vigil", attracting 200 people, she said, when her union had spent hundreds on a protest that involved 35,000.
Solomon said it was hypocritical for people in the Tory party and others who voted for the war in Iraq to say that "this is violence when people are breaking windows as opposed to killing people".
The police should also take some responsibility, she said. "They were the ones beating us up and putting us in hospital when we were attempting to peacefully protest."
Protesters liberate broken Tory HQ and take to the roof as anti-cuts resisters resist shock therapy - Keith Millea - 10-12-2010
:hahaha::hahaha::hahaha:
I think she just had a wet fart......:rofl:
Protesters liberate broken Tory HQ and take to the roof as anti-cuts resisters resist shock therapy - The Moderators - 10-12-2010
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Protesters liberate broken Tory HQ and take to the roof as anti-cuts resisters resist shock therapy - Peter Lemkin - 10-12-2010
Keith Millea Wrote::hahaha::hahaha::hahaha:
I think she just had a wet fart......:rofl:
One amazing thing about the UK, is that its 'straight' and 'received' English Cambride-Oxford-Public School-MI5/6 Crowd AND the tabloids really have no difference -other than the wording and intellectual 'appeal'...same topics; same conclusions; same cast of 'characters'.... Isn't this play long past retiring?! Even Shakespeare is dead!, after all!
Protesters liberate broken Tory HQ and take to the roof as anti-cuts resisters resist shock therapy - Jan Klimkowski - 10-12-2010
David Guyatt Wrote:News broadcasts are now throbbing with indignation about this.
Yes, as we predicted.
It's 361 years since the head of an English King named Charles was first chopped off.
It seems that the bodyguards of the Heir to the Throne Charles were quite close to firing at those who dared to paintgun the royal limo.
From the Daily Torygraph:
Quote:Prince Charles and Camilla car attack: 'someone could have died'
The attack by a mob on the Rolls-Royce carrying the Prince of Wales and the Duchess of Cornwall could easily have ended in a fatality, a former police officer has warned.
Security analyst and former police officer Charles Shoebridge said armed royal protection officers travelling with the couple would have considered opening fire had they perceived a threat to their passengers.
"This is a very serious incident. It ranks amongst the most serious security breaches of the past decade," he said.
"Some of the demonstrators yesterday were carrying petrol, specifically to use in arson attacks. If the can of paint had been a can of petrol, it would have been very different."
The former intelligence officer, who has experience of public order policing, said: "One can visualise a situation where police felt they had no alternative but to open fire. It wasn't potentially dangerous. It was dangerous.
Asked whether royal protection officers were allowed to shoot protesters, Sir Paul Stephenson, the Scotland Yard Commissioner, said: "I am telling you that there are armed officers who protect principals and they show enormous restraint in achieving that very difficult balance in our society."
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/theroyalfamily/8193570/Prince-Charles-and-Camilla-car-attack-someone-could-have-died.html
Meanwhile:
David Guyatt Wrote:The Crime Minister, David Cameron, has already made a statement about the need for the police to ensure future stability - and postured with a "how dare they" engage in completely illegal activities with the full weight of his Bullingdon Boys state at the cameras..
He made a big play about how the students trashed property.
Which is something Cameron's Bullingdon Boys do with impunity all the time.
A curiously hypocritical double-standard, no?
Come now - the Bullingdon Boys were engaging in blood rituals, drawn from the initiation ceremonies of, most probably, the Hellfire Club....