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Halberstam's Vietnam Cover up book Exposed: Part 2 - Magda Hassan - 08-05-2011
Well, Morrow is about as cheap and ignorant as it gets. When are we going to see you rising above that? We're waiting and willing.
Halberstam's Vietnam Cover up book Exposed: Part 2 - Jan Klimkowski - 08-05-2011
Trowbridge H. Ford Wrote:I have nothing to do with the running of codshit.com. It's administrator is Edward Chanter, and its title and description are his making. He just posts my articles in the name of freedom of expression, and when he sees fit.
In fact, I have no blog, just rely what people like Chanter, Peter Presland, and others choose to post from me, and post about me.
Are you ever going to get beyond the cheap, ignorant shot?
Fine - blame it on your publisher.
As other threads have demonstrated, my central complaint is the lack of clarity with which you advance your arguments, and the lack of meaningful evidence you provide to support your hypotheses (if they can ever be understood).
Halberstam's Vietnam Cover up book Exposed: Part 2 - Trowbridge H. Ford - 08-05-2011
You hold me responsible for whatever else a publisher chooses to say about himself or his efforts when he posts something of mine - like I should be held accountable for everyting that scum bag John Young has posted since he has posted many articles of mine, ones either to get back at people he wants to get, or to help entrap me for Anglo-American officialdom.
Here is another link, Ms. Dee's "John F. Kennedy Assassination - Truth Emerges about LBJ", which connects James Douglass's claims with those of Philip Nelson about the murderous Vice President:
http://hubpages.com/hub/John-F-Kennedy-Assassination-Truth-Emerges-as-the-Lies-Die
You people don't even have the guts to admit what you are falsely claiming, much less retract your errors.
Halberstam's Vietnam Cover up book Exposed: Part 2 - Magda Hassan - 08-05-2011
And what does this mean exactly? Some Ms Dee, who ever they are talk about these two books in the same article. Nelson refers to Douglass but Douglass does not refer to Nelson in his book. It seems like you are saying 'I saw it on the internet so it must be true". Using the Miss Dee instead of Robert Morrow as your venerable source is not working either.
Halberstam's Vietnam Cover up book Exposed: Part 2 - Trowbridge H. Ford - 08-05-2011
What Ms. Dee reported on her blog.
Any more straws to grasp!
Halberstam's Vietnam Cover up book Exposed: Part 2 - Jan Klimkowski - 08-05-2011
Trowbridge H. Ford Wrote:It Means That The Douglass Book Claims that LBJ Masterminded The JFK Assassination
What Ms. Dee reported on her blog.
Any more straws to grasp!
Trowbridge - I'd have thought that a pre-requisite for becoming a US Counter-Intelligence agent was an ability to read and comprehend the English language.
It seems not.
No number of idiotic blog links or sources of false authority will turn James Douglass' JFK and the Unspeakable into a book claiming that "LBJ Masterminded The JFK Assassination".
Trowbridge - what is your purpose here?
Halberstam's Vietnam Cover up book Exposed: Part 2 - The Moderators - 08-05-2011
Trowbridge H Ford has been banned from the Deep Politics Forum.
Halberstam's Vietnam Cover up book Exposed: Part 2 - Phil Dragoo - 08-05-2011
I referred to the pertinent paragraph in Jim's review regarding Halberstam's depiction of Lodge:
He clearly tries to imply that this meeting was between only Johnson and Saigon ambassador Henry Cabot Lodge. (Halberstam, p. 298) And that Lodge had returned to Washington to give a report on deteriorating conditions in Vietnam. Not so. Kennedy brought Lodge back to Washington for the express purpose of firing him. (James Douglass, JFK and the Unspeakable, pgs. 374-75) Part of the reason for the termination was Lodge's role in the demise of Ngo Dinh Diem and his brother Nhu. This is a continuation of Halberstam's misrepresentations about Lodge. For he also says that Kennedy appointed him ambassador so as to involve the GOP in what could end up as a disaster. (Halberstam, p. 260) False. Kennedy didn't want to appoint Lodge at all. He wanted his old friend Edmund Gullion as Saigon ambassador. This was vetoed by Dean Rusk who wanted Lodge appointed. (Douglass, pgs. 150-52)
with the single sentence:
Halberstam plays Mickey the Dope about Lodgewho appears as a defiant mutineer in Unspeakable as the fires of war glow on the horizon.
The hissy retort crying "bullshit" fails.
The criticism of Halberstam stands.
Lodge was defying JFK in the handling of the Diem crisis. In Douglass may be seen Lodge in full unapologetic gloat, Kennedy shocked by the assassination and acting to remove Lodge.
Yet Halberstam pastes in a caricature of Lodge as servant of policy, providing continuum.
What was the function of the now-banned?
Throwing wooden shoes (sabots) into the mill gears, hence, sabotage.
Halberstam's Vietnam Cover up book Exposed: Part 2 - Jim DiEugenio - 08-05-2011
And the other thing Phil is that Kennedy was going to begin an investigation when he got back from Dallas about how the cable OK'ing the coup got sent in the first place.
So the firing of Lodge was the first step in the process.
Halberstam's book is so overrated its pathetic. And the fact that he never amended it tells us a lot. Even after Newman's book came out.
Halberstam's Vietnam Cover up book Exposed: Part 2 - Nathaniel Heidenheimer - 02-08-2012
"Flott was among the first contingent of Vietnamese marines who entered the palace after the cease-fire. But he was not among the first inside the building. Coming down the marble staircase was David Halberstam, dragging a ten-foot-long ivory tusk as a souvenir"--p. 416 Death of A Generation, Howard Jones. One of several references to Halberstam in Jone's book which seem to highlight his candidacy for the noble prize in Ubiquity, and timely too.
Was Halberstam Sellers or Claire Quilty?