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WHO says E. coli strain responsible for European outbreak is new strain never detected before - Carsten Wiethoff - 08-06-2011
From http://www.spiegel.de/wissenschaft/mensch/0,1518,767379,00.html (in German)
Three employees there had Diarrhoea, one confirmed EHEC (on 6., 11. and 12. May).
Four canteens and three restaurants, which all could trace sprouts back to the producer, together infected about 100 people.
Another 750 samples have been taken and are currently analysed.
The number of new infections is currently declining.
WHO says E. coli strain responsible for European outbreak is new strain never detected before - Peter Lemkin - 08-06-2011
Its BEAN SPROUTS -AGAIN!!!! :rofl:
WHO says E. coli strain responsible for European outbreak is new strain never detected before - Keith Millea - 08-06-2011
Sprout contamination is not uncommon.We've had our share here,although mostly with salmonella contamination.I sprout my own Alphalfa seeds.:what:
Clover sprouts taken off shelves
Salmonella leads to a warning about recent Sprouters Northwest products
By Christian Wihtol
The Register-Guard
Appeared in print: Tuesday, Jan. 4, 2011, page B1
Citing salmonella contamination, officials are telling consumers and retailers across Oregon and other regions of the Northwest to throw away any clover sprouts produced by Sprouters Northwest Inc. of Kent, Wash.
The brand is widely sold in major retail chains, including Albertsons and Safeway, Sprouters Northwest owner Bill Jones said Monday.
Jones said a U.S. Food and Drug Administration team is at the plant trying to determine the source of the bacterial contamination. It may have been the sprout seeds, which Sprouters Northwest buys from a supplier, Jones said. The seeds are being tested.
To date, at least seven people who ate the sprouts have been sickened by salmonella three in Oregon (two in Bend and one in Multnomah County) and four in Washington, the state Public Health Division said Monday. The sprouts were sold in Oregon, Washington, Idaho, Alaska and possibly other states, as well as in British Columbia.
The cases of salmonella were all reported beginning between Dec. 4 and Dec. 17, except the most recent case, which is still being evaluated and may have begun later in December, the state said. No hospitalizations or deaths have been reported.
Sprouters Northwest has stopped producing sprouts until the case is resolved, Jones said. Because of the short shelf life of sprouts, most of the sprouts that might be contaminated have most likely already been eaten or discarded, he said.
But William Keene, a senior epidemiologist at the state Public Health Division, said it will be some time before the state will be able to say whether the spate of illnesses is over.
"We're certainly not ready to say it's over, and we won't be able to say that for several weeks," he said. The bacteria takes time to make people sick, people take time to report being sick, and stool samples take time to analyze and confirm, Keene said.
This is the fourth time since 1997 that Sprouters Northwest sprouts have been cited as a source of salmonella contamination, Keene said.
All Sprouters Northwest-produced clover sprout products are covered in the recall, the state said.
The recalled sprouts were sold at retail stores in 4-ounce and 5-ounce plastic containers; larger 1-pound bags and 2-pound trays were sold to grocery stores and wholesale suppliers, which in turn supplied sprouts to restaurants and other outlets. The clover varieties include Clover, Clover & Onion, Spicy Sprouts and Deli Sprouts. All packages carry the Sprouters Northwest brand name, the state said.
State health officials say eating sprouts can be hazardous.
"Once again, sprouts have been identified as the cause of an outbreak of salmonellosis. Consumers who have sprouts at home should check to see if they have any of the recalled products and, if so, should discard them. Retailers should immediately check their stocks and pull any clover products from Sprouters Northwest," said William Keene, a senior epidemiologist at the state Public Health Division.
Raw sprouts repeatedly have been identified as a cause of salmonellosis outbreaks, E. coli infections and other diseases, the state said.
"This is at least the 13th sprout-caused outbreak that has sickened Oregonians since 1995, when we first started warning consumers about the risks of eating sprouts. Anyone concerned about food-borne disease should consider this before eating sprouts," Keene said. The risk of severe illness from salmonella bacteria is particularly high among the elderly and the very young.
Contaminated seed is usually the source of salmonella tainting in sprouts, the state said.
Salmonella and E. coli can flourish in the warm, moist indoor environment in which seeds are sprouted. Or, the seed can become contaminated before it is bought by sprouters.
Harmful bacteria can be present in bird droppings, fertilizing manure or contaminated irrigation water that comes in contact with the seed, according to the U.S. Department of Agriculture.
Once Sprouters Northwest heard about the outbreak, it immediately decided to recall its clover sprouts.
"They have been cooperating fully," Keene said.
Retailers and wholesalers that have any of the recalled sprouts should segregate them from other produce and contact their distributor or Sprouters Northwest, 253-872-0577, for additional information, the state said.
Salmonellosis is an acute bacterial infection that can cause diarrhea, fever and vomiting. Symptoms usually develop within one to five days after eating contaminated food.
WHO says E. coli strain responsible for European outbreak is new strain never detected before - Jan Klimkowski - 08-06-2011
Christer - thank you for your post #18.
Carsten Wiethoff Wrote:1. If it would be so clear and provable that this is a product from a biolab, a weapon, instead of an unintentional consequence of our way of agriculture, it could not fulfill the stated purpose. Instead the people would demand a ban of bioweapons and the head of the people responsible. Doubt and plausible denial is essential.
Carsten - are you aware of any MSM Science reporter having conducted the analysis performed by Mike Adams, and publishing or broadcasting it?
Indeed, I will go further. If any MSM reporter does run with the Adams story, I 99% guarantee that that MSM organ will come under huge governmental, and perhaps national security, pressure to either withdraw the piece or "balance" it with a further piece designed purely to demonstrate the "natural origins" of this E-coli strain.
The process described by Adams and needed to create this particular strain of E-coli does significantly increase the possibility that it was created in a CBW lab - perhaps a privatized deep cover version of Fort Detrick or Porton Down.
In addition, the localization of the outbreak suggests a single source, such as part of a vial of a bioweapon.
In short, the possibility that this E-coli outbreak represents the deliberate deployment of a bioweapon has increased with the new evidence. However, it is unlikely ever to be identified as a biological warfare agent by MSM.
As such, the rationale could be that the military-multinational-intelligence-complex (MMIC) wants to remind Germany how quickly its population can be unsettled and parts of its economy damaged if it messes with MMIC interests.
WHO says E. coli strain responsible for European outbreak is new strain never detected before - Peter Lemkin - 08-06-2011
Now its cucumbers again.....:what:
Answer: Just stop eating!
WHO says E. coli strain responsible for European outbreak is new strain never detected before - Peter Lemkin - 08-06-2011
Yes, good post there [18]. Especially liked:
Quote:But in either case -- no matter what you believe -- the simple truth is that the world is now facing a new era of global superbug strains of bacteria that can't be treated with any known pharmaceutical. They can all, of course, be readily killed with colloidal silver, which is exactly why the FDA and world health regulators have viciously attacked colloidal silver companies all these years: They can't have the public getting its hands on natural antibiotics that really work, you see. That would defeat the whole purpose of making everybody sick in the first place.
Quote: In fact, these strains of e.coli superbugs can be quite readily treated with a combination of natural full-spectrum antibiotics from plants such as garlic, ginger, onions and medicinal herbs. On top of that, probiotics can help balance the flora of the digestive tract and "crowd out" the deadly e.coli that might happen by. A healthy immune system and well-functioning digestive tract can fight off an e.coli superbug infection, but that's yet another fact the medical community doesn't want you to know. They much prefer you to remain a helpless victim lying in the hospital, waiting to die, with no options available to you. That's "modern medicine" for ya. They cause the problems that they claim to treat, and then they won't even treat you with anything that works in the first place.:mexican:
WHO says E. coli strain responsible for European outbreak is new strain never detected before - Carsten Wiethoff - 08-06-2011
Quote:But in either case -- no matter what you believe -- the simple truth is that the world is now facing a new era of global superbug strains of bacteria that can't be treated with any known pharmaceutical.Yes, I liked that too and it pretty much sums up the situation. It is completely irrelevant if we made this in a lab or in a hospital or in a cattle cage. It is there.
The point I wanted to stress is that we will most likely never know. Short of a confession by some plausible evildoer there is practically no way to distinguish between an accidental creation and release and an intentional one. I am sure that both types of events happened in the past and will happen in the future.
What may be different is our reaction to such an event, depending on what we believe in every specific case and in general.
So if we believe that this was intentional, should we change our eating habits, should we ban fresh food from our tables? Or just the contrary? And if we believe that this was shit happening (pun intended), will we be more careful in the future? Should we push for more natural bio food or for more effective disinfectants?
Everybody answers for himself.
WHO says E. coli strain responsible for European outbreak is new strain never detected before - Peter Lemkin - 08-06-2011
Carsten Wiethoff Wrote:Quote:But in either case -- no matter what you believe -- the simple truth is that the world is now facing a new era of global superbug strains of bacteria that can't be treated with any known pharmaceutical.Yes, I liked that too and it pretty much sums up the situation. It is completely irrelevant if we made this in a lab or in a hospital or in a cattle cage. It is there.
The point I wanted to stress is that we will most likely never know. Short of a confession by some plausible evildoer there is practically no way to distinguish between an accidental creation and release and an intentional one. I am sure that both types of events happened in the past and will happen in the future.
What may be different is our reaction to such an event, depending on what we believe in every specific case and in general.
So if we believe that this was intentional, should we change our eating habits, should we ban fresh food from our tables? Or just the contrary? And if we believe that this was shit happening (pun intended), will we be more careful in the future? Should we push for more natural bio food or for more effective disinfectants?
Everybody answers for himself.
Just as those in power started taking Cipro days before the 'terrorist' Anthrax attacks, I'd not be surprised that a secret antibiotic[s] that DO work on such superbugs exists - but they are not for you or me.....angryfire WE are the laboratory rats.
WHO says E. coli strain responsible for European outbreak is new strain never detected before - Jan Klimkowski - 08-06-2011
Carsten Wiethoff Wrote:It is completely irrelevant if we made this in a lab or in a hospital or in a cattle cage. It is there.
Carsten - with respect, I cannot agree.
I believe there is a fundamental difference between a killer e-coli strain emerging as a byproduct of Big & Dirty Farming, and being created in a biological warfare laboratory and deliberately released.
The first scenario is the consequence of greed and recklessness, and can - in principle - be prevented through clean farming practices.
The second scenario involves the use of science not to cure disease but to create doomsday weapons for use by those who consider themselves our superiors.
A belief in Eugenics is still the dirty secret of the elites.
Carsten Wiethoff Wrote:The point I wanted to stress is that we will most likely never know. Short of a confession by some plausible evildoer there is practically no way to distinguish between an accidental creation and release and an intentional one. I am sure that both types of events happened in the past and will happen in the future.
What may be different is our reaction to such an event, depending on what we believe in every specific case and in general.
(snip)
Everybody answers for himself.
This I can agree with.
One of the aims of a strategy of tension is to create cognitive dissonance in the hearts and minds of people.
And yes, we all go our own way.
WHO says E. coli strain responsible for European outbreak is new strain never detected before - Carsten Wiethoff - 09-06-2011
Jan Klimkowski Wrote:Jan, thank you for your differentiation. You are clearly correct that there is a fundamental moral difference in these two things even if the objective net result may be similar. And I am pretty certain you will be with me in saying that both exist and have to be resisted, brought to light and fought against in our own interest and that of future generations. I believe that is why we are all here.Carsten Wiethoff Wrote:It is completely irrelevant if we made this in a lab or in a hospital or in a cattle cage. It is there.
Carsten - with respect, I cannot agree.
I believe there is a fundamental difference between a killer e-coli strain emerging as a byproduct of Big & Dirty Farming, and being created in a biological warfare laboratory and deliberately released.
The first scenario is the consequence of greed and recklessness, and can - in principle - be prevented through clean farming practices.
The second scenario involves the use of science not to cure disease but to create doomsday weapons for use by those who consider themselves our superiors.
A belief in Eugenics is still the dirty secret of the elites.