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A NOBLE LIE, the Oklahoma bombing, MK-Ultra and False Flag terrorism.. - R.K. Locke - 31-10-2015
Interesting interview with Chris Emery wherein he mentions a few things I've never heard him talk about before:
http://tkelly6785757.podomatic.com/entry/2015-10-26T15_39_03-07_00
Quite a lot of old ground is covered but this is still well worth a listen.
A NOBLE LIE, the Oklahoma bombing, MK-Ultra and False Flag terrorism.. - Peter Lemkin - 31-10-2015
R.K. Locke Wrote:Interesting interview with Chris Emery wherein he mentions a few things I've never heard him talk about before:
http://tkelly6785757.podomatic.com/entry/2015-10-26T15_39_03-07_00
Quite a lot of old ground is covered but this is still well worth a listen.
That's a hell of a good interview, with lots of great information. Their film is well worth the watch too! Had OKC been solved, the first WTC bombing wouldn't have happened and had that not happened or been solved, 911 would not have happened. Sadly, because for most of society in the USA 911 is still unsolved [if the official story not sitting comfortably], what they have planned next will likely succeed to. They are using a ratchet mechanism...ratcheting up to a full-blown fascist police state. Those of you who only look at how many shooters there were in Dallas, and where they were, without seeing the consequences we now face due to that and so much to follow not being solved....you are not part of the solution. It is all connected/interconnected. If you don't get that, then you don't 'get' deep political action and what needs to be done to expose and stop it. This is not a 'who done it' or 'how they done it' GAME - this is real!
A NOBLE LIE, the Oklahoma bombing, MK-Ultra and False Flag terrorism.. - Lauren Johnson - 31-10-2015
Quote:Those of you who only look at how many shooters there were in Dallas, and where they were, without seeing the consequences we now face due to that and so much to follow not being solved....you are not part of the solution. It is all connected/interconnected. If you don't get that, then you don't 'get' deep political action and what needs to be done to expose and stop it. This is not a 'who done it' or 'how they done it' GAME - this is real!
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A NOBLE LIE, the Oklahoma bombing, MK-Ultra and False Flag terrorism.. - Michael Barwell - 31-10-2015
Peter Lemkin Wrote:They are using a ratchet mechanism...ratcheting up to a full-blown fascist police state.
I can attest to that. I call it frog boiling (er, as of about 2minutes ago...):
[size=12]http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/new-lords-revolt-looms-over-plans-to-allow-police-to-view-everyones-internet-browsing-history-a6715731.html - at the whim of politicians, and whilst sidelining the judiciary. The law is good - that's why they're being left standing.
http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2015/oct/30/fbi-surveillance-planes-ferguson-baltimore-cameras - FBI planes that flew over police protests had sophisticated surveillance cameras. In Durham, the police have a facial recognition database (and doubtless elsewhere too); drip drip drip.
Theresa May said "If you've done nothing wrong, you've nothing to fear", but that's bullshit - they make it up as part of a grand strategy to elevate themselves to 'hero' status, and to justify the expense and the intrusions/ human rights pisstakes, and to pull the wool over ppl's eyes whilst afearing them for purpose.
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A NOBLE LIE, the Oklahoma bombing, MK-Ultra and False Flag terrorism.. - Paul Rigby - 31-10-2015
Peter Lemkin Wrote:R.K. Locke Wrote:Interesting interview with Chris Emery wherein he mentions a few things I've never heard him talk about before:
http://tkelly6785757.podomatic.com/entry/2015-10-26T15_39_03-07_00
Quite a lot of old ground is covered but this is still well worth a listen.
That's a hell of a good interview, with lots of great information.
Seconded. It's a richly rewarding listen.
God help America.
A NOBLE LIE, the Oklahoma bombing, MK-Ultra and False Flag terrorism.. - Drew Phipps - 01-11-2015
Fy that audio won't play more than a minute or so before locking up.
A NOBLE LIE, the Oklahoma bombing, MK-Ultra and False Flag terrorism.. - R.K. Locke - 01-11-2015
Lauren Johnson Wrote:Quote:Those of you who only look at how many shooters there were in Dallas, and where they were, without seeing the consequences we now face due to that and so much to follow not being solved....you are not part of the solution. It is all connected/interconnected. If you don't get that, then you don't 'get' deep political action and what needs to be done to expose and stop it. This is not a 'who done it' or 'how they done it' GAME - this is real!
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I totally agree with this. It's incredible to me that there are JFK researchers out there who, for example, take no interest in 9/11, or actually believe the government's version of events. It's a bizarre situation. They will spend hours debating "Oswald in the doorway" but appear to have nothing worthwhile to say about current geopolitics. How do you explain something like that?
A NOBLE LIE, the Oklahoma bombing, MK-Ultra and False Flag terrorism.. - R.K. Locke - 01-11-2015
Drew Phipps Wrote:Fy that audio won't play more than a minute or so before locking up.
I downloaded it and listened on my iPod. Worked fine that way. ::thumbsup::
A NOBLE LIE, the Oklahoma bombing, MK-Ultra and False Flag terrorism.. - Peter Lemkin - 02-11-2015
R.K. Locke Wrote:Lauren Johnson Wrote:<br>Quote:<font color="#333333">Those of you who only look at how many shooters there were in Dallas, and where they were, without seeing the consequences we now face due to that and so much to follow not being solved....you are not part of the solution. It is all connected/interconnected. If you don't get that, then you don't 'get' deep political action and what needs to be done to expose and stop it. This is not a 'who done it' or 'how they done it' GAME - this is real!</font><br>
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I totally agree with this. It's incredible to me that there are JFK researchers out there who, for example, take no interest in 9/11, or actually believe the government's version of events. It's a bizarre situation. They will spend hours debating "Oswald in the doorway" but appear to have nothing worthwhile to say about current geopolitics. How do you explain something like that?
Yes, there are many who find it only an intellectual game to be solved and like solving it and debating the solutions. They divorce themselves from the historical and current reality of the consequences, and refuse too often to look at the totality of the event and worse, the long, long connected string of events that in its modern iteration goes from WW2 to tomorrow and beyond. For some it is a naivete about history; for others it is a blindness to where the USA [and the World] 'are' today and how our freedoms and rights, rule of law, system of government, democracy have been methodically weakened to where today there is nothing left but a propaganda figleaf. Yes, solving this or that deep political event is interesting in and of itself - and I enjoy that challenge myself; but to not put it into context of what it did to not only the immediate target[s] is really missing the point. No assassination nor 'terror action' was just to kill a person or blow up a building and those in it. History shows clearly such actions are more to wrestle control from the People to those who were behind these actions. I think that America 'died' quite a lot on 11/22/63 along with JFK; and died some more with OKC, WTC-first false flag, 911, Antrax unPatriot Act, NDAA, and the hundreds of other covert and overt deep political actions against us I could mention. OK, so there more than one shooter at Dallas, and Oswald was not one of them, in fact there were two Oswalds and both were in the intel world of special operations....what does that say about our polity?! Over two million died in Vietnam; the elected President was assassinated, and the assassination covered-up by organs of the State; the MIC+ grew much stronger; COG grew stronger; they were emboldened to then kill MLK and RFK [and hundreds of others - thousands in fact]! Watergate, Iran-Contra, OKC, WTC-first time, 911, 7-7, government overthrows, black ops, and aggressive wars up the yazoo [don't forget Grenada was about to invade and destroy the USA!] - and look what we have - a police state, permanent wars, 100% electronic surveillance, no freedoms, no economy (unemployment rate is now 33-35% and most are struggling to survive), rich getting richer and everyone else sinking, propaganda for 'media', lies from the government, voting for pre-selected puppets, controlled congress and supreme court, puppet presidents, unfair judicial system, Gestapo-like police and intelligence agencies, military ready to attack the public at home as well as endlessly attacking non-aggressive nations abroad. There is a direct connection between the 'details' of (pick any Deep Political Event you like) and where we are now. Please wake up. Please take action. Yes, it does potentially put one at slight risk - but you and we are all now deeply at risk already!...and in numbers there is some safety and strength. If you can see the truth, but do nothing about it other than only play intellectual games with it, or leave it for 'others' to do something about...you have already given up your participation in and franchise in democracy - and are only a serf. Yes, one has to start by analyzing the 'details', but while you were examining the 'trees' the 'forest' has burnt down. If you're not part of the solution, you're sadly still part of the problem - even if passively. Remember the Niemoller (1892-1984) statement,
Quote:"In Germany they first came for the Socialists,
and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Socialist.
Then they came for the Jews,
and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Jew.
Then they came for the trade unionists,
and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a trade unionist.
Then they came for the Catholics,
and I didn't speak up because I was a Protestant.
Then they came for me
and by that time no one was left to speak up.
THEY are already 'coming' for us all now.....think, analyze, speak, but ACT...before it is too late! (and what I say applies in most all countries, not just the USA where it is so very obvious).
A NOBLE LIE, the Oklahoma bombing, MK-Ultra and False Flag terrorism.. - David Guyatt - 02-11-2015
Nicely said, Pete.