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John Armstrong's Harvey and Lee - David Josephs - 04-10-2013
http://www.maryferrell.org/mffweb/archive/viewer/showDoc.do?docId=10478&relPageId=10
"Collateral investigation....POSTIVIELY placed him (OSWALD) in Dallas... the evening of 11/21/63."
Anyone HAVE or SEEN this "collateral investigation"?
DJ
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John Armstrong's Harvey and Lee - Jim Hargrove - 05-10-2013
David Josephs Wrote:The FBI - WCD 13 - quotes Pricilla's statement to the FBI: Which is simply another Brick in the wall of references to OSWALD being in FORMOSA in Sept/Oct 1958... alos included are JA exhibits showing his return from Ping-Tung, his Summary showing he went to Ping Tung and the Medical records showing he was treated in Japan during the same time...
DJ
Great find on the PJM statement! Priscilla always seemed so eager to help the government's case against LHO: according to Marina, she basically wrote Marina's book... and even more famously she just happened to be hanging around when the much-needed Mexico City bus ticket was "found." (Jim DiEugenio has a detailed article on her at: http://www.ctka.net/pjm.html.)
No doubt she would be appalled to learn that she has been inadvertently helpful offering evidence for John Armstrong's case. The other example that comes to mind is her published report from the Moscow interview that the Russian-speaking Oswald told her his family moved to North Dakota. (According to John McAdams, Priscilla later claimed she had mis-read her notes and read N.O. as N.D. Pretty good excuse, except JA recalls that her handwritten notes were published in the FBI "Series 2" microfilm from UMI, and that "North Dakota" was spelled out.)
Jim
John Armstrong's Harvey and Lee - David Josephs - 07-10-2013
Seems to me if the FBI reports that LEE Oswald was in Dallas on thursday night... Don't they need to explain who Wesley drove home thurswday after work and back friday morning... ?? :
hock::and obviously if they are pulling this information from an FBI report of a collateral investigation... SOMEONE sees LEE in Dallas Thursday night... while HARVEY is playing with his kids...
Any assistence in finding this report would be appreciated
DJ
David Josephs Wrote:http://www.maryferrell.org/mffweb/archive/viewer/showDoc.do?docId=10478&relPageId=10
"Collateral investigation....POSTIVIELY placed him (OSWALD) in Dallas... the evening of 11/21/63."
Anyone HAVE or SEEN this "collateral investigation"?
DJ
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John Armstrong's Harvey and Lee - Tracy Riddle - 07-10-2013
Irving is only about 6 to 8 miles from downtown Dallas. It's certainly considered a suburb of Dallas, or in the "Dallas area."
John Armstrong's Harvey and Lee - Gordon Gray - 07-10-2013
Tracy Riddle Wrote:Irving is only about 6 to 8 miles from downtown Dallas. It's certainly considered a suburb of Dallas, or in the "Dallas area."It's certainly more Dallas than San Antonio. No smoking gun here.
John Armstrong's Harvey and Lee - David Josephs - 07-10-2013
Ruth and Wesley corroborate the time of LHO arriving in Irving at about 5:15-5:30.
At no time was LHO in DALLAS that evening, he went straight home with Wesley.
All I am asking is from what SOURCE would this FBI agent write a declarative statement: "Oswald was POSITIVELY PLACED IN DALLAS the evening of the 21st..."
and an investigation is referenced.
I think there's a theory in your responses somewhere, what it is I'm not really sure - yet the FBI or DPD or someone confirms his POSITIVELY being in Dallas... and that he returns home AFTER this ??
Tracy, Gordon... What collateral investigation was done prior to this report that would put Oswald in Dallas the evening of the 21st?
and please reconclide the testimony that supports LHO leaving DALLAS at 4:40 and arriving home before 5:30 with this other report placing OSWALD in DALLAS...
If I introduce this report in court - does it not strongly suggest that someone else was in DALLAS in the evening of 11/21 that the FBI (or someone) thought was Oswald ??
Enough so to state POSITIVELY
If this is LEE with Ruby and Tippit... (we need to find this investigation's report)
DJ
John Armstrong's Harvey and Lee - Tracy Riddle - 07-10-2013
David, the report says he was "in the Dallas area." To use a different example, Pasadena, Compton, Beverly Hills and El Monte are all "in the Los Angeles area," roughly the same distance as Irving is from downtown Dallas.
John Armstrong's Harvey and Lee - David Josephs - 07-10-2013
Tracy Riddle Wrote:David, the report says he was "in the Dallas area." To use a different example, Pasadena, Compton, Beverly Hills and El Monte are all "in the Los Angeles area," roughly the same distance as Irving is from downtown Dallas.
Fair enough Tracy...
maybe just wishful thinking then... "the Dallas Area" is an example of FBI selective vagueness while there are other areas we get specifics where they are useless.
The FBI knew EXACTLY where he was Thursday night... yet there were corroborated reports of him being elsewhere.
Those reports - according to the FBI - were wrong... he wasn't "REGISTERED" elsewhere so he couldn't have been elsewhere
Now WHERE have we heard THAT before ...
::pullhairout::
ps - weren't they sure he was in Irving... ??
John Armstrong's Harvey and Lee - Jim Hargrove - 07-10-2013
Len Osanic's 94-minute interview conducted Oct. 3 with John Armstrong and me (Black Op Radio # 650) is here:
http://www.blackopradio.com/archives2013.html
Also interviewed on the same show are Cyril Wecht and John Kelin. Pretty decent company, eh?
Jim
John Armstrong's Harvey and Lee - David Josephs - 11-10-2013
When LEE was 17 (not 18 according to the USMC) he was shot by his own pistol...
Not only is the man Ruby killed 2 inches shorter and 30 lbs lighter... there are no scars from what happened to LEE in the Marines in Japan.
Here is the USMC record of said injury:
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I suggest you try to find a photo of the arrested Oswald's left elbow... other than his arrest photo at DPD... I haven't found any.
But it is more than clear enough to show there are NO SCARS on his elbow as Dr Rose detailed in the autopsy.
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(nor are there any wounds that can be assocaited with the ENTRANCE WOUND from RUBY's GUN)
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