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Breaking: Explosion Reported at Boston Marathon's Finish Line - David Guyatt - 25-04-2013
Well, well, well, a mainstream British newspaper breaking ranks it seems. It looks like ranks are also being broken in US law enforcement too.
The official story lays in tatters.
Quote:Now officials claim Boston bombing suspect was NOT armed in boat showdown - despite police account of firefight and him 'shooting himself'
Officials now claim that Dzhokhar Tsarnaev was unarmed as he hid in boat in Watertown
Contradicts Boston Police Commissioner's account of hour-long firefight with Tsarnaev
New York Times said M4 rifle had been found on boat
Police sources suggested Tsarnaev shot himself onboard
By ASSOCIATED PRESS and DAILY MAIL REPORTER
PUBLISHED: 02:53, 25 April 2013 | UPDATED: 04:48, 25 April 2013
Two unnamed U.S. officials have told the Associated Press that the surviving suspect in the Boston bombings was unarmed when police captured him hiding inside a boat in a neighborhood back yard.
The report contradicts the Boston police department's own account of Dzhokar Tsarnaev's capture on Friday - after commissioner Ed Davies described a firefight between him and officers before the terror suspect was captured.
The New York Times also said an M4 rifle had been found on the boat - another claim contradicted by the latest revelations.
Officers had originally said they had exchanged gunfire with Tsarnaev for more than one hour Friday evening before they were able to subdue him.
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Hidden: Authorities say that Boston Marathon bombing suspect Dzhokhar Tsarnaev was not armed as he hid in this boat in a Watertown, Massachusetts backyard
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Hideout: Dzhokhar was found hiding in this boat in Watertown on Friday following a massive manhunt
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Apprehended: Dzhokhar is searched and given medical attention after he is found hiding on Friday evening
It also contradicts many media accounts of Tsarnaev's final moments of freedom.
The New York Times reported that an M-4 carbine rifle - similar to the weapon used by American troops fighting in Afghanistan - was found aboard the boat and that officials had recovered two handguns and a bb gun used by the two brothers.
The throat wound sustained by Tsaernev was also said by numerous law enforcement sources to be self inflicted.
Sources told Newsday that Tsarnaev's bullet wound looked to be self-inflicted, due to the location of Tsarnaev's wound and the trajectory of the bullet.
And Reuters reported that the suspect was shot through the mouth by a round that exited through his neck.
Dozens of bullet holes were seen on the exterior of the boat in photos taken shortly after the final standoff in the Watertown backyard.
The officials told the AP that say investigators only recovered a 9 mm handgun believed to have been used by Tsarnaev's brother, Tamerlan, from the site of a gun battle Thursday night, which injured a Massachusetts Bay Transportation Authority officer.
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Trawl: On Monday, a police forensics team examined the boat where Dzhokhar was found hiding
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Scene: He was found cowering in the boat after its owner realized its straps had moved on Friday evening
Dzhokhar was believed to have been shot before he escaped.
The officials tell The Associated Press that no gun was found in the boat.
Investigators have said the brothers appeared to have been radicalized through jihadist materials on the Internet and have found no evidence tying them to a terrorist group.
Dzhokhar told the FBI that they were angry about the U.S. wars in Afghanistan and Iraq and the killing of Muslims there, officials said.
How much of those conversations will end up in court is unclear.
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Rip: An FBI officer stands in front of the boat where Dzhokhar Tsarnaev, the surviving suspect in the Boston Marathon bombings, was hiding inside
The FBI normally tells suspects they have the right to remain silent before questioning them so all their statements can be used against them.
Under pressure from Congress, however, the Department of Justice has said investigators may wait until they have gathered intelligence about other threats before reading those rights in terrorism cases.
The American Civil Liberties Union has expressed concern about that.
Regardless, investigators have found pieces of remote-control equipment among the debris and were analyzing them, officials said.
One official described the detonator as 'close-controlled,' meaning it had to be triggered within several blocks of the bombs.
Breaking: Explosion Reported at Boston Marathon's Finish Line - Peter Lemkin - 25-04-2013
I just heard that they [whoever they are] have admitted that the 19 year-old was in the boat WITHOUT any weapon.....so we were lied to about the hour-long gunbattle and if the boat was like swiss cheese they were trying to exterminate him. Also, where did the throat wound come from and the story about an attempted suicide [put forward officially; then discounted officially a few days later]. Fishy!? This caper stinks of disinformation and false flag!
The list of lies and untruths exceeds 100% by my count.
Breaking: Explosion Reported at Boston Marathon's Finish Line - Magda Hassan - 25-04-2013
Maybe or maybe not reliable. Certainly no love lost between Russia and Georgia but the Russian authorities have repeatedly told the US authorities about the older brother and nothing was done. A hands off policy. It is also picked up by other media in the area including Georgia. Of course it is denied by the foundation but then it would wouldn't it? More of the Jamestown Foundation here.
Quote:Tamerlane Tsarnaev. Photo: REUTERS / Julia Malakie / The Sun of Lowell, Mass. / Handout
At the disposal of "Izvestia" has documents Counterintelligence Department Ministry of Internal Affairs of Georgia, confirming that the Georgian organization "Fund of Caucasus", which cooperates with the U.S. non-profit organization "Jamestown" (the board of directors of NGOs previously entered one of the ideologists of U.S. foreign policy, Zbigniew Brzezinski), was engaged in recruiting residents North Caucasus to work in the interests of the United States and Georgia.
According to the reports of Colonel Chief Directorate Counterintelligence Department Ministry of Internal Affairs of Georgia Gregory Chanturia to the Minister of Internal Affairs Irakli Garibashvili, "Caucasian fund" in cooperation with the Foundation "Jamestown" in the summer of 2012 conducted workshops and seminars for young people of the Caucasus, including its Russian part. Some of them attended Tsarnaev Tamerlane, who was in Russia from January to July 2012.
"Caucasian fund" writes Tchanturia was established November 7, 2008, just after the Georgian-Ossetian conflict, "to control the processes taking place in the North Caucasus region." Accordingly, the Department of the Interior Ministry counterintelligence case was brought intelligence operations called "DTV". Main purpose is to recruit young people and intellectuals of the North Caucasus to enhance instability and extremism in the southern regions of Russia.
"In order to finance the organization was determined monthly amount of $ 33 million lari (660 thousand). Since the establishment of the organization before 1 January 2013 the amount allocated in the end amounted to 4.058 million GEL (81.1 million), "- wrote in a report Tchanturia.
The documents referred to, and the work of the "Caucasian fund" in the three border areas of Azerbaijan and Dagestan - Balacan, Zakatalsky and Kakh.
In addition, Colonel counterintelligence Tbilisi reports that security forces in Chechnya through Georgia "Caucasian fund" and fund "Jamestown" are sympathetic to the Georgian people, who are invited to various events in the republic under the innocent pretexts. In these seminars, the Russians are recruiting and preparing acts of terrorism.
Deputy head of the NGO "Agency of the socio-political initiatives" Tatiev Iles, who oversees the North Caucasus Federal District, said that the activities of the "Caucasian fund" raises too many questions.
- Where in Georgia, which exists on the loans, the extra money for some funds? - Ask the expert. - I do not exclude that this fund is affiliated with the Department of State in the North Caucasus.
The head of the New York office of the Institute for Democracy and Cooperation Andranik Migranyan, who learned about the "Caucasian fund" from the "News", believes that the activities of the organization, as it is depicted in the documents that fits into the policy of the Georgian authorities.
- Saakashvili administration is conducting an overt anti-Russian line - says the analyst.
Director General of the National Strategy Council Valery Hamsters argues that exaggerated the force of external enemy in Georgia may be beneficial to the management of the North Caucasian republics.
- I think the danger is exaggerated Georgian factor - the expert believes. - Personally, I have no doubt that Georgia only deals with the introduction of its spies and recruit Russian citizens.
A member of the security committee Anatoly Elected even promised according to their ability to connect to the investigation of the "Caucasian fund."
- Documents of which you speak, like the truth. Real friendly moves by Georgia and the U.S., we do not see, their goal is to make Russian state, which can be controlled, - the Elected.
Jamestown Foundation has repeatedly demonstrated its interest in Georgia and the state of affairs in Russia's North Caucasus. In 2007, the Foundation held a seminar "The Future of Ingushetia," which was attended by former fighters of Aslan Maskhadov.
In March 2010, the Jamestown Foundation asked the IOC to not hold the Olympic Games in Sochi, citing the tragic events of the Caucasian War of XIX century.
In 2011, political scientists Fund predicted that Georgia in the coming year will take a leading role in the Caucasus and Russia will be serious competition as a "regional leader".
The Russian Foreign Ministry has repeatedly responded to the ongoing policy of the fund, handing over a protest note to U.S. in Moscow.
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Breaking: Explosion Reported at Boston Marathon's Finish Line - Dawn Meredith - 25-04-2013
Of course everyone here "knows" that the brothers had to have been financed by the ptb (FBI? CIA?) but MSM, noticing the same issue -("where didi the money come from ?") -has their own explanation: Drug dealing. Just make shit up. Works all the time and the sheeple will begin repeating it.
Good to see one mainstream source breaking ranks.
Dawn
Breaking: Explosion Reported at Boston Marathon's Finish Line - Magda Hassan - 25-04-2013
Dawn Meredith Wrote:Of course everyone here "knows" that the brothers had to have been financed by the ptb (FBI? CIA?) but MSM, noticing the same issue -("where didi the money come from ?") -has their own explanation: Drug dealing. Just make shit up. Works all the time and the sheeple will begin repeating it.I've seen it mentioned that the older brother was on......welfare
Good to see one mainstream source breaking ranks.
Dawn
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Breaking: Explosion Reported at Boston Marathon's Finish Line - Anthony Thorne - 25-04-2013
Some more Xymphora posts on the continuing Boston cover-up, with lots of commentary and links.
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http://xymphora.blogspot.com.au/2013/04/respectable-people-have-nothing-to-say.html
'RESPECTABLE' PEOPLE HAVE NOTHING TO SAY ABOUT ANY OF THIS
"The 11 Most Mystifying Things the Tsarnaev Brothers Did"
"Something's Rotten in Boston - Who's Investigating the FBI Investigators?":
"Then there's the money thing. We're told that Tamerlan had dropped out of community college because of money problems, right? Community college? That costs almost nothing to attend. That's the whole point of community colleges: everyone can afford them. And he was reportedly only going part-time! But then, the two brothers are driving around in a Mercedes and wearing fancy clothes?
We're talking about two brothers, both in school, with a father who was ill and living in Dagestan, who had worked as a curbside mechanic while in the US, and a mother who had a home beauty salon business, and these lads somehow were stylish dressers and drove around in an expensive car -- expensive to buy even used, and terribly expensive to maintain, too.
Where did all that money come from? We don't know. Tamerlan was reportedly working at things like delivering pizza during that period This while living with his wife and caring at home for their young daughter, now three. Tamerlan's wife was said to be supporting the struggling family by working "60-80 hours a week" as a home health care aide, one of the lowest-paying jobs you can find, often paying less than minimum wage."
and:We're talking about two brothers, both in school, with a father who was ill and living in Dagestan, who had worked as a curbside mechanic while in the US, and a mother who had a home beauty salon business, and these lads somehow were stylish dressers and drove around in an expensive car -- expensive to buy even used, and terribly expensive to maintain, too.
Where did all that money come from? We don't know. Tamerlan was reportedly working at things like delivering pizza during that period This while living with his wife and caring at home for their young daughter, now three. Tamerlan's wife was said to be supporting the struggling family by working "60-80 hours a week" as a home health care aide, one of the lowest-paying jobs you can find, often paying less than minimum wage."
"And then there's a jarring interview on a Boston-area radio call-in program called the Dennis & Callahan Morning Show from a woman named "Linda," who says she witnessed the shootout between the two brothers and police in which Tamerlan was killed. The woman, who says she was staying over at her boyfriend's house on Watertown's Dexter Street, claims they "rushed to the front" of the house when they heard the commotion and "saw the suspect get hit by a Police SUV, and then after he was hit, get shot multiple times." Clarifying, under questioning from the radio host, she says he was hit first by the police, and then adds, "from what we saw early this morning I'd be hard pressed to think he was actually pronounced dead at the hospital, I mean from the injuries that he incurred in the street I would say he was probably dead when he was put in the ambulance." She goes on to suggest that Tamerlan may have been executed by police: "I just remember him get shot multiple times." Of course, "Linda" could be a complete fake, but her story, completely at odds with the official one that has a ruthless and uncaring Dzhokhar running over his own brother in the firefight, dragging him 30 feet down the road before escaping himself from a police cordon on foot."
and:"Dzhokhar himself, the 19-year-old younger brother of Tamerlan, currently being held under tight security in Boston's Beth Israel Hospital where he is in serious condition with two bullet wounds and is being reportedly questioned by the FBI, is lucky to be alive at all. When he was discovered, weakened from blood loss, hiding inside a trailer-mounted pleasure boat in a retired New England Telephone employee's driveway, police called to the scene by the owner, David Henneberry, initially pumped bullets into the boat trying to kill him, until they were told to stop firing by a supervisor. It is not known whether the bullet that hit Dzhokhar's neck, producing a wound which now reportedly prevents him from talking, was one of those fired by police at that time."
"Boston frames surveillance debate" "Peter King, again, touts Kelly and calls for a focus on Muslims in America" (King hasnothing against terrorism, just Muslims) "Bloomberg Says Interpretation of Constitution Will Have to Change' After Boston Bombing"...............
http://xymphora.blogspot.com.au/2013/04/tamerlans-imaginary-friend.html
TAMERLAN'S IMAGINARY FRIEND
Get ready for a whole lot of manufactured back-story: "Boston Bombing Suspect Tamerlan Tsarnaev Influenced ByMysterious Radical" This entire story still requires considerable propping up just to get over the guffaw threshold. Ruslan continues to earn his keep.
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http://xymphora.blogspot.com.au/2013/04/missing-obvious-explanation.html
MISSING THE OBVIOUS EXPLANATION
"The Tsarnaev Family: More And More Evidence Of Asylum Fraud" The racist right sees an opportunity on the immigration reform front, but misses the more obvious American intelligence connections. Reminds me of all those American visas handed out in Saudi Arabia in the early months of this millennium.
I note that Steve Sailer, who usually hides the racism behind a Pioneer-Fund-style academic facade, is foaming at the mouth in attacks on Chechens.
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http://xymphora.blogspot.com.au/2013/04/two-murders-in-boston.html
LOOSE ENDS
American authorities need to explain how the brothers had so much money and no visible means of support: "Drugs sales may have financed Boston terror plot" 'May have' - no real evidence, but they need an explanation other than the CIA.
Also a complete reversal of their lies on the shootout:
"Also, two U.S. officials say Dzhokhar Tsarnaev, the surviving suspect, was unarmed when police captured him hiding inside a boat in a neighborhood back yard. Authorities originally said they had exchanged gunfire with Dzhokhar for more than one hour Friday evening before they were able to subdue him."
In actual fact, they just kept shooting at Dzhokhar for more than an hour, with no return fire ("Officials: Boston suspect had no firearm when barrage of bullets hit hiding place"), and it is completely clear he wasn't supposed to survive. Remember, they also shot Tamerlan to death, and made up a really tall tale that he died due to being run over by Dzhokhar.
By the way, wasn't every single police action by the Boston police and FBI on this matter a complete and utter fuck-up?
Intelligence-wise though, they are still champs: "CIA pushed to add Boston bomber to terror watch list" If you read this carefully, you can see how the CIA and FBI can play these 'terrorist lists' like a violin to get their assets in and out of the country and then set them up as patsies.
Another list of discrepancies: "Orwell does America":
"What the day-long delay in Dzhokhar's arrest indeed made possible was to turn Watertown into a monster dry run for urban martial law - euphemized as ''lockdown'' - in a very near future.
As total militarization of civilian life goes - featuring, for instance, Homeland Security running amok with hundreds of armored vehicles - this was a major success. Meanwhile, on the ''legal'' front, the White House and the Justice Department are firmly on track to finally suppress the Miranda warning; that went into effect already two years ago, when an Obama secret executive order ruled the Miranda warning would not apply to suspected terrorists.
Dzhokhar is a ''suspected'' terrorist - now charged with using and conspiring to use a weapon of mass destruction, yet already convicted by corporate media. Welcome to Police State USA - where at least everyone still has the right to go out shopping. For now."
As total militarization of civilian life goes - featuring, for instance, Homeland Security running amok with hundreds of armored vehicles - this was a major success. Meanwhile, on the ''legal'' front, the White House and the Justice Department are firmly on track to finally suppress the Miranda warning; that went into effect already two years ago, when an Obama secret executive order ruled the Miranda warning would not apply to suspected terrorists.
Dzhokhar is a ''suspected'' terrorist - now charged with using and conspiring to use a weapon of mass destruction, yet already convicted by corporate media. Welcome to Police State USA - where at least everyone still has the right to go out shopping. For now."
Breaking: Explosion Reported at Boston Marathon's Finish Line - Magda Hassan - 25-04-2013
Cue Twilight Zone music:
Quote:Following the Boston Marathon bombing last Monday in which pressure cookers
were used for the explosion, the cookware giant has decided to temporarilystop selling the items in their Massachusetts stores."It's a temporary thing out of respect," said Kent, who is the StoreManager of the Williams-Sonoma at the Natick Mall. He referred Patch tocorporate for further questions. Williams-Sonomaalso has a local branch atLegacy Place in Dedham.Pressure cookers will still be available on the Williams-Sonoma website. What's next, a self-imposed ban on the sale of backwards baseball caps?
Breaking: Explosion Reported at Boston Marathon's Finish Line - Albert Doyle - 25-04-2013
How do you explain to people who gather in jingo flag-waving crowds in the street that the quickest way to solving this matter would be to treat the CIA and FBI corruption and abuse of authority that caused it?
Breaking: Explosion Reported at Boston Marathon's Finish Line - Peter Lemkin - 25-04-2013
Boston Bombing: Was Tamerlan Tsarnaev a CIA Asset They Cashed In?
Posted on April 25, 2013 by willyloman
by Scott Creighton
We know that Tamerlan's uncle Ruslan Tsarni was a Big Oil exec with ties to the CIA. He had been a contractor for them from 1996-1998 via USAID.
We also know that the CIA is funding the Chechen separatists/terrorists much like they are doing in Syria and did recently in Libya. Same for Yugoslavia some time ago and Nicaragua before that.
We know that Tamerlan was fingered by the Russians back in 2011 for being involved with these CIA backed terrorists and the FBI "checked him' and of course, once they found out he was a CIA asset, they cleared him.
But he was put on the terrorist watchlist anyway.
Somehow, he was still able to board a flight out of the country back to his native soil and he stay there from Jan. 2012 thru July of 2012.
While he was there, it is reported, he attended a conference sponsored by the Fund of Caucasus, a "pro-democracy" NGO in Georgia and Russia.
It's claimed he was "radicalized" by our CIA linked terrorists during that time.
His mother, father and even the Big Oil/CIA linked uncle admit that Tamerlan had been approached and was being "mentored" by a mysterious Muslim convert named "Misha" for the past few years.
Was Tamerlan an asset being groomed to return to his home and help neoliberalize it? Was he the next "Screwball" character or is that role going to be played by his multimillionaire uncle? Did they cash him in along with his brother in order to advance their "greater good" agenda? Did their own uncle sign-off on it?
His uncle is definitely deeply involved in the efforts to bring back the good-old Yeltsin days of plunder in Russia. He is directly linked to several oligarchs who are under investigation and it would now appear that Tamerlan may have been following in his footsteps.
That is not to say that Tamerlan knew about the bombings that were about to happen when he went down to meet someone at the Back Bay Social Club as I showed in an earlier article.
What they do in black ops like this one is set the patsies in the proper place so they are on scene. They did it with Oswald. They did it with their 19 hijackers. And it would seem they did it with Tamerlan and his brother.
In cases like these, they do not entrust the op to the patsies. Most of the time, they aren't qualified to do the job. Oswald could not have been trusted to make such a magical shot on the president from that window and if he failed, Kennedy would surely have upped his security. They picked 3 professional assassins for the job and triangulated the position for optimal efficiency.
In the case of 9/11, the patsies could hardly fly. They were not the sort to hinge the entire New American Century on their skills and commitment so instead, they were simply put in place to serve as a plausible team of hijackers when in fact the planes were hijacked by remote control and flown by highly skilled remote pilots.
In this case, they didn't want to trust the op to a 26 year old with a wife and kid and his 19 year old dumbass brother so they simply put them in the right place at the wrong time and let the professionals take care of the rest.
That's how these ops work. Put the dupes in place and let the professionals do their work.
These connections cannot be ignored. Nor can the fact that their official story is starting to fall apart at the seams. Many people are asking questions about this and many disinfo agents are working hard to send people down the wrong path.
But this seems very clear to me at this point: they cashed in an asset but they didn't anticipate Russia would disclose as much information about him as they have. That may be the fatal flaw to their most recent mass casualty event in their ongoing American Gladio campaign. We will wait and see.
Breaking: Explosion Reported at Boston Marathon's Finish Line - Dawn Meredith - 25-04-2013
Magda Hassan Wrote:Dawn Meredith Wrote:Of course everyone here "knows" that the brothers had to have been financed by the ptb (FBI? CIA?) but MSM, noticing the same issue -("where didi the money come from ?") -has their own explanation: Drug dealing. Just make shit up. Works all the time and the sheeple will begin repeating it.I've seen it mentioned that the older brother was on......welfare
Good to see one mainstream source breaking ranks.
Dawn
Ya that's in the news too. But the talking heads are wondering how he financed six months in Russia.
Not sure how the family qualified for welfare as the wife works many hours. You have to be truly indigent to
qualify for the small pittance you receive. I have a 14 year old client who is living with her grandmother
(as the mother likes her drugs and assaultive bf better) and she gets $170.00 a month. PLus food stamps.
She also works her butt to the bone cleaning rooms in a cheap motel for $600.00 a month.
So this alleged welfare won't cover bus fare let alone plane fare to Russia.
But the media is not good at this stuff.....Their CIA corporate bosses see to that.