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Thousands evacuate as Fukishima nuclear emergency is declared - Peter Lemkin - 18-10-2015 Computer models of spread of radioactive Cesium in the Pacific at two specific dates. I.e. eventually lots of radioactive Cesium will pollute the entire North American Coast and ALL of the Pacific Ocean...eventually moving into the other oceans and through the food chain to all animals and plants. Entire model can be see here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3l8TT1dv-PM The half-life of Cs-137 is 30.7 years, so after 30.7 years half of it will still be around [and very well mixed into the Global environment]. It is NOT the only dangerous radioactive released from Fukishima, but only one of MANY...some with half-lives measured in hundreds, thousands, and hundreds of thousands of years. Cs-137 is more dangerous than many to higher organisms, as it gets incorporated into bones and then irradiates the body from the bones and cartilage. Enjoy! Thousands evacuate as Fukishima nuclear emergency is declared - David Guyatt - 18-10-2015 Peter Lemkin Wrote:Computer models of spread of radioactive Cesium in the Pacific at two specific dates. I.e. eventually lots of radioactive Cesium will pollute the entire North American Coast and ALL of the Pacific Ocean...eventually moving into the other oceans and through the food chain to all animals and plants. Oh fuck.. Thousands evacuate as Fukishima nuclear emergency is declared - Magda Hassan - 21-11-2016 Another 7.3 earthquake hits Fukashima Tsunami warning Immediate evacuation called for. ::willynilly:: Thousands evacuate as Fukishima nuclear emergency is declared - Peter Lemkin - 22-11-2016 Magda Hassan Wrote:Another 7.3 earthquake hits Fukashima Tsunami warning Immediate evacuation called for. ::willynilly:: They were lucky this time...there was a tsunami, but it was only 2-3 meters high. In 2011 it was a magnitude 9 quake. It is ONLY a matter of time before another big one hits and destroys the 'repaired' and 'mothballed' reactors releasing tens of thousands of tons of very highly radioactive substances into the air and sea. This quake was CENTERED just a few Km from Fukashima - tsunamis usually are largest if one is further away from the epicenter - but it also depends on the profile of the surface bottom and shore as well as the direction of motion of the shift during the earthquake [side to side, or up and down]. Again, only a matter of time. Japan is one of the most seismically active islands in the World - also one of the most highly populated. It also has the highest density of nuclear reactors of any country. If this quake caused new cracks, leaks and shifting of the radioactives in the damaged reactors is likely, but it is not likely TEPCO would admit this. Thousands evacuate as Fukishima nuclear emergency is declared - Peter Lemkin - 28-11-2016 Current estimate [conservative by the company and government] is that the 'clean-up' will only cost 300.000.000.000 US$. I think it will come to double that and can still never be cleaned up in any safe manner....let alone reverse the damage done and that will be done before the clean-up [by their own estimates] is 'done' in 30 years time. Thousands evacuate as Fukishima nuclear emergency is declared - Peter Lemkin - 08-02-2017 After a very long period of silence to the public, there has just been tests of the levels of radiation at the Fukashima plant. It was released five days ago. [that was the good news]. : :The radiation levels at the Fukishima Plant are the HIGHEST EVER recorded! [i.e. things are getting worse and worse, not slowly better as we have been told!]. One scientist said the radiation levels now were ABSOLUTELY 'UNIMAGINABLE'!!!!....[i.e. time to really worry...these reactors could 'blow' or 'melt-down' at anytime now - not to mention local effects - this now again threatens everyone Worldwide]. No reason to believe that the radiation levels will not continue to further increase, as they obviously have continuously for six years! Relax, the current readings are 'only' 726% higher than the last readings!!!! : tampfeet::[Trump is all in favor of new nuclear plants...after all the oil and coal interests have been to the feeding trough] I've not seen the full report yet [will try to and report], but my educated guess is that over time, super-heated nuclear fuel in molten form has slowly been pooling and collecting in larger and larger pools...this would cause increased heat and increased dangers of new breaches and/or blow-outs/melt-downs. ::pullhairout:: When the temperature and/or pressure get high enough, the nuclear fuel can vaporize into the air or slither into the sea - ready to spread Worldwide. The quantities 'available' are much greater than at Chernobyl. Quote:Justin McCurry in Tokyo NHK World, Feb 3, 2017 (emphasis added): The operator of the crippled Fukushima Daiichi nuclear power plant is examining if it can go ahead with a plan to deploy a robot into one of the damaged reactors at the facility… An analysis of the images found that the radiation level inside the vessel was up to 530 sieverts per hour. Officials speculate that fuel debrisa mixture of nuclear fuel and melted parts of the reactor's facilitymay be emitting strong radiation inside the vessel… Last week's probe found that part of a metal grating just beneath the reactor was missing. The robot was supposed to move around on the grating. Theimage analysis also found that an around one square-meter section near the missing segment is about to collapse.NHK World transcript, Feb 3, 2017: "[Tepco] is facing more setbacks.Tepco has found unstable grating near a rector that will make it difficult to conduct further surveillance to help it decommission the plant… They found a section the size of a square meter is about to collapse. They had already found holes in other sections… A nuclear power expert suggests that will make it difficult for workers to locate the fuel." NHK World transcript, Feb 3, 2017 (at 1:30 in): "Engineers were able to get a glimpse inside Reactor No. 2… They found that a section one meter square is about to collapse. They had already found holes in other sections." ![]() Asahi, Feb 3, 2017: TEPCO said it will consider a different route for the robot… Fumiya Tanabe, an expert on nuclear safety… said the findings show that both the preparation for and the actual decommissioning process at the plant will likely prove much more difficult than expected. "We have few clues on the exact locations, the sizes and the shapes of the nuclear fuel debris," he said. "The planned investigation by the robot needs a rethink. Work to decommission the plant will require even more time." CNET, Feb 3, 2017: High radiation levels at Fukushima reactor is bad, bad news Time to reconsider that trip to the east coast of Japan. A containment vessel at the destroyed Fukushima No. 1 power plant has reached off-the-chart radiation levels, reported the Japan Times… Experts believe that escaped melted fuel can account for the spiked reading. Thousands evacuate as Fukishima nuclear emergency is declared - Magda Hassan - 08-02-2017 ::willynilly::: :
Thousands evacuate as Fukishima nuclear emergency is declared - Peter Lemkin - 08-02-2017 Magda Hassan Wrote:::willynilly::: Most responsible nuclear scientists feel the above 'estimate' of the clean-up is off by about 5X the price. It would take at least 30-40 years at current estimates...and given the increase by 736% in radiation in just over a year...we do NOT have much more time!!!!....Tepco will go kaboom...along with a lot of that part of Japan and I'm afraid a lot more cancers all over the World. ONLY immediate dismantling of the plant [costing an unbelievably huge sum of money ~ a trillion dollars or so] could possibly save things now..IMHO. Even if the money and will to do so were forthcoming [they are not], the engineering solution to this is unknown [no one really knows how to remove molten nuclear fuel in a safe manner - its temperature alone makes it almost impossible to handle or move] - and such engineering solutions would have to be quickly invented....not to mention, the disposal location for this material would be where?.... They have created a monster that grows stronger and more dangerous by the minute. Not hearing about it has not reduced the problem...in fact, it has increased in the subsequent 'silence'. Sadly, some Japanese have moved back into the communities near the plant [based on the lies by Tepco that things were under control and 'cooling down'. They were heating up and getting more dangerous - but the worst is yet to come! There is NO way this material will of its own accord cool and become less radioactive - quite the opposite. When the pools of molten core from one reactor mix with those of one [two, three, four, five...] others things will get very 'interesting' indeed. This now seems somewhat inevitable..... ....even a specially designed 'radiation-proof' robot is expected to only survive two hours working near [not with] the melted nuclear fuel....humans can't even get anywhere near...and robots that 'die' in two hours [of the radiation, not the heat] just won't work for moving the contents nor dismantling the buildings and containment vessels, etc. [as they'd have to survive a LOT longer AND the heat of molten metal, as well!] Nothing I know of can 'dilute' or 'negate' the radiation - only temporarily shield some of it.] A 'China syndrome' might be the least horrible result - but it could get stopped partway down into the Earth in a groundwater layer and pollute the groundwater of a huge area [and the sea] basically forever. The outlook is NOT good, and Tepco has NO control over what is happening no matter what they are saying. [Add to that, what they - and much of the other pro-nuclear people - have been saying is basically a big lie to comfort everyone.] Summary: Things at Fukishima are worse than they have ever been - never has it been so dangerous and unstable; and it is getting worse!...and will continue to get worse for the foreseeable long future! No known plan will work at this point - and none is even being discussed; this despite the need to do SOMETHING major immediately! Thousands evacuate as Fukishima nuclear emergency is declared - Peter Lemkin - 08-02-2017 A good and interesting documentary...however, in the end it paints an erroneous picture of the plant being stable four years after...which the report of Feb 3 shows it CLEARLY is NOT!!!! Thousands evacuate as Fukishima nuclear emergency is declared - Peter Lemkin - 10-02-2017 They sent in the robot [specially built to be radiation resistant] yesterday. The TV camera necessary to guide its movements failed in less than two hours [the theoretical limit for the robot] due to the high radiation [which can destroy electronic components almost as easily as it can living cells]. So, they were able to do little. What they saw before failure will likely NOT be made public, but was very troubling - melted fuel, holes in the containment vessel, rusted and broken components - total chaos. Several of the reactors are NOT stable and are heating up as I write. Remember that the radiation levels increased by an amazing 736% since the last time a reading was done. I'd say that it is an EMERGENCY situation, but it isn't even making the news....well, it will soon...but then it will be too late for Japan and the World - for those near Fukishimi, it will be 'all she wrote'. ::headexplode:: |