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MH 370: Missing Malaysian Airliner - Magda Hassan - 30-07-2015
Local university NSW aviation expert Peter Marosszeky said in an interview this morning that it was probably not from a Boeing and therefore not from that missing flight. Something about Boeing parts being painted grey and this is part has white paint on it. Could be bleached though. Apparently it is not the only missing large plane in the area. It could belong to them. He also said that it is likely a government is withholding information of the event.
MH 370: Missing Malaysian Airliner - Lauren Johnson - 30-07-2015
Magda Hassan Wrote:Local university NSW aviation expert Peter Marosszeky said in an interview this morning that it was probably not from a Boeing and therefore not from that missing flight. Something about Boeing parts being painted grey and this is part has white paint on it. Could be bleached though. Apparently it is not the only missing large plane in the area. It could belong to them. He also said that it is likely a government is withholding information of the event.
After I posted this update, I thought, "This is bullshit." Somehow, "they" planted the parts. Just sayin'.
MH 370: Missing Malaysian Airliner - Peter Lemkin - 30-07-2015
If it is from that plane, it might be possible to soon determine or not. If not, then it is likely from another large plane that crashed. If it is [and they will admit it is...a big IF], then one has to look at wind and water circulation patterns to try to figure out about where it came from [which will be a large area, given all the time to move about]. Even though most planes parts are aluminum, they don't float in water unless they have a sealed air space - so strange it floated in. All very strange, and brings at least heading for Diego Garcia back into the picture, IMHO. That it could be a plant must also be considered, but most plants can be discovered with a little work as fakes [not from that specific plane]. Would be difficult, but not impossible, to fake part ID numbers. Many plane parts, but not all, have unique numbers that are recorded by the manufacturer and airline when the part is built or is replaced during maintenance. I'm not an expert by any means, but it seems a small part of the wing to by chance have a uniquely numbered part. What type of plane will be the easiest part...which exact plane a bit more difficult unless there is a unique part number and they tell the truth about that number.
I find the coincidence of this turning up today, on the same day the Security Council was voting on doing an investigation or not [not due to Russian veto] on the other Malaysian crash, 'interesting'. What are the chances of that?!
MH 370: Missing Malaysian Airliner - Drew Phipps - 30-07-2015
I have kind of a problem with the idea that this wing washed ashore at the location in those photos. It's not a beach. The water looks smooth as a mirror. There are lines of stones over which the wing would have had to travel to arrive at this spot. It's in the grass. Grass doesn't typically grow where it would get regularly tidally soaked by seawater.
Also, I heard this yesterday on the CNN news, which you might not hear again: A talking head aviation expert says the visible damage on this part doesn't indicate a high speed collision event, but more like a "flaps-extended" (lower speed) attempt to land, as this part apparently was ripped from the plane prior to the main wing striking the water.
MH 370: Missing Malaysian Airliner - Magda Hassan - 30-07-2015
Now there is a suitcase found....
http://www.businessinsider.com.au/luggage-has-washed-up-on-island-where-possible-mh370-debris-was-found-2015-7
https://twitter.com/a_forestier/status/626666179512401920/photo/1
But no way has it been in the oceans for more than a year. Unless they found it very soon after but that makes no sense re the currents and travel time.
MH 370: Missing Malaysian Airliner - Albert Doyle - 30-07-2015
Drew, It was found elsewhere and brought there.
They use lightweight carbon fiber honeycomb boards on aircraft that are sealed by glue and have sealed airspace that would be buoyant.
No other 777 ever crashed in the Indian Ocean so if it is confirmed as a 777 flap then it's a match.
https://encrypted-tbn2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTkVPcJ4U4GWI6Daz0xnKDcNICEZmF9JR292lZN-kHcgWabbcl8M0krnQ
MH 370: Missing Malaysian Airliner - Peter Lemkin - 30-07-2015
Drew Phipps Wrote:I have kind of a problem with the idea that this wing washed ashore at the location in those photos. It's not a beach. The water looks smooth as a mirror. There are lines of stones over which the wing would have had to travel to arrive at this spot. It's in the grass. Grass doesn't typically grow where it would get regularly tidally soaked by seawater.
I saw video footage of some men carrying it from a beach to another location inland, so I don't think that it is being claimed to have landed from the sea onto that grass. Much is not yet known, such as who found it and its chain of custody has clearly been less than formal. It does have mussels growing on it, clearly visible. However, I was thinking, if one wanted to confuse everyone as to the real location of the craft's disappearance, what better than to get a real production part, put it in the sea for a year and then make it appear somewhere other than where the plane went down. As for the suitcase, how could that have stayed afloat unless it was one of the super strong, supper-watertight kind that are used for electronics and photography equipment? It all could be...but it also could be many other things than what it is being purported to be.
MH 370: Missing Malaysian Airliner - Albert Doyle - 30-07-2015
They say now a parts stencil on the inside of this piece of wreckage confirms it is a 777 flap.
MH 370: Missing Malaysian Airliner - Peter Lemkin - 06-08-2015
There is no conclusive proof [so far] that this came from that particular plane, but they are treating it is if it has been confirmed. If there was no 'salting' of evidence, then it is likely, as I believe no other 777 went down or missing in the Indian Ocean area....if some salting of 'evidence' had been done, then the game is still wide open.....
The media, with almost no exceptions (except some skeptical independent bloggers) and the Malaysians, however, have certainly overstated the positiveness of a 'match'. I'll believe it is a 777 part; but I'm not yet convinced it is from that particular plane. Had the disappearance of the plane not been so mysterious, I might not be so skeptical.
Quote:According to the French prosecutor in Paris, the investigators' conclusion remains only a "very strong presumption" based on Boeing's confirmation that it was a 777, and "specific technical characteristics" communicated by the Malaysian Airlines engineers in Kuala Lumpur.
No definitive serial numbers have been immediately found on the part, but it could potentially mean that some part of the maintenance regime over its years of service have left an identifying mark - but if this is the case, it has not been so stated.
MH 370: Missing Malaysian Airliner - Magda Hassan - 06-08-2015
Here the news is quoting the Malaysian PM as saying it is confirmed from the MH370 plane. But then the French have only ever confirmed that "there was a very high probability" that it was from the same plane. Not really a confirmation. And it really shouldn't be this difficult to say yes it is or no it isn't.