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Robert McNeil vs. Pearce Allman: One of them is lying, or there really were two Oswalds - Albert Doyle - 22-06-2016
Drew Phipps Wrote:Albert Doyle Wrote:Harvey must have been under instruction to leave via the back door in order not to mix with Lee.
The problem, Albert, with that simple explanation, is that "Harvey" (if I am understanding who's who here) is the one who mentions to DPD the meeting with McNeil at the front door.
Jim, I am looking forward to John's response.
It's possible he ducked out the back door after being stopped at the front.
Another problem is the Harvey Oswald also mentioned the station wagon even though it was Lee who got in it.
These inconsistencies do not answer the master evidence of one Oswald on the bus and one in the station wagon. This is the deciding and dominating evidence.
Robert McNeil vs. Pearce Allman: One of them is lying, or there really were two Oswalds - Jim Hargrove - 25-06-2016
Robert McNeil vs. Pearce Allman: One of them is lying, or there really were two Oswalds - Jim Hargrove - 25-06-2016
Albert Doyle Wrote:Another problem is the Harvey Oswald also mentioned the station wagon even though it was Lee who got in it.
Yeah, that is a little hard to figure out, though from the same source (Fritz's notes) it's clear that Harvey also said he rode the bus and taxi and by implication, not the Rambler.
Robert McNeil vs. Pearce Allman: One of them is lying, or there really were two Oswalds - Albert Doyle - 25-06-2016
Jim Hargrove Wrote:Albert Doyle Wrote:Another problem is the Harvey Oswald also mentioned the station wagon even though it was Lee who got in it.
Yeah, that is a little hard to figure out, though from the same source (Fritz's notes) it's clear that Harvey also said he rode the bus and taxi and by implication, not the Rambler.
I've always resolved this by suggesting Harvey caught a police transmission or overheard talk from Craig reporting the station wagon incident. Harvey, being in the Paine loop, thought they were referring to Mrs Paine's station wagon when in fact it was the dark skinned driver's vehicle and not the Paine's. That would explain Harvey having knowledge of a station wagon without actually seeing the same station wagon Craig saw.
Robert McNeil vs. Pearce Allman: One of them is lying, or there really were two Oswalds - Albert Doyle - 25-06-2016
Robert McNeil vs. Pearce Allman: One of them is lying, or there really were two Oswalds - Albert Doyle - 25-06-2016
Robert McNeil vs. Pearce Allman: One of them is lying, or there really were two Oswalds - Jim Hargrove - 26-06-2016
Albert Doyle Wrote:I've always resolved this by suggesting Harvey caught a police transmission or overheard talk from Craig reporting the station wagon incident. Harvey, being in the Paine loop, thought they were referring to Mrs Paine's station wagon when in fact it was the dark skinned driver's vehicle and not the Paine's. That would explain Harvey having knowledge of a station wagon without actually seeing the same station wagon Craig saw.
Even in 1963, there must have been a lot of station wagons in a metropolitan area the size of Dallas. The two vehicles in question were not very similar. For Harvey to have assumed Mrs. Paine had a reason to be driving close to the TSBD in her station wagon, he must have assumed she had something to do with... uh, something.... I suppose we'll never know what story Harvey was given to keep him following instructions that afternoon.
Robert McNeil vs. Pearce Allman: One of them is lying, or there really were two Oswalds - Albert Doyle - 26-06-2016
Funny, but this could be evidence of the two Oswalds. Since Harvey didn't get into the station wagon and assumed it was Mrs Paine's it could be an indication that Harvey thought Lee had been caught getting into Mrs Paine's station wagon. Which would be proof Harvey knew not only Lee but also knew Lee had a relationship with Mrs Paine.