Mark Stapleton Wrote:

James H. Fetzer Wrote:OK. Your knowledge of the role of the anti-Castro Cubans appears to be quite limited. They were extremely important politically at the time and had extensive connections with both the mob and the agency in ops on the island. A good book related to this is THE ZENITH SECRET by Bradley Ayers, an Army captain on loan to the CIA from May 1963 to December 1964. Indeed, the anti-Castro Cubans have been politically potent ever since in affecting US politics because of the important role of the State of Florida in elections. The embargo against Cuba, for example, would have ended long ago, were it not for the political clout of that community. If you know no more about Alpha 66, for example, or that Banister and Ferrie and Oswald were involved in anti-Castro activities in New Orleans, then your research appears to have been very selective. Noel Twyman, BLOODY TREASON, spends a lot of time on the individuals and groups who were involved in the assassination. You might want to take some time studying it. Neither Noel Twyman nor James Douglass nor any of those with whom I have conducted research on JFK has discovered a role for Israel in taking out JFK. You really need to do more homework.

I'm trying hard James but you're not making it easy.

You focus on the Anti-Castros and the mafia but those groups didn't make any tangible gains from JFK's death, relative to what Israel gained, and if their motive was revenge it pales compared to Israel's motive. Why do you think Israeli involvement so inconcievable?

What I would like to know is your understanding of who planned it and why, without reference to the works of others. You stated in an earlier post that LBJ and JEH were the principals. Is that your belief? If so, how has the coverup remained in place so long after their deaths? How did they get the military to botch the autopsy? Who was murdering all the witnesses and other potential threats in the years after the assassination and why has the media been so hostile to investigations and investigators since 1963?

David Healy Wrote:posting evidence pointing to Israel would be unique, to say the least. -- Israel "did it" posturing and bluster the past few years has produced NO credible evidence, simply anti US "convenient" theories. Perhaps you know of evidence? If so, please share it!

Magda Hassan Wrote:Duck Charles!

Charles Drago Wrote:Gentlemen,

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I respectfully submit to my good and true friends Jim Fetzer and Mark Stapleton that your respective arguments would be best served were you to share with us your respective organization charts of the conspiracy.

As you may know, I have offered my own version (jointly developed with George Michael Evica) more than once on this website (http://www.deeppoliticsforum.com/forums/showthread.php?t=419) and on at least one other. Feel free to review it and, if you deem it worthy in part or in full, work with its structure.

If you deem it to be unworthy, and/or if you already are confident in your own model(s), then please share your hypotheses with us.

In the spirit of full disclosure, I remain of the informed opinion that the parties each of you identify as bearing culpability in the JFK murder belong on what in the Evica/Drago model is termed the "Facilitator" level of the plot.

Just trying to help, gentlemen. Please carry on.

Charles

Phil Dragoo Wrote:Obama now calls upon Israel to relinquish its nuclear weapons. What enormous leverage he will have when he releases from the national archives the proof of Israel's sponsorship of the assassination of the 35th president.