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"Dr. Mary's Monkey" - Albert Doyle - 15-08-2011 Ed, Thanks for posting those videos. The pre-emptive application of state security secrecy was obviously taken advantage of to cover-up a CIA coup. "Dr. Mary's Monkey" - Jan Klimkowski - 15-08-2011 Dawn Meredith Wrote:No-one could remember dialogue from that long ago, so I have no problem with the posts doubting the dialogue, but what about the actual books? The information contained in each. ( Judyth's and Haslam's) I read both and believe they are important books. Hi Dawn - more of my concerns can be found in post #15 here. I will go further. In the Cold War period, Tulane was the site of deeply disturbing experimentation, often funded by American intelligence through cutouts such as foundations. Tulane's Dr Robert G Heath was a major MK-ULTRA player, though less well known than the likes of Ewen Cameron and Louis Jolyon West. Part of my working hypothesis is that Haslam's research has uncovered scientific crimes of considerable signficance. Another part of my working hypothesis is that Lee Harvey Oswald and Judyth Vary Baker have been inserted into these scientific crimes, and that their presence as pivotal players in these events is both unnecessary and unlikely. If it is is true that Ferrie was experimenting on mice in his home, then he may well have been trying to develop a poison. However, the whole Ferrie-was-testing-a-cancer-causing-virus-to-use-to-kill-Castro, or whatever the claim actually is, strikes me as a ripping yarn. The historical context is important too. I spent several years in the 1990s interviewing members of a generation of people who had been born in the 40s, 50s and early 60s and who claimed to have been experimented upon as children by behaviourist scientists, many with links to MK-ULTRA and other mind control doctors. Some of their accounts were almost certainly not true. Several had considerable corroborating details and, on the balance of probabilities, are likely genuine. I also conducted an extensive search of the scientific literature. I will be discreet here, to preserve and protect research techniques. However, in short, when Heath was sticking electrodes in the heads of his test subjects - including prisoners and children - to attempt to change their behaviour in fundamental ways, this was not a secret. Consider the experimentation on Ted Kaczynski and his peers at Harvard by Dr Henry Murray of the OSS. There was nothing essentially covert about this. Then consider Operation Whitecoat. This was the testing of biological warfare agents on Conscientious Objectors at Fort Detrick. It is my conviction that if US intelligence was developing a biological weapon to assassinate Castro, the research would have taken place in a university laboratory or at a specialist site such as Fort Detrick. Human field trials would then have taken place. US and Big Pharma colonies such as Haiti, Costa Rica and Panama would probably have been the locations of these terminal human tests. Ferrie, Oswald, Baker and some mice? I don't think so. "Dr. Mary's Monkey" - Albert Doyle - 15-08-2011 I don't know, doesn't the Clinton trip kind of prove Haslam's story? "Dr. Mary's Monkey" - Jan Klimkowski - 15-08-2011 Albert Doyle Wrote:I don't know, doesn't the Clinton trip kind of prove Haslam's story? Albert - not sure of your meaning. Are you referring to Clay Shaw driving Oswald to Clinton so he could register to vote? "Dr. Mary's Monkey" - Charles Drago - 15-08-2011 Jan Klimkowski Wrote:Ferrie, Oswald, Baker and some mice? I don't think so. This observation and the material which precedes it in post 32 above comprise a piece of brilliant deep political research-based reasoning. For some, LHO and the greater JFK conspiracy are the gifts that keep on giving. "Dr. Mary's Monkey" - Albert Doyle - 16-08-2011 Jan Klimkowski Wrote:Albert - not sure of your meaning. Are you referring to Clay Shaw driving Oswald to Clinton so he could register to vote? Why was Baker along? And couldn't they trace an Angola inmate who died of cancer 28 days later? "Dr. Mary's Monkey" - Ed Jewett - 16-08-2011 http://doctormarysmonkey.com/index.htm which contains Interview with America's leading vaccine developer Hear the Chief of Vaccines explain how the massive cross-contamination of monkeys in Merck's laboratories lead him to import African Green Monkeys loaded with SIV (ancestor virus to HIV/AIDS) into the U.S. for research in his vaccine laboratory. Then Hilleman details how he personally broke the news to the polio vaccine developer Albert Sabin in 1954 that he had found SV-40, a cancer causing virus in Sabin's polio vaccine. Hilleman is interviewed by Edward Shorter, Professor of the History of Medicine at the University of Toronto and author of The Health Century, the book which triggered that PBS TV series. The question is: What did they do once they knew? Was there a "Medical Manhattan Project" to produce a vaccine in time? Interview with the witness to the witness - Anna Lewis Anna Lewis knew Judyth Vary Baker and Lee Harvey Oswald in New Orleans in the summer of 1963. Anna's husband, David Lewis, worked for the notorious Guy Banister and knew David Ferrie well. Hear Anna describe how she and her husband socialized with Judyth and Lee that summer, including an evening at the 500 Club on Bourbon Street where they personally met with Mafia boss Carlos Marcello. Hear Anna admit that she lied to Jim Garrison when she told him that she did not know Lee Harvey Oswald. Video. Plays-on-demand. Free. 34 minutes. Google video. Video interview with the author - Ed Haslam Hear the author discuss the contamination of the polio vaccine and the Medical Manhattan Project that used radiation to mutate monkey viruses in hopes of developing an anti-cancer vaccine. Hear him describe what is wrong with the official explanation of Dr. Mary Sherman's murder. And hear him introduce his new witness, Judyth Vary Baker, who has come forward to explain how she became involved in the underground medical laboratory in David Ferrie's apartment… and how Lee Harvey Oswald was involved. This 2003 interview was conducted by award-winning journalist and best-selling author Jim Marrs. Video. Free. 58 min. Click here to listen to a one hour interview (with graphics) by Dr. Jim Fetzer on April 17, 2010 which is missing but there are four 40-minutes segments of the Coast to Coast radio show... Click here to listen to a two hour radio interview recorded March 14, 2009 on The American Awakening. and more... ****** ![]() ****** A 10-minute (Wim Dankbaar's) interview with Haslam: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CmLfKGl9MMw ****** A Google search for "Edward Haslam" ****** FRIDAY, APRIL 9, 2010 James Fetzer's blog which includes lots of text, a 9:40 min. YouTube on Jim Garrison, Chapter 17 of the original "Mary, Ferrie, & The Monkey Virus", and a series of videos which has been removed. http://jamesfetzer.blogspot.com/2010/04/ed-haslam-dr-marys-monkey.html "Dr. Mary's Monkey" - Ed Jewett - 01-11-2011 Browse > Home / Canada / Judyth Vary Baker, Girlfriend of Lee Harvey Oswald, Survives Another Attemp On Her Life While In Toronto Judyth Vary Baker, Girlfriend of Lee Harvey Oswald, Survives Another Attemp On Her Life While In TorontoOctober 31, 2011 by POPEYEFiled under Canada ![]() Link To Video On YT: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_gv2uj10CO0Check her websites out and get her book here: http://judythbaker.blogspot.com/ & http://meandlee.com/CHECK OUT JUDYTH'S YOUTUBE CHANNEL HERELISTEN TO POPEYE'S SHOW HEREhttp://www.rense.com/general95/leeandme.htm Tags: ASSASSINATION, CANADA, CIA, JFK, JFK ASSASSINATION, JUDYTH VARY BAKER, LEE HARVEY OSWALD, toronto, [URL="http://www.federaljack.com/?tag=world-news"]WORLD NEWS http://www.federaljack.com/?p=140250[/URL] "Dr. Mary's Monkey" - Peter Lemkin - 01-11-2011 I've been rather neutral on the issue of JVB, seeing the points of those who think she has invented or inserted herself a bit too much [some think entirely], but have kept an open mind, perhaps because I've been in contact with her by happenstance - not seeking her out...as we both live in Europe. I can't find it, but last week Linda Minor wrote on this forum of meeting her for a week in Canada [where she is doing lectures and book signings] and of being quite impressed with her. I've always been VERY impressed with Linda Minor, so find that a very interesting endorsement! A long interview with JVB can now be found on the internet from her Canadian visit. If someone can find the post by Minor, I suggest it be linked to this thread. I can't find it now...spent a lot of time searching. "Dr. Mary's Monkey" - Adele Edisen - 06-02-2012 Jan Klimkowski Wrote:Quote:Chapter 15 of Me and Lee [page 280-281] recounts the meeting on Saturday, May 11, 1963 between Dr. Mary Sherman, the author Judith Vary Baker, Lee Harvey Oswald, and David Ferrie. [In reverse order, the four players in this vignette are: the wandering bishop noted in Peter Levenda's "Sinister Forces"; the alleged "lone nut" patsied by the security state he worked for and killed on live television by Jacob Rubenstein, better known as Jack "Sparky" Ruby; the author (a youthful savant in cancer research); and an expert on bone tumors whose own strange un-investigated murder was the focus of a cover-up. This is weirdo stuff for me. Judyth Vary Baker, a completely untrained, uneducated "scientist", "genius" doing cancer research??? Never happened. Very doubtful that she even really knew Dr. Mary Sherman, or Marina Oswald's husband, the 5'9" (Lee) Harvey Oswald. or David Ferrie. Didin't her husband, Robert, say that she worked at a hamburger joint, White Castle, or something like that in New Orleans? Then later as a secretary at the Reily Coffee Company? Oswald a coffee-grinder machine oiler, wasn't he, in a far-away part of their building? I have known real virologists and cancer researchers, and believe me, they did not become scientists right after high school or a year or so of college. It takes years of intensive study and work. And, if Dr. Mary Sherman had a cancer project going, she would have hired first-rate technical and scientific staff. So would the CIA, and even Robert G. Heath. By the way, I was at Tulane University School of Medicine in the Department of Psychiatry and Neurology, and I know a lot about that place and the people there, a lot.. This is one very sad case of a person cleverly winding herself into a real situation, and being the "star" of the movie. There are a lot of people like this out there, and a good psychiatrrist can quickly figure them out, and so can an experienced policeman/detective. Police departments are sometimes overwhelmed by people confessing to a sensationalistic murder which they did not commit, or were not involved in in any way. This is similar to the entwinement by Judyth V. Baker into the JFK assassination and into the CIA murder plots on Fidel Castro. Even though the CIA has done some really stupid things, I can't conceive that they would have decided to use cancer virus-containing materials to eliminate someone like Castro when rifles or poisons would have been so much quicker. People can live a long time with cancer, depending upon the type of cancer and their immune systems. And also, foreign animal cells, or products injected would be quickly destroyed by a human immune system. I wonder how many have read Ed Haslam's earlier two versions of his later book. These were titled Mary, Ferrie, and the Monkey Virus. He showed the relationship between the polio vaccine and soft-tissue cancer growths, and also figured out how Dr. Mary Sherman died. For those reasons, that much of his work has real value. Incidentally, the person who discovered the relationship between viruses being one causative agent in inducing cancer tumor growths was Dr. Peyton Rous, when a young scientist at the Rockefeller Institute for Medical Research (as it was called then, becoming Rockefeller University in the 1960s). I met him there in 1955 when I was a Visiting Investigator in Dr. David Lloyd's laboratory. Dr. Rous and I had lunch together one day and he told me how he had made his famous discovery, in 1911 (or so). He won his Nobel Prize for that work in 1967, I think it was. Judyth could not have done those experiments. Has anyone wondered if she could have been a witting, or even an unwitting, agent of distraction and/or disinformation? The JFK research community has certainly spent a lot of time and effort in dealing with her. Rich DellaRosa had her on for a time on his forum and then asked her to leave because it was a waste of time. His sister, a professor of Psychology, diagnosed her affliction as Pseudologia Fantastica (fantastic falseword), one of the factitious disorders. In other words, pathologiocal lying, possibly an ego defense mechanism in attempting to repair a shattered ego. There is no known treatment for it, according to psychiatric textbooks, and the cause seems to be unknown, although childhood abuse has been mentioned. She needs help, but JFK researchers should not be validating her fictional life story, because that is not helping her. |