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Mae Brussell: Fritz Kraemer and Gladio - Jim Hackett II - 05-08-2013
Yes Ike did try to warn us.
BUT:
He did serve well as Dugout Doug MacArthur's Executive Officer (Adjutant) when Dugout Doug turned his USArmy troops loose on the Bonus Marchers in 1932.
The same Bonus Marchers Smedley Butler visited, contributed to and supported.
Peaceful citizens seeking redress of grievance attacked by US Army troops under his command authority as 2nd in line.
Herbert Hoover was pleased seeing the glow of flames from the White House.
Dugout Doug was pleased.
I figure Ike was too.
I would have resigned my commission before when the operation was being planned or when I was briefed on it.
Internal Moral Compass.
However, Ike was a victim of the ST.
Prouty makes this clear in more than one instance.
His Crusade For Peace was hoped to be his gift to the world on leaving office.
It is not unthinkable that the two former soldiers Eisenhower and Khrushchev could have found common ground.
Maybe even began rapprochement to the former ally in 1960.
It was wrecked in the contrived U-2 fiasco. May 1960.
That episode exposed the ST (or parts thereof) to Ike.
Even before May '60 Ike knew the danger.
He did push for satellite recon long before I knew anything about it.
I wonder if he was wanting to stop Le May's provocation in overflights.
He did halt John Foster's plans for "limited" nuke war twice.
Clearly he is not "one of them", he was burned badly by "them".
Of the Generals that became President, Eisenhower compares most favorably.
He was used.
At least they ruined his career as opposed to the action taken against the next President.
They allowed Ike to live.
The price of being a Career Citizen Soldier but not a Militarist even as President?
Mae Brussell: Fritz Kraemer and Gladio - Lauren Johnson - 17-11-2015
This website does not feature Kraemer's deep background. But there is some good info here. One note: the neocons have not fallen.
The Forty Years War: The Rise and Fall of of the Neocons from Nixon to Obama
EDIT: the fascinating intro of Kraemer comes at about 28:45. Listen to how he talks around Kraemer's deep bio. Listen to the audience snicker. They know full well where I came from.
Mae Brussell: Fritz Kraemer and Gladio - Jonathan Nolan - 06-02-2016
Fritz Kraemer crosses over with the Hjalmar Schacht family of Houston... One of whom, "Doctor" Schacht, turned up (and disappeared again) at Jonestown...
Mae Brussell: Fritz Kraemer and Gladio - Magda Hassan - 06-02-2016
Jonathan Nolan Wrote:Fritz Kraemer crosses over with the Hjalmar Schacht family of Houston... One of whom, "Doctor" Schacht, turned up (and disappeared again) at Jonestown...That's fascinating Jonathan. Same family?
Mae Brussell: Fritz Kraemer and Gladio - Jonathan Nolan - 06-02-2016
Magda Hassan Wrote:Jonathan Nolan Wrote:Fritz Kraemer crosses over with the Hjalmar Schacht family of Houston... One of whom, "Doctor" Schacht, turned up (and disappeared again) at Jonestown...That's fascinating Jonathan. Same family?
I don't think the same family, but definitely in the same "executive positions" together along with some others - a bit like how Dornberger went into private entperise.
The Kaemler connection is that wherever he or his immediate family appear, one of the other super-nazis pops up too, or one of their immediate family.
In relation to Prouty "getting it wrong" I think he didn't- Prouty was pentagon / DIA and hostile to CIA so anything on his side of that divide is a topic on which he is unreliable. Some of the most fascinating Prouty stuff was never chased up by his latter interviewers, just endless permutations of the same refined JFK story. Meanwhile he had deep and encyclopaedic knowledge of the nazi third force for example - and it went begging...