Quote:PIE controversy: Hewitt 'Backed age of consent as low as 10'






Report claims former Health Secretary's name appeared on a press release calling for reduction of age of consent and legalisation of incest

NIGEL MORRIS

DEPUTY POLITICAL EDITOR

Friday 28 February 2014

The former Labour Cabinet minister Patricia Hewitt allegedly backed calls for the age of consent to be reduced to as low as 10.

The allegation came after the controversy over the links between the National Council of Civil Liberties (NCCL) and the Paedophile Information Exchange (PIE) was reignited by a report in The Sun.
It claimed that a meeting in February 1976 of the NCCL's executive committee, which was attended by Ms Hewitt and Jack Dromey, the shadow police minister, agreed that the council should propose lowering the minimum age for sex to 14, or 10 in certain circumstances.
It also emerged that an NCCL press release was issued a month later which called for a reduction in the age of consent and the legalisation of incest. Ms Hewitt was general secretary of the organisation from 1974 to 1983.
According to The Sun, the press release from March 1976 read: "NCCL proposes that the age of consent should be lowered to 14, with special provision for situations where the partners are close in age or where the consent of a child over ten can be proved."
The document, which relates to an NCCL report on sexual law reformed, also says: "The report argues that the crime of incest should be abolished.
Last night Ms Hewitt did not deny the broke her silence to apologise for the NCCL's connection to the paedophile rights group and said that, as general secretary at the time, she took responsibility for mistakes that were made.
Her comments put pressure on Harriet Harman, the deputy Labour leader, who became the NCCL legal officer in 1978. Ms Harman has expressed regrets over the ties to the "vile" PIE, but said she had nothing to apologise for.
Jack Dromey said he was a 'resolute opponent' of PIEIn a statement today Mr Dromey, who is Ms Harman's husband, said he did not support the proposal on the age of consent at the committee meeting and was a "resolute opponent" of the PIE when he became chairman a few weeks later.
He said: "I did not agree with the proposal in February 1976 to lower the age of consent.
"When elected chairman of NCCL weeks later, I made it clear that my first priority would be to take on the child sex abusers of PIE. I then defeated them by a massive majority at the annual conference in April.
"My stand was denounced in a leaflet distributed by PIE to the delegates to the conference. I closed the conference saying that we had to protect children from sexual abuse and that adults guilty of sexual abuse were the lowest of the low. I was throughout a resolute opponent of a vile organisation."

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THE PAEDOFILE: While Miranda Moore QC goes for a second bite of DLT, the site Alice Love' is openly attracting pre-pubertal sex perverts

BY JOHN WARD FEBRUARY 28, 2014 CPS POLITICALLY MOTIVATED MARK WILLIAMS-THOMAS BAFFLED MET PLOD FUCKS UP AGAIN MIRANDA MOORE QCPAEDO SITE 'ALICE LOVE'

The strange case of the political cps and the incompetent Plod

If the shot above makes you feel uneasy, congratulations, you're normal. Had PIE's insane ideas about lowering the age of consent to 5 years old been taken forward, no doubt these days every website would be adorned with child pin-ups. The one above Alice Love has infants in come-on poses plastered all over its home page. It's not hidden: it's up there and out there: no trumpeted Prime Ministerial deal with ISPs is necessary to find it.
In late 1960s/early 1970s Britain, a remarkable trend was under way to suggest that everything was normal and should be tolerated. It came from the bourgeois liberal/Left…and was exploited by the nice-shoes wearers of the Hard Right Monday Club. The end result was something that both major political Parties (and Leon Brittan intimate Nick Clegg) are desperate for the electorate not to grasp or, if they already know, to forget it.
The Daily Mail last week, in classic style, hammered away at the coven in the NCCL. Somehow, it managed not to mention the odd case of Leftwing Tory Peter Bottomley being in the Rightwing Monday Club. Yes, of course the Dacre Mail has an agenda. But left's face it, thus far the Liberty Troika are not coming out of it awfully well.
The double-talk from Labour's 1970s fluffies continues. You-can-do-it if you Patricia Hewitt kicks off with the lame excuse that she's "been away for 12 days" in order to explain her silence. But she has now issued a statement.
In it, Hewitt says the NCCL was "naive" over its links with the Paedophile Information Exchange (PIE), butshe had never condoned the "vile crimes" of paedophiles.
Well hang on a minute duckie, the clue's in the name isn't it? Paedofile information etc? In an unrelated event, the Prime Minister said he had been naive about his links to Newscorp hackers, but he had never condoned the vile crime of phone hacking.
Ludicrous doubletalk. And Jack Droney is repeating that he has repeatedly condemned paedophiles repetitively in the past over and over again repeatedly in the media and Labour Party publications lots of times repeatedly. Except, um, he hasn't issued any evidence of these 24/7 repeats yet, as such.
What real paedophiles do is this: they go to jobs, careers, sites and forums to gain access to infants because they're convinced that people under four feet tall just can't wait to get started in the rumpy-pumpy business. They think this because they are deranged to varying degrees.
In reality, there are not that many of them per 000 of population. But there are plenty of sites catering for their needs. Alice Love boasts of its readership as follows:

The date shows that I took this pic-capture in the early hours of this morning. Over 7,600 posts, and 6,600 members. The link to it is above. Try it. It's truly delightful.
Now I realise this might just be me thinking things are easier than they seem, but I'd like to address some questions to a few of the key players in the Sex Crime industry that is mushrooming in Britain, just as the Race Relations career did fifty years ago:
1. Tell me Metropolitan Police, are your mediaeval surveillance techniques up to monitoring this site and tracing those who put sleazy posts up there about what a great bloke Tom O'Carroll was? Or are you too busy tailing homosexually harmless DJ Paul Gambaccini to get round to the 6,600 mainstream? Or put another way Met Plod, what first attracted you to celebrity Dave Lee Travis?
2. Can you explain to me, dear Miranda Moore QC, why shovelling public money at the pointless task of another bite from DLT's cherry is valid when (a) the guy clearly is not a paedophile in any sense of the word, and (b) there are 6,600 potentially dangerous pervs out there who obviously are? Could it be high-profile cases that are politically motivated pay more…and celebrity cases are good for a person's fame-fee escalation?
3. Hello cps, any chance of an FOI request revealing who took the decision to continue the disgraceful harassment of a 70′s groper?
4. Hi there lovely ISPs like Yahoo who have thus far completely ignored my complaints of last week….can you explain to me how you and your mates seem to know everything I've written within minutes, such that every website I visit has ads aimed at me alone….but it would be hard to trace and interview the child-fuckers signed up to Alice Love?
5. Fiddle-dee-dee MSM, what's the heads up on LB tapes and Elm House and why, just after the weekend's posts about historical Conservative paedophilia groups, The Star ran a Jimmy Savile piece composed entirely of bollocks, the Mail "outed" the NCCL Three about whom all this stuff has been known for 40 years, and the Fernbridge team yet again promised an imminent arrest of a high-profile figure…for which we're all holding our breath and turning purple?
6. Good morning Boris, I do realise that your up to your eyes in bankers and concerned about the turn of events over at the Old Bailey, but are you still "very satisfied" with Plod's progress on the Elm House investigation? Only quite a few of us out here aren't.
7. What-ho Mark Peeping-Thomas, I can't believe given your amazing qualifications as a criminologist and child protection consultant that you haven't spotted Alice Love before now. I think you should get on to it and…oh hang on mate, I forgot: who would pay your fee? Ah, right. Yes.
The inverse correlation between hypocrisy and justice was never more evident. Hat tip to Robert for pointing out Alic Love.

David Guyatt Wrote:Thanks. An excellent article from the Daily Express that gets right to the nub of the matter.

Focusing on one political party or another, or blame-storming old, retired celebs of the Beeb is not the issue.

Colin Wallace revealed what it was really about in Paul Foot's 1989 book Who Framed Colin Wallace when he discussed the Kincora Boys Home paedophile scandal and the role in that played by MI5.

Politicians are blackmailed and then allowed to do their thing so long as they do as they're told...

Quote:Oxley was shocked to discover that one of PIE's key members, Steven Smith, worked for the Home Office in its security and maintenance staff. Smith, it transpired, used his work phone to organise PIE events and Home Office notepaper for the organisation's correspondence.

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Cameron aide Patrick Rock arrested over allegations relating to child porn

Advisor to No 10 helped to draw up government policy on online pornography filters

Patrick Rock Photo: Steve Back










By James Kirkup, Political Editor

12:41AM GMT 04 Mar 2014



One of David Cameron's closest aides has been arrested on suspicion of offences relating to child pornography.

Patrick Rock, who was one of the government's advisors on policy for online pornography filters, was arrested last month after police examined computers in No 10 Downing Street.

Mr Rock resigned as a policy advisor to the Prime Minister soon afterwards.

No 10 said he was arrested last month "a few hours" after Downing Street contacted police.

The former deputy head of the No 10 Policy Unit has been close to Mr Cameron for two decades. The two men worked for Michael Howard when he was Home Secretary in the 1990s.



In Downing Street, he had the title of deputy director of policy and worked across a wide range of topics, including the government's policy on child pornography. His seniority was demonstrated by the fact that he was one of only three advisers given his own private office in No 10.
A spokesman for Mr Cameron said that the prime minister had been kept informed of the action against Mr Rock, 62.
The spokesman said: "This is an ongoing investigation so it would not be appropriate to comment further, but the Prime Minister believes that child abuse imagery is abhorrent and that anyone involved with it should be properly dealt with under the law."
In a statement, Downing Street confirmed the events that led to the arrest.
He said: "On the evening of February 12th Downing Street was first made aware of a potential offence relating to child abuse imagery. It was immediately referred to the National Crime Agency (CEOP). The Prime Minister was immediately informed and kept updated throughout.
"Patrick Rock was arrested at his home in the early hours of February 13th, a few hours after Downing Street had reported the matter.
"Subsequently, we arranged for officers to come into Number 10 have access to all IT systems and offices they considered relevant."
Downing Street confirmed Rock was one of the advisers involved in the Government's policy on internet filters to protect against child abuse images online.
Google and Microsoft agreed in November to introduce changes that will prevent such images from being listed in results for more than 100,000 searches.
A Downing Street spokeswoman said: "Patrick Rock was one of a number of advisers and officials involved in dealing with this issue but the work was led by somebody else, and decisions were taken by ministers."
An NCA spokeswoman declined to comment, stating it did not name suspects on arrest.

Was Patrick Rock tipped off about arrest for child abuse images?

• Rowena Mason, political correspondent
  
  
• The Guardian, Wednesday 5 March 2014
  

Quote:Was Patrick Rock tipped off about arrest for child abuse images?

Labour accuse No 10 of lack of transparency as David Cameron comes under pressure to explain timings of allegations

• Rowena Mason, political correspondent
  
• The Guardian, Wednesday 5 March 2014
  

Patrick Rock had earlier been accused of inappropriate behaviour by a colleague. Photograph: Steve Back/Rex Features

David Cameron is under pressure to explain whether his senior aide Patrick Rock was tipped off by Downing Street that he was accused of an offence related to child abuse images hours before his arrest by police.
Labour accused Number 10 late Tuesday of a "lack of transparency" about the senior adviser's resignation and subsequent arrest, which took place nearly three weeks ago but only became public after a leak to a newspaper.
It also emerged that the aide was previously accused of "inappropriate behaviour" by a colleague and this incident was investigated by his line manager, Ed Llewellyn, Cameron's chief of staff, who is also an old friend of Rock's.
The prime minister on Tuesday said he was "profoundly shocked" by allegations against Rock, who had worked on government policy about placing filters on internet pornography to protect children.
He insisted Downing Street has given "very full and straightforward answers" about the matter once a newspaper found out about the arrest.
However, the government has refused to give any exact timings around their discovery of the allegations, including when the police were alerted, when Rock was informed, when he resigned, and when Cameron found out.
Downing Street would only say that the police were alerted "immediately" when the matter arose on 12 February and Rock resigned the same day. He was arrested in his west London home in the early hours of 13 February a "few hours" after Downing Street reported it to police. The responses suggest Rock knew he was accused of a serious potential offence the day before he was arrested.
Cameron's official spokesman also declined to disclose the level of vetting given to Rock, 62, whether the alleged offence took place in Downing Street, and how the resignation came about.
Officers from the National Crime Agency subsequently examined computers and offices used in Downing Street by Rock, who was the deputy director of No 10's policy unit.
Tom Watson, a senior Labour MP who is calling for a public inquiry into the abuse allegations, told the Guardian: "There is a duty of care to Mr Rock, who has not been charged with anything as of today, yet I do think it is not unreasonable for Downing Street to explain why he resigned hours before the police appear to have acted."
Another Labour MP, John Mann, criticised the secrecy about details of the arrest and questioned the decision of Number 10 to keep silent for three weeks. "Yet again we are seeing a lack of transparency from No 10. It is highly inappropriate that a major figure could cease to be responsible for these policy areas without MPs and the public being made aware. We need to be sure there are no policy implications," he told the Evening Standard."
However, Cameron insisted it would not have been appropriate to "pre-emptively" brief the story before Downing Street was asked questions about it.
The prime minister's official spokesman said the complaint of "alleged inappropriate behaviour" during Rock's employment at No 10 was not linked to his arrest. He said this was "resolved" with the agreement of the complainant and Cameron was "aware" of such internal staffing matters.
This "inappropriate behaviour" complaint was investigated by a senior civil servant and Llewellyn, Cameron's chief of staff and an old Etonian, who worked alongside Rock with Lord Patten during the peer's time as a European commissioner in Brussels. Cameron and Rock also worked together as special advisers to Michael Howard in his time as home secretary in the mid 1990s.
The arrest of Rock who had been tipped for a Tory peerage, will have come as a severe shock to the prime minister and the Tory establishment.
Rock was never a member of Cameron's innermost circle, whose members are closer to the prime minister's age. But he was a respected and trusted figure who shared Cameron's sense of humour. He is credited with coining the phrase: "Cows moo, dogs bark, Labour put up taxes."