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Definite proof the BYPs were faked - and who is Johnnie GRIZZAFFI and what did he say? - Jim Hargrove - 02-02-2015
Peter Lemkin Wrote:... Hoover was and is a disgrace this Nation will never live down until they denounce him and take his name off of the FBI building. He is responsible for multiple acts of obstruction of justice, conspiracy, murder, treason, and worse!!
Well said, Peter, but you're preaching to the choir. Any idea how to make the Luce heirs admit their forebears sins? How do we make CBS, NBC, NYTimes and their ilk admit their complicity? It's all about mass media now, isn't it? Another book, however good, won't really help us, no?
Peter Lemkin Wrote:...this is faked evidence, faked photos, faked who took them and when, faked chain of evidence [or no chain of evidence], etc. One could make a list of the 100 reasons the 'official version' must be wrong - or 1000 reasons; even 10.000 reasons or more...it is only how much effort you want to exhaust. It only takes ONE thing to disprove the official version For this reason, it is not time wasted, IMO, to try to discover exactly how, who and when they faked/tampered with this phoney 'evidence'... ::
IMO, so much NARA stuff... I mean the really good stuff... is completely fake it's unbelievable, and probably no one will believe me. My favorite quote from one of Harrison Livingstone's books goes something like, "ALL THE EVIDENCE IS FAKE. ALMOST ALL OF IT!" Let's run that up the flagpole and see what the network news decides about our sanity. Their job is to make our jobs hopeless, but they still can't win!!!!!
Definite proof the BYPs were faked - and who is Johnnie GRIZZAFFI and what did he say? - Jim Hargrove - 02-02-2015
Albert Doyle Wrote:Any chance the envelope the Back Yard Photos came in was initialed and simply not available?
Maybe, but one of the Dallas Cops who initialed everything (Stovall, Adamcik, Rose?) testified something like, "We initialed everything, every scrap of paper, every picture, everything..." and there wasn't all that much stuff among Oswald's possessions.
I'll try to look up the quote if you're interested.
Definite proof the BYPs were faked - and who is Johnnie GRIZZAFFI and what did he say? - Drew Phipps - 02-02-2015
I agree Peter on the "when" question. The time frame to actually "plant" the photos at Ruth Paine's house after the assassination, to then be "found" by DPD, was very small. (1:50 PM to 3:30 PM, if we believe that DPD did actually find the photos) If the photos were faked, and the "how" involves more time than that, it is evidence of someone with foreknowledge.
Definite proof the BYPs were faked - and who is Johnnie GRIZZAFFI and what did he say? - Peter Lemkin - 02-02-2015
Jim Hargrove Wrote:Peter Lemkin Wrote:... Hoover was and is a disgrace this Nation will never live down until they denounce him and take his name off of the FBI building. He is responsible for multiple acts of obstruction of justice, conspiracy, murder, treason, and worse!!
Well said, Peter, but you're preaching to the choir. Any idea how to make the Luce heirs admit their forebears sins? How do we make CBS, NBC, NYTimes and their ilk admit their complicity? It's all about mass media now, isn't it? Another book, however good, won't really help us, no?
Peter Lemkin Wrote:...this is faked evidence, faked photos, faked who took them and when, faked chain of evidence [or no chain of evidence], etc. One could make a list of the 100 reasons the 'official version' must be wrong - or 1000 reasons; even 10.000 reasons or more...it is only how much effort you want to exhaust. It only takes ONE thing to disprove the official version For this reason, it is not time wasted, IMO, to try to discover exactly how, who and when they faked/tampered with this phoney 'evidence'... :
IMO, so much NARA stuff... I mean the really good stuff... is completely fake it's unbelievable, and probably no one will believe me. My favorite quote from one of Harrison Livingstone's books goes something like, "ALL THE EVIDENCE IS FAKE. ALMOST ALL OF IT!" Let's run that up the flagpole and see what the network news decides about our sanity. Their job is to make our jobs hopeless, but they still can't win!!!!!
Perhaps, but Truth is Truth whether 1% believe it, 1000 persons believe it, 1 person believes it, or no one believes it. Conversely, Lies are Lies even if most everyone believes in them or have been hoodwinked to trust authority to believe in and/or not question them. The presstitues are just that....and their 'John' is the CIA and other propaganda arms of the 'government' [which itself is but a Potemkin Village facade behind which lurks the real powers that be]. Many have suggested we all re-read 1984. A good idea, but re-reading Alice in Wonderland might just as well fit.
Definite proof the BYPs were faked - and who is Johnnie GRIZZAFFI and what did he say? - Albert Doyle - 02-02-2015
Jim Hargrove Wrote:Albert Doyle Wrote:Any chance the envelope the Back Yard Photos came in was initialed and simply not available?
Maybe, but one of the Dallas Cops who initialed everything (Stovall, Adamcik, Rose?) testified something like, "We initialed everything, every scrap of paper, every picture, everything..." and there wasn't all that much stuff among Oswald's possessions.
I'll try to look up the quote if you're interested.
Plus, if you think about it, a photo is very easy to initial since all you have to do is sign the back side that is open and easily available to initials. I would think they would make sure they ID'ed each piece of evidence. It doesn't seem likely they would not. Hmm.
Don't forget Brave New World Peter.
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