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New book...A DEEPER, DARKER TRUTH - Printable Version +- Deep Politics Forum (https://deeppoliticsforum.com/fora) +-- Forum: Deep Politics Forum (https://deeppoliticsforum.com/fora/forum-1.html) +--- Forum: JFK Assassination (https://deeppoliticsforum.com/fora/forum-3.html) +--- Thread: New book...A DEEPER, DARKER TRUTH (/thread-2396.html) |
New book...A DEEPER, DARKER TRUTH - Jack White - 19-10-2009 Adele Edisen Wrote:Quote:New book...A DEEPER, DARKER TRUTH I had forgotten that was an ASK conference. I thought it was Lancer. I think that was the about the time of the switchover from ASK to Lancer. They all begin to run together. Jack New book...A DEEPER, DARKER TRUTH - Peter Lemkin - 02-11-2009 Just got the book on Tom Wilson today! Mind Blowing just looking at the photos and reading a few lines. Will dive into it tonight and have more to say shortly. Get it!...and for the LNs it is the end of the 'road'! Case now closed! Conspiracy!...big time! New book...A DEEPER, DARKER TRUTH - Charles Drago - 02-11-2009 Peter, et al, Until Wilson's methodology can be independently verified and his work on the JFK materials replicated, we have NOTHING! Hasten the day. Charlie New book...A DEEPER, DARKER TRUTH - Peter Lemkin - 02-11-2009 Yes, But! I agree to really prove it to those outside the community. But for those who already know the basics, there is no way he could have forged or invented some of his images....and information he got from them. New book...A DEEPER, DARKER TRUTH - Charles Drago - 02-11-2009 No, But!!! Peter my friend, how long have you been at this game? "No way" this work could be fraudulent? Spare me! To paraphrase Fox Mulder, I'd like to believe. But I won't believe in Wilson's dream until it is rigorously tested. And neither should you. Charlie New book...A DEEPER, DARKER TRUTH - Jack White - 02-11-2009 Charles Drago Wrote:No, But!!! Charles...have you read the book? Jack New book...A DEEPER, DARKER TRUTH - Charles Drago - 02-11-2009 Jack, Yes I have -- from cover to cover. Please don't misunderstand me: I have as little reason to doubt the validity of Wilson's work as I have to accept it. None of us should demonstrate the tiniest objection to legitimately objective, rigorously scientific testing of his method in general and the application of his method to the JFK evidence in particular. As for Wilson's story in its non-technical aspects: I apologize in advance if you accept what I'm about to write as an insult to your friend's memory, but all I have right now is his word that events transpired as he related them. And surely you'll agree that when it comes to the investigation of this case, the word of no man should satisfy us when other avenues of investigation are open. And no, I am not advocating for rigged experiments of the Randi, FEMA, and NIST varieties, for example. Let Oliver Stone and/or other monied third parties ante up and fund controlled, monitored experiments. Let the chips fall where they may. In closing, let me ask -- if you know -- why no overt mention is made of Wilson's alleged visit to the "secret" archives as facilitated by Ted Kennedy. Or should I infer that the multi-staged forgeries Wilson claims to have examined -- photos not previously known to exist -- were made available on that visit? Charles New book...A DEEPER, DARKER TRUTH - Peter Lemkin - 02-11-2009 I agree that the methodology must be validated, but I am struck by the information and photos, along with what I know privately, and is not in the book. Of course there could be and should be some doubt....but I think this will go a long way to satisfy [until the validation] much of what he claimed to have found. I still do not think that EVERY one of his findings can be taken as gospel, but I think, in the end, he'll have a very high 'batting average' and has done what none thought could be done. Again, I have some private information, that apparently is not in the book that lends some further positive credence. His paranoia and secrecy must be condemned as naive, at best. His lawsuit a folly. His having given much of the best evidence to the FBI's 'black hole' a gross error. He wasn't perfect and didn't walk on water, but I think his general technique might be a boon to us in the research community. As you know, I was working on the validation and had been 'blocked' - unbeknownst to me due to the book. Time to get back 'at it'! New book...A DEEPER, DARKER TRUTH - Charles Drago - 03-11-2009 God speed, Peter. Let's make the best use of Wilson's work as it exists. Let's validate it if we can, dispose of it if we must. If he's the real deal, everything can change. New book...A DEEPER, DARKER TRUTH - Jack White - 03-11-2009 Charles Drago Wrote:Jack, Tom's visit to the "secret" Archives may not be in the book because he may have been careful to leave no written record of it for reasons unknown, perhaps to avoid embarrassing any secret sources, such as Ted Kennedy or others. Tom was very circumspect about proper protocol. Perhaps he had made some sort of promise to Marshall or Kennedy. I have related his visit to the "secret" Archives just as he told it to me. He described how he was given access because he had written a letter to Teddy, who referred him to Marshall, who gave him a written letter of permission to see files not in the public section. He described how he was searched for cameras, recorders, pens, pencils and papers, because his visit was limited to one hour and he could do an "eyes only" review of the materials without taking notes of any kind. He described how a large envelope was brought out for him to examine while a guard stood nearby watching. He was astonished that the envelope was what might be called a JOB ENVELOPE containing autopsy "original" photos, and the several "in-between" art steps involved in retouching the originals. Tom was an extremely honest (but a bit naive) man who could not believe what he had seen. This confirmed the government had lied. I could tell by the awe in his voice that he was relating an actual event that had occurred. He did not make this story up. Of that I am 100 percent certain. Why it is not in the book, I do not know. I do not necessarily agree with ALL of Tom's CONCLUSIONS...but I definitely know that he was honest, but was very naive in his trust of government institutions. He thought he could work through the existing system of justice. He was wrong about that. I know enough about computers and photography to know that his work was based on sound principles. He would not have been the top computer man at US Steel without great credentials. He had invented a computer "light valve" on which he had a patent pending. He had a degree in electrical engineering. He was not some dumb-ass researcher making up something. Tom's computer work was valid; perhaps a FEW of his conclusions were not. As for Oliver Stone, he was so impressed with Tom's work that he hired Tom as a consultant to analyze numerous photos related to the movie. That is a pretty good endorsement, from a movie maker. Jack |