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Vatican Bank - David Guyatt - 09-06-2014
Magda Hassan Wrote:David Guyatt Wrote:The new pope does seem to be cleaning house doesn't he.
This is the sort of thing the "Smiling Pope" planned on doing but instead he got dead quickly.
Well this one does only eat in the cafeteria with all the hundreds of Vatican workers. I think he is aware that there has been a precedent.
The beddy-byes cup of coffee is a real killer, I find... ::zzzzz:: ::thumbsdown::
Vatican Bank - Magda Hassan - 09-06-2014
David Guyatt Wrote:Magda Hassan Wrote:David Guyatt Wrote:The new pope does seem to be cleaning house doesn't he.
This is the sort of thing the "Smiling Pope" planned on doing but instead he got dead quickly.
Well this one does only eat in the cafeteria with all the hundreds of Vatican workers. I think he is aware that there has been a precedent.
The beddy-byes cup of coffee is a real killer, I find... ::zzzzz:: ::thumbsdown::
Hopefully he remembers to take his thermos down to the cafeteria and fills it to have his beddy-byes cuppa later.
Vatican Bank - Peter Lemkin - 09-06-2014
David Guyatt Wrote:The new pope does seem to be cleaning house doesn't he.
This is the sort of thing the "Smiling Pope" planned on doing but instead he got dead quickly.
One does have to wonder if this Pope will die a natural death...or a quick unnatural one. While not a radical [in my 'book'], he does have a populist and refreshing viewpoint, and he must seem like a radical to the ultra, ultra conservative Vaticanists.....who have many financial and historical 'things' to hide!!!:
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Vatican Bank - David Guyatt - 10-06-2014
Peter Lemkin Wrote:David Guyatt Wrote:The new pope does seem to be cleaning house doesn't he....and he must seem like a radical to the ultra, ultra conservative Vaticanists.....who have many financial and historical 'things' to hide!!!:
This is the sort of thing the "Smiling Pope" planned on doing but instead he got dead quickly.
Not to mention all those knee-sitting and kiddie-fiddling activities over the decades.
Vatican Bank - Peter Lemkin - 10-06-2014
David Guyatt Wrote:Peter Lemkin Wrote:David Guyatt Wrote:The new pope does seem to be cleaning house doesn't he....and he must seem like a radical to the ultra, ultra conservative Vaticanists.....who have many financial and historical 'things' to hide!!!:
This is the sort of thing the "Smiling Pope" planned on doing but instead he got dead quickly.
Not to mention all those knee-sitting and kiddie-fiddling activities over the decades.
Oh, that too....Nero fiddled while Rome burned; various and sundry clerics in the Church of Rome just fiddled and fiddled and fiddled.....
Vatican Bank - Peter Lemkin - 25-06-2014
Czech MP Incites Outrage with Statement Catholic Church Collaborated with Nazis
By Noviny / June 23rd, 2014![[Image: images-21.jpg?w=307&h=200&crop=1]](http://www.constantinereport.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/06/images-21.jpg?w=307&h=200&crop=1)
Igor JakubÄÃk, poslanec Poslanecké snÄ›movny Parlamentu ÄŒR, ÄŒSSD, ÄŒeská strana sociálnÄ› demokratická CTK Å tÄ›rba Martin, Fotobanka ÄŒTK
June 20, 2014
Prague Czech Social Democrat (CSSD) lawmaker Igor Jakubcik caused outrage with his statement that the Catholic Church was an ally of Nazi Germany and approved of Jews´ murders in the Chamber of Deputies today.
"The Catholic Church did not suffer during World War Two, it was one of the biggest allies of Nazi Germany. The Catholic Church approved of the transfers and murders of Jews," Jakubcik said.
He took part in a debate on a draft amendment by some CSSD lawmakers, which extends the deadlines for the assessment of churches´ applications for the return of property to churches confiscated from them by communists and for checking the restitution decisions. The law on restitution took effect in January 2013.
Jakubcik also said the church assisted Nazi criminals when leaving for South America after the war.
Frantisek Laudat (opposition TOP 09/STAN) called on Jakubcik to make an apology.
"Such a social democracy is unacceptable for me," he said.
Government Christian Democrat (KDU-CSL) deputies Ludvik Hovorka and Jaroslav Klaska said Jakubcik´s statement is unfortunate and ill-advised.
Former justice minister Pavel Blazek (opposition Civic Democrats, ODS) said CSSD chairman and Prime Minister Bohuslav Sobotka also claims Catholic faith.
Based on Jakubcik´s logic, Sobotka professes collaboration with Nazism. "You have two options: either to shoot yourself to death, or vote no confidence in the government," Blazek said.
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Jakubcik said later he has nothing against the current churches which he said suffered under the communist totalitarian regime.He added he was only reacting to some words said in the debate and that what was happening during the war was a "black stain."
Culture Minister Daniel Herman (KDU-CSL), a former priest, said he considers this a sort of apology, but not sufficiently explanatory. He added that Jakubcik´s statements about collaboration do not correspond with historical facts.
Jakubcik made his statements one day after the Chamber of Deputies recommended to President Milos Zeman to award the For Heroism Medal in memoriam to Lidice priest Josef Stemberk whom the Nazis executed together with the other Lidice men on June 10, 1942.
Lidice, central Bohemia, was razed to the ground by the Nazis in retaliation for the killing of Deputy Reichsprotektor of Bohemia and Moravia Reinhard Heydrich by Czechoslovak paratroopers in May 1942. Its male inhabitants were shot dead and women and most children taken to concentration camps. Some children were taken to Germany for re-education.
Autor: ÄŒTK
www.ctk.cz
http://www.ceskenoviny.cz/zpravy/church-collaborated-with-nazis-czech-mp-says-causes-outrage/1093762
Vatican Bank - David Guyatt - 25-06-2014
No surprises there, I think.
All the worst nazis escaped to freedom down the vatican organised Ratlines.
And the Vatican Bank, the IOR, laundered millions of dollars worth of gold and other loot plundered by Anton Pavelic's Croatian Ustashi during WWII, and alarmed that this was going to come out into the open due to a Californian class action lawsuit back in 1999, lodged a diplomatic protest note with the US government to intervene in the lawsuit and nullify it under diplomatic immunity. Which is what happened.
Vatican Bank - Peter Lemkin - 25-06-2014
Quote:Culture Minister Daniel Herman (KDU-CSL), a former priest, said .....that Jakubcik´s statements about collaboration do not correspond with historical facts.
It reminds me of one lecture I was making in the USA. I happened to say 'the USA is the only nation to have used nuclear weapons on civilian populations.' A man jumped up in the audience and loudly shouted 'We did NOT!', and then slowly sank down into his seat as everyone shot him a look as if he was quite insane.... This Czech politician was forced to 'apologize' for stating a truth.