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"Dr. Mary's Monkey" - Albert Doyle - 08-02-2012 I'd have to disagree and say Baker would be a perfect black op researcher exactly because of her unbelievability. In other words she's 'plausibly deniable'. Oschner could run the brainwork and directing side of things. In my opinion Baker is too deep in to it from what she knows, like the Clinton visit, to be making it up. "Dr. Mary's Monkey" - Magda Hassan - 08-02-2012 Adele Edisen Wrote:Jan, Yes! A very good read. History as they don't teach in school. "Dr. Mary's Monkey" - Jan Klimkowski - 08-02-2012 Adele -thank you for your comments and insights. Thank you for your courageous testimony. I regard Harlow as key to understanding the MO, the mentality, of these arrogant men. In a binary moment, the bard Pynchon wrote: Manicheans who see two rockets . . . a good rocket to take us to the stars, an evil rocket for the World's suicide, the two perpetually in struggle... The rocket has to be many things . . . it must survive heresies, and heretics there will be: Gnostics who have been taken in a rush of wind and fire to chambers of the rocket throne. Did these luminaries research schizophrenia to "cure" the condition? Or to learn how to create a schizophrenic? Adele - please take a look at the thread here. Orne. West. Singer. Assorted paedophiles. Claiming scientific and intellectual superiority. Primacy. Cameron's "psychic driving" brutally wiped the brain to create a tabula rasa to enable the implantation of a new psyche, that of the "model citizen". A perfect mind for the world's salvation, a patsy brain for the world's subjugation.... "Dr. Mary's Monkey" - Adele Edisen - 09-02-2012 Jan Klimkowski Wrote:Adele -thank you for your comments and insights. Jan, Thank you! I just finished reading the 4 pages of thread you had recommended. Fantastic, horrifying stuff that sent shivers down my spine. Although I left that Department in the late 1950s, I did get some information about the people there later. Dr. Irv Marcus had gone in to private practice; Dr. Harold Lief and his wife divorced and, get this- he moved into bachelor quarters with Clay Shaw in the French Quarter! Did you ever read THE TERMINAL MAN by Michael Crichton? It's based on a true story of a man with electrodes in his head. That piece of work was done by Frank Erwin, formerly of the Tulane Department of Psychiatry and Neurology. I noticed Dr. Colin Ross' name in one of the postings. He's here in Texas with a clinic of his own. A brief talk by Dr. Ross: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DP9W7qsWtlM You, and others, certainly have done a lot of work on these subjects. Thank you. Adele "Dr. Mary's Monkey" - Peter Lemkin - 09-02-2012 Adele Edisen wrote: Quote:Dr. Harold Lief and his wife divorced and, get this- he moved into bachelor quarters with Clay Shaw in the French Quarter!WOW! Adele! This needs further looking into....took me by surprise and then it is just more of the 'same old, same old...'! I've long asked myself why it is that many of the players in the JFK Assassination also had dabbled in mind-control work or related. Then there is the interesting fact that JFK had dabbled with LSD with Mary Meyer and 'they' knew this [likely via her husband -then estranged - who was spying on her activities with JFK]....very strange! Mary Meyer was murdered [I'm quite sure by the same cabal that did in JFK] to silence her from speaking - and the info on the LSD, for some reason, also needed to be hidden. "Dr. Mary's Monkey" - Adele Edisen - 10-02-2012 Peter Lemkin Wrote:Adele Edisen wrote:Quote:Dr. Harold Lief and his wife divorced and, get this- he moved into bachelor quarters with Clay Shaw in the French Quarter!WOW! Adele! This needs further looking into....took me by surprise and then it is just more of the 'same old, same old...'! Peter, And one thing that Col. Jose Rivera said to me when talking about "it" happenong ("it" referring to the impending JFK assassination) was that "the Director of the International Trade Mart is involved in this." At the time I did not know who that would have been, but in retrospect it only could have been Clay Shaw. Clay Shaw had some very interesting names in his address book. and was involved in an international organization, Permindex. He worked for the CIA, and his death also was mysterious. Adele "Dr. Mary's Monkey" - Peter Lemkin - 10-02-2012 Adele Edisen Wrote:Peter Lemkin Wrote:Adele Edisen wrote:Quote:Dr. Harold Lief and his wife divorced and, get this- he moved into bachelor quarters with Clay Shaw in the French Quarter!WOW! Adele! This needs further looking into....took me by surprise and then it is just more of the 'same old, same old...'! Yes, Shaw/Bertrand was CIA and involved in Permindex and some other groupings. He must have known Rivera and vice versa. He was certainly involved in sheep-dipping Oswald and likely in some ways with those who helped plan the operation and/or the setting up of patsies. His death was suspicious. Garrison was really on track....generally.....but due to massive CIA infiltration of his investigation was derailed and shunted onto side tracks.....so he missed the main one in the confusion. Sad, isn't it, that there has never been a real investigation nor court case since Garrison. Even his was controlled [unbeknown to him]. The other 'investigations' were either total or partial cover-ups and controlled by the very same groupings that killed or covered-up the assassination. Very sad history. Again, the cross-over of mind-control, drug and biological agent testing with the assassination [to me] needs some clearer explanation....although it could be simply chance [it could have been arms people or drug-dealing people or Fed people, but it seems to have been - or had been made to SEEM like it was this grouping. Wheels within wheels within wheels, within......ad infinitum. "Dr. Mary's Monkey" - Jan Klimkowski - 10-02-2012 Adele Edisen Wrote:And one thing that Col. Jose Rivera said to me when talking about "it" happenong ("it" referring to the impending JFK assassination) was that "the Director of the International Trade Mart is involved in this." At the time I did not know who that would have been, but in retrospect it only could have been Clay Shaw. Rivera is certainly provocative. There's a DPF thread on Permindex here. "Dr. Mary's Monkey" - Adele Edisen - 12-02-2012 Peter, Jan, and Everyone, Thank you all for your informatiion and references. The material on Clay Shaw, Permindex, Centro Mondiale, industrial and oil corporations, banks, Wall Street, CIA and other government agencies, may all be somehow linked to the JFK assassination, along with the others in 1960s and even in 1999 (JFK, Jr.). It's a matter of pulling the tangled web apart and following proper leads. Adele "Dr. Mary's Monkey" - Jan Klimkowski - 12-02-2012 Adele Edisen Wrote:[Although I left that Department in the late 1950s, I did get some information about the people there later. Dr. Irv Marcus had gone in to private practice; Dr. Harold Lief and his wife divorced and, get this- he moved into bachelor quarters with Clay Shaw in the French Quarter! Lief was part of the MK-ULTRA nexus, having done work with Orne and being yet another US military shrink. He was also part of the False Memory Syndrome Foundation (FMSF) coverup of crime. See DPF thread here. My emphasis in bold in piece below, which is party written by Alex Constantine: Quote:Freyd, Pamela- Founding executive director Wife of Peter Freyd. Stood by her husband's conclusions that her daughter, Jennifer, was imagining her childhood sexual abuse. Remained head of the FMSF after her husband resigned over the controversy. In the visible world of "scientific" research, as opposed the Dark Side stuff, Lief was one of the world's leading experts on "Inhibited Sexual Desire", and the cure of "sexual dysfunction". So, Lief has a world class background in hypnotic programming, sexual desire, behaviour modification and memory modification. Lief is moving in the circles of Clay Shaw, which presumably means David Ferrie and Lee Harvey Oswald. That is truly intriguing and provocative. |