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Michael Piper and Final Judgment - Charles Drago - 17-11-2012
Mark Stapleton Wrote:Albert Doyle Wrote:What are people afraid of here?
Nice post Albert.
And the answer to your question I highlighted?
The truth of course. They're terrified of it.
There's no other explanation for the irrational hostility to this legitimate research. In saying this I'm assuming that the goal of the research community is to solve this crime.
I'm reminded of the sultan with a thousand wives, none of whom can get pregnant. And the sultan asks, "What's wrong with those women?"
"Albert" my pocked, olive ass!
Michael Piper and Final Judgment - Albert Doyle - 17-11-2012
Phil Dragoo Wrote:Turning to page 41 we see the Jew clue emanates from a DRE-affiliate, an operative of Joannides, so we may have absolute faith in his veracity
Now comes Lansky the chairman of the board who flees to Israeland since we accept the unproven the-mob-did-it we take the top mobster and accuse his bolt hole
Add the hidden secret that the greatest agenda item driving Kennedy was Israel as revealed by sealed correspondence
And the final proof is of course Permindex that hotbed of Mossad activity which apparently figured in the assassination
If there's any doubt, add an ex-congressman relating a western European diplomat who had disastrous experience with the Mossad and Bob's your uncle
And for this, Piper's proponents perform ever funnier parodies of Charlie Chaplain in the bunker
The mass is too stupid to get itturn over the chairs, get up on the tables
Going back to Piper's obsessionall the times I've read Coup, page 41 never nagged at my subconscious
The assumption that since Echevarria was associated with Joannides and DRE that therefore his information can be thrown out is very weak. I pointed-out before that Joannides' exposure of Echevarria at the HSCA could have shown a need to steer him exactly into this dead end by a main insider CIA fixer - Joannides. This went unanswered. I suggest that trying to force Echevarria into this Joannides-directed ruse is only to reinforce Joannides' very own intention of steering Echevarria away from his real backers. Phil tried to say that the very fact Joannides broached Echevarria at HSCA showed he wasn't anything to worry about. I say just the opposite, that Echevarria was so dangerous that they needed an unsuspected insider to steer Echevarria towards the innocuous cause of Cuban mafia casinos, which, if you study Piper, was not necessarily separate from the Israeli cause through Rosenbaum's dirty money laundry that was fed by those casino assets. None of this was answered, yet the same material is entered again. I have to point out that both Joannides and David tried to sheep-dip Echevarria with Cuba.
Lansky fled to a place he felt would protect him exactly because of the affiliations and service Piper points out. Israel knew Lansky was too much of a liability because he was like the dog that led a grizzly bear back to its master so they sold him out for more fighter jets from the same Military Industrial Complex that killed JFK. They didn't jail Lansky because he was of such service that they couldn't bring themselves to. Besides it would upset the group Lansky served and, like this thread shows, the group that controls any and all politics related to the subject. Lansky was guilty enough to eject from Israel but not enough to jail like every single other major mafia head was. I think I know the only reason he wasn't assassinated himself. Again, anybody who studies this deeply will see this rises far above any "mafia-did-it" reductions.
None of this even scratches the more than obvious evidence Piper shows for strong Israeli facilitation as is evidenced in Echevarria's comment.
Michael Piper and Final Judgment - Charles Drago - 17-11-2012
ATTENTION: ALL posts by "Albert Doyle" must be treated as the work of at least two individuals posting over the "Doyle" signature. Detailed vidence for this phenomenon is presented on the "JFK thread worth reading" post here:
https://deeppoliticsforum.com/forums...-worth-reading
A forensic examination of "Albert Doyle" posts from multiple threads is underway. Results will be published soon.
Until then, fail to ignore the "Albert Doyle" entity at your peril.
Michael Piper and Final Judgment - Albert Doyle - 17-11-2012
Charles Drago Wrote:ATTENTION: ALL posts by "Albert Doyle" must be treated as the work of at least two individuals posting over the "Doyle" signature. Detailed vidence for this phenomenon is presented on the "JFK thread worth reading" post here:
https://deeppoliticsforum.com/forums...-worth-reading
A forensic examination of "Albert Doyle" posts from multiple threads is underway. Results will be published soon.
Until then, fail to ignore the "Albert Doyle" entity at your peril.
Since I know for certain that I'm the only person posting in my posts this silly ridiculousness can be taken for the desperation to avoid Piper that it is. What this is being used for is to avoid recognition that no serious attempt to discuss Piper was ever made. After posting for 2 years on this site this bizarre issue arose only after I discussed Israel's role in the assassination.
I have to point out who the imaginary "dangling participle" Fetzers with their 'distinctive loops' are here.
I noticed DiEugenio never challenged Piper to a public debate.
Michael Piper and Final Judgment - Mark Stapleton - 17-11-2012
Charles Drago Wrote:ATTENTION: ALL posts by "Albert Doyle" must be treated as the work of at least two individuals posting over the "Doyle" signature. Detailed vidence for this phenomenon is presented on the "JFK thread worth reading" post here:
https://deeppoliticsforum.com/forums...-worth-reading
A forensic examination of "Albert Doyle" posts from multiple threads is underway. Results will be published soon.
Until then, fail to ignore the "Albert Doyle" entity at your peril.
You've slipped over the edge Charles.
Michael Piper and Final Judgment - Charles Drago - 17-11-2012
Mark Stapleton Wrote:Charles Drago Wrote:ATTENTION: ALL posts by "Albert Doyle" must be treated as the work of at least two individuals posting over the "Doyle" signature. Detailed vidence for this phenomenon is presented on the "JFK thread worth reading" post here:
https://deeppoliticsforum.com/forums...-worth-reading
A forensic examination of "Albert Doyle" posts from multiple threads is underway. Results will be published soon.
Until then, fail to ignore the "Albert Doyle" entity at your peril.
You've slipped over the edge Charles.
Can a Ben Gurion breakdown be looming?
Will I have to pay the Piper?
Have I gone to the "Doyle" well once too often?
Was I unwise to go "Al" in?
Time will tell ...
Michael Piper and Final Judgment - David Josephs - 17-11-2012
Albert Doyle Wrote:David Josephs Wrote:
In any case, Miss Pease also rushes to assure her readers that she has found no evidence to support the
theory that Angleton was "controlled" by the Mossad, despite her suggestion
that other un-named writers have asserted as much. In fact, as readers of Final
Judgment know well, no such assertion is made in this book. Quite the contrary,
Angleton was a Mossad loyalist. No "control" was necessary.
David has a frustrating penchant for entering material that more or less backs Piper while applying an opposite interpretation to it. Most of what he enters doesn't really answer the point that is being made.
Precisely "AL"... These are Piper's words to be read and understood...
As I've asked you repeatedly to post any passage that confirms his thesis... yet still you remain silent.
The PREFACE of his booko might be a great place to find the MEAT, a morsel that makes you want to read on...
The most telling of his comments is that the majority of his book is a paraphrase of other books in which he uses his Israeli Xray vision
to fine the words between the words supporting his conclusions.
I could care less if you were 6 members of the mormon tabernacle choir each typing alternating words for each post...
The arguments are poor, the support non-existent and the thesis woefully inadequate for the evidence.
Can you post a passage that is not ambiguous and does not dismiss the anti-facist focus of Permindex and the use of Gladio?
Cheers
DJ
Michael Piper and Final Judgment - Phil Dragoo - 17-11-2012
Circular reasoning delivered with a side of ad hominem.
Joannides and Echevarria were a famous circus act.
Working without Annette.
Annette once commented that she looks first at the sources.
See also J. Giles Band, "First I Look at the Purse"
First I look at the Hersh
In 771 pages or 48 pages there is no proof
Only allegation meets speculation
Next week:
Jack Ruby, intrepid NKVD officer
"Because Jews have guts"
Michael Piper and Final Judgment - Mark Stapleton - 18-11-2012
Albert Doyle Wrote:None of this even scratches the more than obvious evidence Piper shows for strong Israeli facilitation as is evidenced in Echevarria's comment.
Another piece of evidence highlighting the importance of Echevarria's comment comes from Gary Wean's description of the meeting that took place a few weeks after the assassination between himself and Texas Senator John Tower, with mutual friend Audie Murphy present, from Wean's 1987 book There's a Fish in the Courthouse.
Tower said the assassination was a covert operation designed to frame Castro for an assassination attempt on JFK to justify a retaliatory invasion of Cuba. However, unknown to all involved except for those at the top, the operation was successfully infiltrated and subverted at some point, resulting in a real instead of an attempted assassination.
Which brings us right back to Echevarria's comment.
Michael Piper and Final Judgment - Albert Doyle - 18-11-2012
Some of that would make sense because it would explain why people would be so willing to conspire on such a group basis as obviously occurred. It would also explain the 6th floor shooter and what instructions he was operating under and the stray shot that hit Tague. This would then make a Dal-Tex kill shot more likely. It mirrors the false flag tests and drills that were going on on other similar occasions like 9-11. It would also explain why those who were involved would keep their mouths shut once sucked-in.
I love that title. "Fish in the courthouse". An obvious reference to something stinking.
It's amazing how "no proof" can fit in such an amazingly matching jigsaw puzzle.