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Morales assassins: Bolivia gang "fought in Balkans" - Magda Hassan - 20-04-2009 Jan Klimkowski Wrote:"The last anarchist" - I can see MSM picking up and running with this. Not wrong Jan. The Irish media is claiming theirs was only a boy on a sightseeing holiday probably just staying at the same hotel as the others and having nothing to do with them but maybe had drinks with them earlier that week. Wrong time and place. A normal boy. Poor thing. Apparently some are trying the 'group of young amateur film makers' scenario to see how that fits. Meanwhile...in Reality... his family say he has been sent to Bolivia for 3 months 'training' by the 'security company' he works with in Galway. The other dead and arrested are 'friends' on his Bebo site. He sports a new matching tattoo with some of the others featuring a huge stylized 'SS' Has himself listed as a 'sniper' and 'assassin' on his Bebo page has plenty of pictures of guns and an obvious fascination with things military. He boast of enjoying driving his new BMW in South America. How many 24 year old security guards (and on security guard wages just out of college) have one of those? No film making equipment found but plenty of high end military hardware and explosives and other ordinance. Interestingly, the Irishman's name is rendered as Michael Mathias Goyer in this clip; http://www.budapesttimes.hu/content/view/11706/219/ but his name is Michael Martin Dwyer It may be a mistranslation (aural) as I haven't seen it elsewhere. Just noting it. But Goyer/Geyer is hungarian name. Morales assassins: Bolivia gang "fought in Balkans" - Jan Klimkowski - 20-04-2009 Hmmm - rather astonishingly, the Torygraph has printed an article from a journalist who knew Rozsa Flores in the Balkans which gets quite close to confirming the "Major's" role in executing investigative journalists and the links of his "brigade" to Nazi/Ustasa elements. Quote:My meeting with the man accused of plotting the assassination of Evo Morales http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/southamerica/bolivia/5185198/My-meeting-with-the-man-accused-of-plotting-the-assassination-of-Evo-Morales.html Morales assassins: Bolivia gang "fought in Balkans" - Jan Klimkowski - 20-04-2009 A speculative post. I know of two major BBC figures - one a filmmaker, the other a correspondent - from the so-called "golden age" of broadcasting from the 1950s through to the 1980s whose work is held up as groundbreaking and archetypal. Family members have confirmed to me that these great broadcasters were simultaneously working for British intelligence. A clue lies partly in their movements: they could be found in Hungary in 1956, in Vietnam in the early 1960s, in Czechoslovakia in 1968, in Chile in 1973 etc. Sometimes observing, sometimes perhaps more. There is nothing too surprizing in this. However, intelligence agents themselves will closely examine the physical location of individuals they suspect of being more than they seem. This way of thinking, of analyzing, a person's life throws an interesting glow on the life of Rosza Flores snr. He was, variously, a Hungarian-Austrian, perhaps with some Jewish blood, who was a staunch communist and yet taken under the wing of the French government. So much so that they paid for his studies in Paris, then sent him to Bolivia to conduct ethnographic studies of "the French music of the Andes" in 1952. To recap, in the immediate post-WW2 period with an Iron Curtain dividing Europe, the French govt paid for a young Hungarian-Austrian communist to live in Bolivia and conduct an entirely esoteric anthropological project. At this stage, Bolivia was the favoured destination for the Nazi/Vatican/Paperclip ratlines for those Nazis who were considered useful but who couldn't be sufficiently bleached of their wartime atrocities to work openly in Europe or North America. According to Eduardo Rosza Flores, his ethnographic artist father joined the tiny Bolivian Communist party and was "logistically" involved with Che Guevara, before being expelled from the Bolivian Communist party for his links with the revolutionary guerilla. Guevara did indeed mistrust the Bolivian Communist party, which was oriented towards Moscow rather than Havana. Che was eventually betrayed to a CIA hit squad by Bolivian elements, and his corpse carved up - in an almost ritualistic fashion - in a SMOM hospital. Hmmm. The Rosza Flores family next appear in Chile, in 1973. Officially, they are great supporters of Allende, and have to flee from Generalissimo Pinochet's fascist regime. They reappear in communist Hungary, where young Eduardo receives a military education, and studies at the highly classified Dzerzhinsky Military Academy. For a non-Russian to be educated at the Dzerzhinsky Military Academy was presumably quite an honour. It can be read several ways: as reward for services rendered; in the spirit of keeping one's friends close, and one's enemies even closer. According to young Eduardo, it is around this time that he starts rebelling against communism and Stalinism. However, that doesn't stop him becoming involved with Carlos the Jackal. The official Flores family version claims that his father had worshipped Che Guevara, and the son idolized Carlos. Of course quite who was running the Jackal is a matter of much controversy. Eduardo takes several journalistic jobs, and ends up as a stringer for the BBC at the beginning of the Balkan Wars in 1991. A CIA officer once looked deep into my eyes and hrrumphed: "Young man, 'journalist' is the flimsiest cover in the world." Indeed, Rosza Flores rapidly abandons the pen for the Uzi, and forms a "Croatian International Brigade" which specializes in dirty tricks and seems very keen to obscure its funding and alleged links to arms & drugs deals. I can find no record that Rosza Flores possesses any Croatian blood. However, for services rendered, the butcher Tudjman makes him an honourary Croatian and a "Major" to boot. These services include persistent allegations that he had several potential whistleblowers - including investigative journalists - executed, and then manufactured evidence attempting to blame these murders on the Serbs. A dirty war indeed. Although part way through the horror in the Balkans, this son of a Jew and a Catholic, this communist turned extreme nationalist dog of war, becomes a Muslim. Perhaps it helped in the Balkan drugs and arms smuggling business... Whatever, Rosza Flores soon stars in a notorious anti-Serb propaganda film entitled "Chico". A bit of legend-creating perhaps? He also becomes linked - at a very senior level - with Jobbik, a Hungarian neo-fascist party, which allegedly wants to expel the Roma from Hungary. The Balkan Wars were notorious for their ethnic cleansing. Rather than being sickened by these horrors, it appears that Rosza Flores enthusiastically embraced doctrines of racial hygiene. In Bolivia, he is linked with the Camba Nation - a secessionist movement for the rich, land and mineral owning Croatian & German rulers of Santa Cruz. Camba Nation allegedly possesses a youth wing which has attacked genuinely indigenous peasant Aymara and Quechua movements. Rosza Flores also now advocates National Anarchism - best described as a mystical form of National Socialism with acknowledged influences such as Aleister Crowley and the notorious Chilean diplomat, Miguel Serrano, whose philosophy has been described as "Esoteric Hitlerism". He's also rabidly anti-Zionist (anti-Jew?), further evidence perhaps of increasingly neo-Nazi thinking. And a spokesperson for Opus Dei. After the 2009 ambush, a member of his Bolivian paramilitary group requests help and assistance from the St John of Jerusalem Knights of Malta. Aka the Sovereign Military Order of Malta: the military-intelligence group involved in everything from Gladio to P2. So, when did this family enter the house of mirrors? The Borgesian corridors where nothing is as it seems? Who was first to step through the looking glass? The father or the son? Eduardo Rosza Flores' official biography is almost as tangled and implausible as another plaything of the world's intelligence agencies, one Lee Harvey Oswald. So implausible that he can be claimed, blamed and denied by almost everyone. Like many on DPF I regard Oswald as a patsy who most probably didn't even fire the weapon alleged to be his. However, Oswald was possibly a witting or unwitting part of a broader plot to use a team of highly professional snipers to assassinate JFK. The international team assembled around Eduardo Rosza Flores also included a sniper and other individuals with the range of skills one might expect to find in a professional hit squad. Their targets allegedly included President Evo Morales. Unlike America's Secret Service in Dallas, it appears that the Bolivian Secret Service did an excellent job in detecting an assassination plot and liquidating the would-be murderers before they could conduct their grisly mission. But then Fletcher Prouty tells us the American Secret Service was stood down by those with the power to do so... Morales assassins: Bolivia gang "fought in Balkans" - Magda Hassan - 21-04-2009 There is a likelihood that the security firm the Irishman worked for has a contract to provide 'security' for Shell in Bolivia. Shell companies were recently nationalised by the government. There is little official coming from the company in Ireland. Morales assassins: Bolivia gang "fought in Balkans" - Magda Hassan - 21-04-2009 ![]() I suppose he is just a 'normal' guy if your are a nazi. Michael's new tattoo from his home page. Morales assassins: Bolivia gang "fought in Balkans" - David Guyatt - 21-04-2009 This has been a truly interesting thread Jan, thanks. Opus Dei were deeply involved in the planned breakup of the former Yugoslavia. The concluding chapters of Hutchison’s book on OD (“Thy Kingdom Come”) makes this more than clear. All sorts of OD types were involved in that strategy including one false SMOM “Monsignor” who was also deeply involved in the plundering of the Soviet Union once the Vodka crazed western friendly Yeltsin was put in charge (the plundering was to make sure it could not return to its old “commie” ways I think, but also to relentlessly profiteer as usual). The strange Catholic shrine of Medigorje was also involved in this strategy with some Brits with security company backgrounds engaged in running guns to Croats etc and apparently funded from donations of Catholic pilgrims to said shrine. And any deep investigation into the grounds and surrounds of OD often leads to groups/individuals with a peculiar interest in occult subjects of a Martinist flavour (imo) - for example the so called Sumerian “Watchers” or “Holy Ones”. These connections also extend to the story of the Priory of Sion. Some of those involved in the PoS were also Malta Knights, albeit not the authorized Vatican Order but so called “fake” Orders which are - and have been in the past - very useful deniable operational conduits. And from the PoS we can also easily move over to the subject of, yes, UFO’s and thence to all things referenced by Peter Levenda in his “Sinister Forces” trilogy - including of course mind control. As you say Jan, the fingerprints of nazis and things Thule Gesellschaft - and also the US and UK intell communities are all over this. After all, how better to blur something real and solid than via a bewildering lens of supposedly unreal “crazy” conspiracy subjects as mentioned above. Morales assassins: Bolivia gang "fought in Balkans" - Magda Hassan - 21-04-2009 Croat Tycoon Suspected of Plotting State Coup in Bolivia [/url] [url=http://de-construct.net/e-zine/wp-content/uploads/2009/04/branko-marinkovic.jpg] ![]() Croat Branko Marinkovic, Bolivian tycoon lobbying for dismemberment of Bolivia, assumed leadership of the so-called Civic Committee of Santa Cruz fascists Bolivians Tear Down a Myth of Croat “Homeland War” Branko Marinković, Croat tycoon in Bolivia lobbying for dismemberment of the Latin American state, is suspected of planning and organizing a coup attempt, failed after Bolivian security forces foiled a series of planned assassinations by the group of international mercenary terrorists, lead by Eduardo Rozsa Flores, a neo-Nazi war criminal who commanded the “International Brigade” of worldwide psychopaths within the Croat paramilitary troops during the civil war in former Yugoslavia, in the 1990s. Marinković’s close ties with the current U.S. Ambassador Philip Goldberg, called “Ambassador of Ethnic Cleansing” because of his role in dismemberment of Yugoslavia, are also under investigation by the Bolivian officials. The latest probe into subversive activities of Croat emigration and especially examination of the criminal past and fascist ideology nurtured by the Croat paramilitary troops, including the notorious psychopaths gathered in Croatia’s “International Brigade”, had triggered an uproar of fury in Croatia and in the Croat communities worldwide. Enraged by the unexpected scrutiny of the myth according to which instigation and fomenting of the civil war in former Yugoslavia in 1991, and subsequent genocide against Serbs in Croatia resulting in ethnically clean state, were all legitimate “actions” and part of the “war of liberation”, Croats have launched a veritable lynch campaign against Bolivian government and everyone who dares question the motives of the “defenders” in Croatia’s latest “homeland war”. Consequently, following the latest revelations about the involvement of Croat paramilitaries in the assassination attempts of Bolivian state leadership, Croat Foreign Ministry warned it has instructed its representative in Chile, “who also covers Bolivia”, “to closely follow the situation in Bolivia and if necessary, have talks at the Bolivian Foreign Ministry”. According to Croat media, their government also considers “sending a diplomatic note” to Bolivian state, to urge toning down of the investigation of the true character of all the “wars of liberation” Croatia lead in its short, rather nasty history. ![]() Philip Goldberg, Ambassador of Ethnic Cleansing But just in case the shit does hit the proverbial fan this time around, Croat government announced it is ready to distance itself from the mercenaries and psychos it took under its wing during the civil war in the 1990s — those who have unexpectedly found themselves under the unpleasant limelight of public attention: “However, regardless of who it may be and how much someone deserves credit for the defense of Croatia, the Croatian government cannot be held responsible for the things former defenders are doing at present,” said Jadranka Kosor, minister for veterans and vice president of Croat government. As far as Bolivians are concerned, nothing will succeed in shutting the floodgates: neither the violent knee-jerk reactions and “warnings” coming from nervous Croats, nor the pressure campaign orchestrated by the Western mainstream media eager to cover up the background of the recent events and shield the key figures involved in a failed coup attempt by portraying Bolivian President Evo Morales as a kook who invented the foiled plot and smearing Bolivian government by suggesting the three hired assassins were killed in cold blood. Croat Tycoon and US Ambassador of Ethnic Cleansing According to Bolivian media, neo-Nazi mercenaries who have plotted assassination of a number of Bolivian officials (including some opposition leaders) in an attempt to create chaos in Bolivia akin to the one used to dismember former Yugoslavia and tear the country apart, were in all probability hired by “Don Marinković”, tycoon of Croat nationality who lobbies against the state’s socialist government and leads the separatist movement in Santa Cruz, advocating secession of the richest Bolivian provinces. ![]() Marinkovic’s supporters drive around Santa Cruz sporting fascist insignia while advocating secession of Bolivian richest provinces According to earlier reports, Marinković has close ties with the current U.S. ambassador in Bolivia Philip Goldberg, who was instrumental in fomenting separatist movements in former Yugoslavia. A year ago, reporter Roberto Bardini offered less known, but entirely illuminating details about Goldberg’s long history of subversive activities and his connections with the main secessionist in Bolivia, Croat Branko Marinković. “In the Bolivian diplomatic world, as an expert pusher of separatism, Philip Goldberg’s nickname is ‘the Ambassador of Ethnic Cleansing.’ Between 1994 and 1996 he was Special Assistant to Ambassador Richard Holbrooke, one of the strategists behind Yugoslavian disintegration. He also promoted Serbia’s and Montenegro’s separation and was in Kosovo, where he fomented conflict between Serbian and Albanian forces,” Bardini wrote. Balkanization of Bolivia ![]() Bolivian cartoon comment of the illegal “referendum” Marinkovic staged for dismemberment of Bolivian state Marinković, whose parents fled to South America after WWII since his father Silvio supported Croat fascists (Ustasha), is accused of becoming one of Bolivia’s richest men through plunder and illegal land grabs in areas inhabited by Guarayo Indians. According to Bolivian media, Marinković and his compatriots living in Bolivia are trying to break up that country in the same way Croat secessionists have dismembered Yugoslavia in the 1990s. Marinković is accused of seeking to foment a civil war to create a breakaway country in the lowlands, exactly like Tudjman, aided by the Ustasha emigration, Germany and Vatican, has done in former Yugoslavia. Even though Marinković vehemently denies these allegations, the New York Times quoted his direct threats of instigating a civil war in Bolivia, unless his separatist goal is supported and aided by the “international community” (presumably the same Berlin-Washington-London “international community” that supported violent dismemberment of Yugoslavia). “If there is no legitimate international mediation in our crisis, there is going to be confrontation. And unfortunately, it is going to be bloody and painful for all Bolivians,” Marinković growled. Pro-Ustasha Mercenary Terrorists Recruited from Montenegro Simon Romero, chief New York Times correspondent from Bolivia, told Croat media that Bolivian reporters are investigating rumors the Croat oligarch was bringing pro-Ustasha mercenaries from Montenegro, a legal gray zone in the Balkans, regarded a safe-haven for smugglers and all types of criminals in the region, under the protection of Prime Minister Milo Djukanovic, local mafia boss charged by the Italian prosecution for involvement in large scale smuggling operations since the 1990s. On Friday, Bolivian security forces shot three and arrested two terrorists belonging to the group of neo-Nazi assassins plotting to behead Bolivian state leadership. According to Bolivian police chief Victor Hugo Escobar, it was established the leader of the gang of terrorists planning to assassinate President Evo Morales among others, was Eduardo Rozsa Flores, a Spanish-Hungarian national who commanded the “International Brigade” within the infamous Croat paramilitary Zenga units, responsible for horrific atrocities and ethnic cleansing of Serbian population from their ancestral land in Slavonia and Serbian Krajina in Croatia during the 1990s. Flores was also accused of smuggling weapons and narcotics, as well as of killing a Swiss and British reporter who worked for the German EPA news agency and were investigating ties of the mercenaries in the Croat paramilitary troops with the Western fascist groups. Of the two arrested terrorists, Croat Mario F. Tadic (58) also took part in Tudjman’s war against indigenous Serbian population. http://de-construct.net/e-zine/?p=5606 Morales assassins: Bolivia gang "fought in Balkans" - Magda Hassan - 21-04-2009 The Ambassador of Ethnic Cleansing May 3, 2008 ![]() A couple of years ago on Cuban TV there was a cartoon that mocked the U.S. transition planned for Cuba. It showed a U.S. soldier guarding the door of a school while a line of children passed by, hoping to enter. As they passed, he pointed to them one by one, saying “You, and you, and you,” and when the black kid came, “not you.” Why does that occur to Machetera now? Oh, no particular reason. A Bad Time for “Innocent Mistakes” Roberto Bardini - Tinku Translation: Machetera Last June 28th, the 20 year old U.S. citizen Donna Thi, from Miami, was detained at the airport in La Paz, for trying to bring in five hundred 45-caliber bullets which she’d declared as “cheese” to customs. Waiting for her in the terminal was the wife of Colonel James Campbell, the head of the military section at the U.S. embassy in Bolivia. The North American Ambassador, Philip Goldberg, intervened immediately to obtain the woman’s release and said that it was all “an innocent mistake.” The ammunition, he said, was meant for “sport and entertainment.” Bolivia’s Director of Migration, Magaly Zegarra, did not hold the same opinion as the Ambassador. According to her, “the fact that a North American citizen, related to the embassy, is carrying ammunition on a North American aircraft coming from Miami, a city where terrorists from all over Latin America are protected by the government, especially their teacher, as Posada is called by the terrorists, and make a mockery of all [justice] mechanisms, is questionable.” These days, immigration agents and Bolivian police are careful with passengers coming from the United States. In March of 2006, another U.S. citizen, Triston Jay Amero, a.k.a. Lestat Claudius, a 25 year old Californian carrying 15 different identity documents, set off 300 kilos of dynamite in two hotels in La Paz. And on December 8th of this year, when the Summit of the South American Community of Nations was held in Cochabamba, security services uncovered the presence of two fake U.S. journalists photographing presidential vehicles. In the Bolivian diplomatic world, as an expert pusher of separatism, Philip Goldberg’s nickname is “the Ambassador of Ethnic Cleansing.” Between 1994 and 1996 he was Special Assistant to Ambassador Richard Holbrooke, one of the strategists behind Yugoslavian disintegration. He also promoted Serbia’s and Montenegro’s separation and was in Kosovo, where he fomented conflict between Serbian and Albanian forces. One of the autonomy ringleaders [in Bolivia] is the Croatian landowner Branco Marinkovic, a supporter of a Free Trade Agreement with the U.S., a member of the Federation of Private Entrepreneurs of Santa Cruz, the Bank, and the Chamber of Commerce. Marinkovic is also a shareholder in the company that controls the transport of natural gas (Transporte de Hidrocarburos Transredes), which is 50% owned by Enron and Shell and operates gas and oil pipelines over 6,000 kilometers that stretch to Argentina, Brazil and Chile. The actions of the United States, which pulls all the strings of dirty war and destabilization, continue unabated. The situation is further aggravated when Philip Goldberg, a well-known stoker of the fires of separatism and fratricidal warfare, is sent to a country as the U.S. ambassador. The groundwork had already been well prepared by his predecessor, the ex-Ambassador David N. Greenlee, whose history over two periods in Bolivia was hallmarked by interference, impunity and criminal activity. Goldberg, recognized as an expert in stoking ethnic or racial conflicts and his experience in Bosnia’s ethnic struggles preceding the breakup of the former Yugoslavia, would be key in Bolivia. No-one doubted that his hand was behind the intense separatist process happening in Santa Cruz de la Sierra, a propitious setting for his government’s plans, with exacerbated elements of racism and hatred against the indigenous population, and prevalent slavery that formed the basis of dictatorship and neoliberal impositions; finally defeated by the Bolivian people in recent years, through a heroic struggle. In the past, Goldberg worked in the U.S. State Department, on Haiti, among other countries, as well as South Africa, Colombia and Paraguay. After serving as Deputy Chief of Mission in Santiago de Chile between 2001 and 2004, Goldberg went once more to the Balkans to head the Kosovo mission, where he worked until 2006 to break away Serbia and Montenegro. When he arrived in Bolivia, the Croatian businessmen (his friends) settled in Santa Cruz, had already put together the movement “Nación Camba,” one of whose main leaders - with business ties in Chile and other countries - Branco Marinkovic, ended up leading the local Civic Committee, the foremost promoter of destabilization, with a strong influence throughout the rest of the Media Luna, where the country’s greatest natural resources are concentrated. The ambassador did not hide his support for the businessmen who sought an unusual governmental autonomy for Santa Cruz de la Sierra, Beni, Pando and Tarija, in the country’s eastern portion. Known as the “media luna,” [for its roughly crescent shape] these four departments total 685,095 square kilometers, more than half of Bolivia’s surface area. The majority of natural gas, agribusiness and ranching is found here, and accounts for half of foreign investment. Last year, President Morales denounced the conspiracy by the United States and the oligarchy in his country against his government, during the Seventeenth Ibero-American Summit in Santiago de Chile. He also said that the “most plausible theory about the identity of the promoters of this initiative, leads to industrialists and landowners, acting with the support of various politicians from the departments of Santa Cruz, Beni and Pando.” The correlation through the meetings of Bolivian putschists and Spain’s Popular Party, in support of a “dirty war” was laid bare. He also denounced the support of fascist Spaniards and other Europeans for the conspiracy, under the obvious leadership of Spain’s ex-president José María Aznar. There were also serious denunciations supported by concrete data about the participation of the United States Agency for International Development (USAID) and the National Endowment for Democracy (NED), according to data from Bolivia’s intelligence services and other analysts, of the putschist plans. Millions of dollars were allocated to all kinds of organizations, including student groups, journalists, political parties, intellectuals, businessmen and others, with the precise objective of derailing the Constituent Assembly. Shock troops, promoted confrontations, autonomy movements, “civic” strikes, permanent mobilizations in the country’s seven regions, street violence, and others would be used to overthrow the government. A coup in Bolivia is crucial for George W. Bush’s government, in light of his defeat in Iraq after five years of sowing terror (and more than a million deaths) in that country, and the extremely serious economic situation in the United States during an election year. The protagonists in the new counter-insurgency who are pushing for an internal confrontation and external intervention are well-covered in the majority of the mass media. Machetera is a member of [B]Tlaxcala, the network of translators for linguistic diversity[/B]. This translation may be reprinted as long as the content remains unaltered, and the source, author, and translator are cited. Morales assassins: Bolivia gang "fought in Balkans" - Jan Klimkowski - 21-04-2009 Magda & David - excellent posts. MSM is running a mile from the starkly obvious truth here. I suspect the spinmeisters know there are so many skeletons in this cupboard that they're struggling to impose a coherent MSM narrative. And therefore the story will be ignored until the financial elites decide it's time to claim Bolivia's natural resources for themselves. It's good to know that Evo Morales has a loyal Secret Service protecting him from neo-Nazi murderers. As an indigenous Aymara, he knows all about Nazis in Bolivia. He's old enough to remember the openly Swastika flag-waving scum of the "Cocaine coup" with Klaus Barbie's "Thule Lodge" and other noteworthy backers. The image above of the Swastika-daubed car is business as usual for the foreigners who would loot Bolivia. Yes. Business as usual. Quote:A Nazi Reunion http://www.consortiumnews.com/archive/moon6.html Morales assassins: Bolivia gang "fought in Balkans" - Jan Klimkowski - 21-04-2009 I do heartily recommend that DPF cognoscenti of arcane Farrellian lore indulge themselves in viewing "Troy Southgate's" National Anarchist rosenoire site: http://www.rosenoire.org/ Um - that looks like a stylized.... um.... BLACK SUN. Nah. They wouldn't be so brazen would they? :ciao: |