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Coup Underway in Turkey - Peter Lemkin - 20-07-2016 There is NO way these people fired and arrested could all [or even most] have in any way been involved in the coup.....a lot of revenge housecleaning going on based on political preference or point of view. How could every head of every higher educational institution just happen to be involved in the coup plot - or even sympathetic to it?! Quote:Along with thousands from the police and military: Quote:The dismissals touched many branches of government: Erdogan seems to have set up an instant dictatorship.......[just add a 'coup' and stir] (In fact, Erdogan had widely been called a dictator prior. He had increasingly attacked and arrested opposition press and commentators, and it has long been illegal to publicly criticize Erdogan......) Coup Underway in Turkey - Danny Jarman - 20-07-2016 Guelen has set up many schools and madrasas in central Asia and the caucuses which is where, coincidentally of course, most of the ISIS fighters come from. Anyway I totally trust Sibel's judgement and don't doubt her theory. What I would like to know though is why and at what point Turkey and Russia became friendly, I remember one week Putin was calling Erdogan a dictator and the next, they were planning to meet each other and extend co-operation. I wonder what made this shift? Coup Underway in Turkey - Magda Hassan - 20-07-2016 Well, he did apologise for shooting down the plane. But did not go so far as compensation to the family. Looking at it from Putin's point of view there are pipelines to build and NATO to weaken. So big gains. Plus Erdogan seems to be persona non grata at NATO and EU forums now. So looking for some shelter. Coup Underway in Turkey - David Guyatt - 20-07-2016 Magda Hassan Wrote:Well, he did apologise for shooting down the plane. But did not go so far as compensation to the family. Looking at it from Putin's point of view there are pipelines to build and NATO to weaken. So big gains. Plus Erdogan seems to be persona non grata at NATO and EU forums now. So looking for some shelter. Yes, I rather suspect there were well concealed and informal discussions prior to the letter of apology being sent. Coup Underway in Turkey - Magda Hassan - 20-07-2016 The US have received a request for Gulen's extradition. Coup Underway in Turkey - Magda Hassan - 20-07-2016 From WikiLeaks Turkey email leak. "ISIL (ISIS, Daesh) fighters in Afghanistan are Really CIA and MI6 Thugs" "intelligence agencies are profiting from this drug trafficking too. It has been reported that the mercenaries and the Afghan thugs/fighters are protecting the drug processing facilities and the drug trafficking." Vertical integration. https://wikileaks.org/akp-emails/emailid/9841https://wikileaks.org/akp-emails/emailid/9841 Quote: Coup Underway in Turkey - Michael Barwell - 20-07-2016 Yeah, I've had & get refs to all that stuff, thugs, drugs an' etc. . For the last week/10days I've been getting "10/ten" refs; this Palestinian lad beheaded by Camerons "moderate anti-Assad types" was around 10yrs old, so I gather; wonder when that one happened. When I was at 6th From, we went on a college jolly to London (science museum) & had some free-time; my pal & I went to see the PLO to pledge sympathy. The shitehounds know this 'course, thru' the 3yrs of chatlogs with 'Ben'-bo. I get 'alot' of 'Palestinian' refs, and Gaza, and oodleseroony o' "Israel". Coup Underway in Turkey - Peter Lemkin - 20-07-2016 More and more progressive Turks are talking of leaving Turkey for now, if not permanently. While most of these at this time are well educated and can likely fit in in Europe or where they go, if the average Turks try to leave and flood Europe to get away from a growing dictatorship, look for BIG problems in Europe, reacting to a new flood of refugees. Well over 60.000 now arrested or have lost their jobs....no coup is ever that big...these are Stalin-like purges of ideological opponents and suspected opponents. I don't know how one makes a logical argument [one can't] for the forced resignation of EVERY single higher education dean throughout Turkey. Specific instructors were also fired from lists long ago drawn up [pre-coup]. I think the existence of these lists is very sinister and interesting. All opposition media have been closed. This 'house cleaning' will surely continue. At what point will the Turkish public start to object publicly. They are very quietly privately, but are even afraid now to Tweet or post on internet sites their opposition to what is going on - yet. Coup Underway in Turkey - Drew Phipps - 20-07-2016 Madga: My browser is reporting that your link is unsafe. Coup Underway in Turkey - Peter Lemkin - 20-07-2016 Drew Phipps Wrote:Madga: My browser is reporting that your link is unsafe. this is an online searchable link that doesn't report any problems on my computer... https://wikileaks.org/akp-emails/ a quick look shows most are in Turkish...a few have English text...so this will take someone like Edmonds to review them and pull out the important ones...unless one wants to take hundreds and put them in google-translate and hope you get something interesting. I looked at some in English, but nothing yet looked of any special interest....but there are many there! and many labeled 'Secret' [all in Turkish]. This one I chose randomly was labelled TOP SECRET and translates as follows via google:::pullhairout:: Quote:Thunderstorms Bey Constitutional Court the authority will discuss the merits of the constitutional amendments are also said trying to boÅŸatıp dutut and what insulation your constitutional article also on the demolished after continued shamelessly to even lie vekendi decency and a lot of injustice as a person utnamz claiming to be a sense of shame, you going down the more savunduk by. See you this promise lies and slander still persist and insist. Ismet Berkan, after he emerged still more deceived. You say. Because persistence and insist that you are lying on. No Ismet Berkan he did not say anything, you're still lying and distortion. Ismat, was that de Berk's. He said the incident I personally saw. I wrote this to me. There are so many distortions and lies with correspondent moreover Turkish officers of our people, a person like you that there is a doctor dressed in uniform and our military, shame from the humiliation of being the cause, and therefore false and fraudulent personnel What else from the army's honor and dignity than to liquidate treason case falls Do you know tell me that you know works? I think tried to lie with the officers identity is no place for such liars and crooks in our army saying if you're retired, you rebuilt as military sooner taken back your rank, because of from the army that you do not deserve to be members of the army staff, our experienced this shame in jobs like cleaning the toilets must have completed your military service. Also see your current word .: In your logic, why would he lie Tansu ÇölaÅŸan? I have also heard of women. Others we have also heard. So do Tansu be heard but can not be heard ÇölaÅŸan others? Another example lies and distortions to your quest. We hear those who judge wounded kurtut In one meeting in the same room in which the victim was killed with bullets rained down on them. Emin Colasan's husband Tansu ÇölaÅŸan is a completely different scenario from the room assigned to that section and then released in the witness that one of the actors used to say I was close to me in that room. Your mind and not sooner. And in this way he collected on the same day to repair all the damaged camera TUBITAK-a decision that was taken by the courts and reflected deleted records of a large organization. Everything is very comprehensive international organizer's plan was enforcement by local actors so serious the government drop for the Council of State murder the most prepared to the smallest detail even murdered judge's Kocatepe at the funeral of the mosque also set up the team forced the resignation of beating members of the Government, however, that at the head and you do not follow Do you know the due or knew you were trying to show different with a pack of lies even continue your empty and imaginary words and that you say, keeps your bullshit and you say Well you look: and the killer throughout this last year backed performed, victims blame had expected the government's. AKP and Fitnebaz Community (The Sinister Fraternity), prosecutors, members of the police did not tamper with this job, and why is it that they tamper tampering? It did not result you might think. answer: I explain you do the main law debate. Emin Colasan colonial Turkish courts attached to the governor of one of the protected Ãstabul Duchy of collusion with the crypto team can not judge. The State Council of the untouchables of government projects to reduce crime. So my wife must be in the same way even if the EDA under protection of the State Council was brought to the prosecutor's office immediately. Judgment of the Supreme court as came to an authority that can be made by the constitutional court but crypto that is there in the position can not be tried for the main law mahkemesiÅŸn tasks and I sent the authority of Article 1 under the second paragraph of attention ediniz.bura to As he says on alıyorum.ora first paragrafıil together. * In addition, by a duly put into effect the international treaties have the force of law, too, about them can not be appealed to the Constitutional Court * * grounds that they are contrary to the Constitution (Article 90). * So if they open or secret agreements the force of law even if we handled the Constitutional Court as Turkish law can not be judged . What this means. Turkey and the government deficit or collusion can not move the court. I add back the original short way to the mine. It would come to my mind everything I have come to give lectures on the military as high-ranking international agreements give the course a constitutional officer. I ran into an officer to fraud by false debate within the army instead of doing their own research on your way and of course I would not have had to come at all. * Http: //www.anayasa.gov.tr/hakkinda/gorevler/ <http://www.anayasa.gov.tr/hakkinda/gorevler/> * Look how much crap you ovulating passed over the years of this event. Tansu Ciller and business developments that suggest a single rotation against, not discovery. On the contrary, it became clear that the killers. Moreover, during this last year backed killers performed, victims of the government's accusations had expected. I'll tell you what. I Alsana gave former Prime Minister Tansu Chiller brother I can say whether the former prime minister Tansu Ciller Have you rather I shut the Tansu ÇölaÅŸan. Anyway, I leave it to the confusion in you. As for my age would not only çarpıtmac and a liar, you seem to be the father of both senile old fool. They also bakındah also continue to question what's going on. AKP and Fitnebaz Community (The Sinister Fraternity), prosecutors, members of the police did not tamper with this job, and why is it that they tamper tampering? It did not result you might think. You say. I bet above it. The Council of State chief prosecutor made, only trial in the Constitutional Court. In the main law shall be tried by Court of secret agreements that bind her hands. Other prosecutors and the courts can not do anything. Yet you continue to keep your ridiculous inconsistent with idiia. Let's look at what you are currently in. On the contrary, in my opinion, is that direction. * The community I say, and I was planning RTE this work together. * Both AdIrdIlAr was capable of doing it, and they benefit from doing so. Answer: At that time, had not yet strong enough Congregation current staffing. The government was in a situation such as scapegoat literally. Sezer had the Cankaya Palace. Around the state and the constitutional court of the mind almost as boss and mentor Sabiha Kanadog she had a retired veteran and retired chief prosecutor of the Republic. Government soldiers cut away the front will be reduced every day judged as prime minister as he was expected to meander. It's a pack of lies and distortions from after you've slashed a threat. Look what you say. Time is the best reagent. See how they handle will handle dumped every day. You're late again, you will see a little more time. Let's see what you say when it comes days. I say the days when the Supreme Court is established. Thunderstorms POYRAZ still do not care about your nose hairs. Turkey itself is not the only change the world balance and will end the collusion, to end the immunity of hidden colonial cadres going 2023. If the Supreme Court will be established, as has always been the supreme court were chosen as they had established national will still be established for the prosecution of those who continue to defy the nation disrespect your case. As a Deist, but do not know how to pray, but also wish to ensure you make the inner peace times pull a sponge on the former government aims to continue peace. Or if you still continue to threaten the nation to its end it would be quite a few difficulties. Insider tip. >> Really regrettable. >> Is nkavc |