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Guido Preparata's website - R.K. Locke - 20-05-2014

David Guyatt Wrote:
R.K. Locke Wrote:Does anyone find the claim that Alan Dulles wanted to destroy the British Empire credible?

It is completely credible. The War and Peace Studies Group of the Council on Foreign Relations made the dismantling of the British Empire a key aim. One reason, I suppose why this study is still not available for public scrutiny. This study ran from 1939-45 and Dulles "led" the Armaments Group.

Shoup & MInter's Imperial Brain Trust - The Council on Foreign Relations and United States Foreign Policy is the key available book here, for it shows, in brief, what the War & Peace Studies Group ambitions were. The British Empire had to be dismantled in order for the new American Empire to arise.

Historically, it had been the ambition of the Rhodes-Milner Kintergarden to extend and develop the British Empire to become the global dominating force. But Rhodes eventually understood that this was not possible without the USA - and they wouldn't play that game. Instead they wanted to be the governing empire themselves. Rhodes ultimately decided that Great Britain would throw it's lot in with the USA and proceed with the original plan with Britain becoming the junior partner.

It is also worth bearing in mind that the CFR was the sister organization of Chatham House (Royal Institute of International Affairs), itself a creation of the Rhodes "Group". The RIIA was founded in 1919 during the Paris peace conference where, co-incidentally, the Dulles brothers were both present and plied their trade.

In short, this is the New World Order.

PS, I have linked a brief synopsis of the RIIA/CFR nexus above (Chatham House) by the CorbetT Report, which is worth reading.


David, thanks for the interesting and thoughtful reply. I think what I found curious about Fursov's statement was more the insinuation that Dulles was out to destroy the British Empire rather than simply to reconfigure it in America's image. Perhaps this is just an issue of semantics? The impression that it gave was of a schism between the British elite and their counterparts in America when all indications are that this transfer of power* was part of the plan all along (or at least, from the period soon after Rhodes died.)

* By this I of course mean the superficial transfer of a power that had in fact been transnational in its dimensions for centuries previously.


In regards to The Jewish Question, well, I would very much like to see this discussed, but I understand perfectly well why people are reticent to do so. It's difficult to even discuss Israel's dreadful treatment of the Palestinians without being smeared as anti-Semitic in the current climate, so it's little surprise that a subject like this is virtually untouchable in public discourse, no matter how innocent your intentions may be.


Guido Preparata's website - Paul Rigby - 11-06-2014

http://nazbol.net/library/authors/Guido%20Preparata/Conjuring%20Hitler%20-%20How%20Britain%20and%20America%20made%20the%20Third%20Reich.pdf


Guido Preparata's website - Drew Phipps - 11-06-2014

Perhaps this quote from "The Book on Bush" by Eric Alterman and Mark Green (2004) might be an interesting place to start discussion of a limited Israel-related topic:

(Spoiler alert: This book is highly critical of George W. Bush.)

(Italics indicate material I added for clarity, bold I added for emphasis)

(quote begins on page 273, concerning the justification of the war on Iraq)

"Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld went so far as to create his own intelligence unit within the Pentagon - one that would likely give him the answers he wished to hear rather than those that the professionals believed were warranted by the evidence. This office, self-mockingly termed "the Cabal," was located inside the Pentagon's Office of Special Plans (OSP). Originally a two-person operation, it soon ballooned to eighteen and relieved heavily upon information provided by ... Ahmad Chalabi, the Iraqi National Congress (INC), and a group of still-unnamed Israelis. ... Chalabi, despite a history that included a conviction for the embezzlement of millions of dollars in Jordan...was the person chosen by the Defense Department to be (Iraq's) new leader, if only everything had gone according to plan. During his decades in exile (from Iraq) he had gotten to know, and reportedly impressed, not only Rumsfeld but also Wolfowitz, Feith, Libby, ...James R. Woolsey, ... (and) Richard Perle.

After the war, an inquiry... found that the OSP refused [page 274] to share its information "with established intelligence agencies" [and this information] in numerous instances was passed on to the National Security Council and the President without having been vetted with anyone other than political appointees." Continuing the decades-long relationship between Perle and Feith on the one hand and Israel's Likud party on the other, it also passed information to and from a similarly ad hoc operation inside Ariel Sharon's office, designed, analogously to the OSP, to bypass the experts in the Mossad and provide the (from context: Likud) administration the kind of alarmist information that did not pass professional muster. ... (D)uring... the outbreak of questioning regarding the (forged) Niger nuclear documents (the yellowcake uranium story), Republicans beat back... congressional... inquiry on the misuse of the intelligence process to justify war."

(Quote ends)

So, what was the organization in Sharon's office called, that was analogous to Rumsfeld's "Cabal"? Who were its participants? What was their "decades long connection" to Perle and Feith? Were these the same "un-named Israelis" that provided unvetted information to Rumsfeld, the NSC, and the President? What links, if any, can we find between these Israelis, and other people and events connected to 9/11?


Guido Preparata's website - Lauren Johnson - 11-06-2014

Thanks for the post. Apparently my paper copy was conjured never to be found.


Guido Preparata's website - Magda Hassan - 11-06-2014

Paul Rigby Wrote:http://nazbol.net/library/authors/Guido%20Preparata/Conjuring%20Hitler%20-%20How%20Britain%20and%20America%20made%20the%20Third%20Reich.pdf

Excellent! I have no idea where my hard copy has gone too. A mysterious conjuring trick indeed.


Guido Preparata's website - Paul Rigby - 13-06-2014

Truth Is A Lonely Warrior - James Perloff interviewed:

[video=youtube_share;rt6dth535m4]http://youtu.be/rt6dth535m4[/video]

http://www.amazon.com/Truth-Lonely-Warrior-James-Perloff/dp/0966816021/


Guido Preparata's website - Lauren Johnson - 13-06-2014

Paul Rigby Wrote:Truth Is A Lonely Warrior - James Perloff interviewed:

[video=youtube_share;rt6dth535m4]http://youtu.be/rt6dth535m4[/video]

http://www.amazon.com/Truth-Lonely-Warrior-James-Perloff/dp/0966816021/

The Protocols of the Elders of Zion? Ufda.

EDIT: The Rapture? Ufda.


Guido Preparata's website - Paul Rigby - 13-06-2014

Lauren Johnson Wrote:
Paul Rigby Wrote:Truth Is A Lonely Warrior - James Perloff interviewed:

[video=youtube_share;rt6dth535m4]http://youtu.be/rt6dth535m4[/video]

http://www.amazon.com/Truth-Lonely-Warrior-James-Perloff/dp/0966816021/

The Protocols of the Elders of Zion? Ufda.

EDIT: The Rapture? Ufda.

I should have explained: at 12 mins 30 secs - or thereabouts - Perloff places a very precise figure on the amount Kuhn & Loeb placed at Trotsky's disposal. I can't recall hearing and/or seeing a figure that large before. Compare and contrast with the amount offered by Nikolay Starikov in the following, rather spiffing, extract:

Quote:Trotsky was a different story. At that same time in February, he was in faraway America, where, in his own words, he was doing nothing. Trotsky's profession was to be a professional revolutionary. Apparently this sort of work pays extremely well, as Trotsky returned to the Motherland with $10,000 in his pockets. Today, now that the ole' greenbacks have devalued considerably, this amount seems laughable, but at the turn of the century American currency was a force. Therefore, in present-day terms this amount was worth 20-30 times as much and this was just what he had tucked in his pocket, mind you. For incidentals, so to speak. The main funding supplied to the Russian Revolution from American bankers was transferred through accounts in neutral Sweden and briefcases of inconspicuous figures stealthily entering the country. No one disputes that Vladimir Lenin was brought home in the "closed wagon" with a bulging suitcase full of cash. No, it is an indisputable fact that the Bolsheviks were swimming in money. Who gave it to them? The Germans? Partly, but it should be understood that a substantial part of Lenin's "German" money originated from American loans given out to German government. Just like Lenin, Trotsky was connected to some dark circles and had relationships with various intelligence agencies. Having returned to their homeland, Trotsky and Lenin quickly teamed up, instantly forgetting their past enmity. It should be noted that Trotsky joined the Bolshevik Party only in the summer of 1917, however, in organizing the October uprising, he put in more effort than any other Bolshevik leader, Lenin included.

In other words, Leon Trotsky was representing American investment (or Anglo-Saxon intelligence) in the new revolutionary Russia. Therefore, he took the appropriate actions and expressed the appropriate ideas…

It's enough to cite a single fact about Comrade Trotsky and all becomes clear. In the early 20′s, he headed the People's Commissariat of Communications. It was under his leadership that this organization contracted with Swedish firm Nydkvist and Holm for a massive purchase of steam locomotives.

Everything about this order is interesting. Firstly, the quantity 1,000 locomotives. Secondly, the price 200 million gold rubles. The other details are no less curious. It's no secret that Sweden is not a habitat for elephants, but the fact that the Scandinavian country is far from being the world leader in locomotive production also somehow escaped everyone. Nydkvist and Holm did not even have the production capacity to meet the Soviet order at the time. Therefore, the two sides agreed to a transaction under this scheme: Red Russia would pay up front, the Swedes would then build factories, and then send us the locomotives.

In the entire history of the firm, Nydkvist and Holm had never produced more than 40 locomotives per year. But, it decided to muster its strength and produced as many as 50 in 1921! Further down the road, the order was distributed evenly over the course of five years, during which the Swedes used our money to build a factory! In 1922, the buyer received 200 locomotives, and from 1923-1925 it received 250 per year. In addition, the Soviet Union played the role of not only the buyer, but also the lender in this deal. And this had nothing to do with an advance payment for the locomotives. In May 1920, the firm received not only an advance of 7 million Swedish krona, but also an interest-free loan of 10 million krona "for the construction of a machine shop and boiler room." According to the loan agreement, this was to be repaid upon delivery of the final 500 locomotives. Had the Soviet order been reduced, then the Swedes could have easily kept the money! For example, the Swedish side could have delayed the shipment, and the text of the document did not provide for cases in which the contract with the Swedish company could be terminated.

But that's not all. The locomotives were ordered at twice the pre-war price and they were not bought in depreciating currency, but gold rubles! It was quite a scandalous picture: excessive price, advance payment, no goods. And when would they arrive? Who knows? Any tax inspector or auditor who saw anything like this would begin to lick his chops. The deal smelled like a huge scandal and major promotion for anyone who uncovered the fraud.

The Soviet magazine, Economist, wrote about the strange deal in 1922. The article expressed bewilderment over such a strange way to do business. Furthermore, Frolov, the author, posed a logical question: why was it necessary to order the locomotives from Sweden in the first place? Would it not be better to develop, or rather, advance domestic industry? The Putilov firm in Petersburg produced 250 locomotives per year before the war. Why not give it a loan? Such an enormous sum of money could "enhance all of its locomotive plants and feed its workers."
Does such odd management by Comrade Trotsky surprise you? You'd be even more surprised by Lenin's reaction to this Economist article. "These are clearly all counter-revolutionaries, Entente henchmen, organized by servants and spies attempting to influence our youth. We must see to it that we capture and continue to constantly, systematically capture these "military spies" and send them back", the leader of the proletariat wrote. He then asked Felix Dzerzhinsky, head of the Cheka secret police to close the magazine.

But back to the price of this deal that was so unprofitable for Russia and that is forbidden to criticize: 200 million gold rubles that is not only a colossal sum. It was a quarter of the country's gold reserves at the time!

So what does this strange behavior of Lenin and Trotsky really mean? It means that debts must be paid, and promises kept. The money spent on Russia's collapse had to be returned. This was one of the agreements between the representatives of Western governments and the Bolsheviks. Because Lenin remained in power for so long, he broke his agreements with his "partners" in British intelligence only gradually, and in the end it was only a few. Having been put at Russia's helm only to ruin it, he used this cover to do the opposite sew its territory back together. Hence the logic of his actions. We will not pay off the Tsar's debts. We will make concessions. We will not give up our authority, and the spent money will be returned.

So, with Trotsky it is more or less understood. What does Hitler have to do with this? We'll get to that in the next chapter.*

Perloff also specifies that Lenin had $50 million lodged for him in a Swedish bank. That piqued my interest, for it, too, chimed with Starikov's references - see above - to the Nydkvist and Holm contract.

So just how much money did Wall Street's finest make available to Lenin and Trotsky? Does Anthony Sutton answer this?

*http://orientalreview.org/2010/11/04/episode-6-leon-trotsky-father-of-german-nazism-ii/


Guido Preparata's website - Lauren Johnson - 13-06-2014

Ah, yes, Mr. Rigby,

Yes, indeed. Very helpful explanation. And the Oriental Review is quite the treasure.

I'll have to get to reading there.


Guido Preparata's website - Magda Hassan - 14-06-2014

Paul Rigby Wrote:In other words, Leon Trotsky was representing American investment (or Anglo-Saxon intelligence) in the new revolutionary Russia. Therefore, he took the appropriate actions and expressed the appropriate ideas…

Mmmm....vindication for Stalin?