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Valkyrie at Dealey Plaza - Greg Burnham - 27-09-2012 Vasilios Vazakas Wrote:I don't think a clarification is necessary. My question posed above was clear and self explanatory. Evidently. Valkyrie at Dealey Plaza - Albert Doyle - 27-09-2012 If indeed Vallee's head injury and mental incapacitation were the signs of somebody who was intended to be a patsy after an act of assassination would that not represent the falsification of the Chicago ruse theory? And since falsification is desirable in order to give a theory credibility and separate it from philosophy, then isn't the expanding of the possible dimension of the Chicago plot something that would be sought in the pursuit of Deep Political thinking rather than discouraged? Valkyrie at Dealey Plaza - Greg Burnham - 27-09-2012 Albert Doyle Wrote:If indeed Vallee's head injury and mental incapacitation were the signs of somebody who was intended to be a patsy after an act of assassination would that not represent the falsification of the Chicago ruse theory? And since falsification is desirable in order to give a theory credibility and separate it from philosophy, then isn't the expanding of the possible dimension of the Chicago plot something that would be sought in the pursuit of Deep Political thinking rather than discouraged? Forgive my linguistic ineptitude, but I am having some difficulty deciphering your meaning. I am not attempting to be humorous nor insulting. I simply find little of value in what you are writing in this instance. Again, that's not meant to disparage you or Vasilliops. It's probably just me. Valkyrie at Dealey Plaza - Charles Drago - 27-09-2012 Greg Burnham Wrote:Albert Doyle Wrote:If indeed Vallee's head injury and mental incapacitation were the signs of somebody who was intended to be a patsy after an act of assassination would that not represent the falsification of the Chicago ruse theory? And since falsification is desirable in order to give a theory credibility and separate it from philosophy, then isn't the expanding of the possible dimension of the Chicago plot something that would be sought in the pursuit of Deep Political thinking rather than discouraged? Now for the bad cop: GIBBERISH! Valkyrie at Dealey Plaza - Greg Burnham - 27-09-2012 Charles Drago Wrote:Greg Burnham Wrote:Albert Doyle Wrote:If indeed Vallee's head injury and mental incapacitation were the signs of somebody who was intended to be a patsy after an act of assassination would that not represent the falsification of the Chicago ruse theory? And since falsification is desirable in order to give a theory credibility and separate it from philosophy, then isn't the expanding of the possible dimension of the Chicago plot something that would be sought in the pursuit of Deep Political thinking rather than discouraged? Albert, Can I get you anything? Coffee? A cigarette? Valkyrie at Dealey Plaza - Albert Doyle - 27-09-2012 To quote the bard Phil: Phil Dragoo Wrote:http://www.experiment-resources.com/falsifiability.html Valkyrie at Dealey Plaza - Charles Drago - 27-09-2012 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g3YiPC91QUk To explain my predicament in trying to communicate with Albert, I ask that you view the linked video -- a scene from Monty Python and the Holy Grail. I would be the king, Albert would be the guard. Valkyrie at Dealey Plaza - Bill Kelly - 22-07-2018 Bill Kelly Wrote:I've updated the Valkyrie at DP, JFKcountercoup: CIA Loses Detailed Study of Hitler Plot Valkyrie at Dealey Plaza - James Lateer - 23-07-2018 The idea suggested is that Thomas Arthur Vallee could not have been a patsy because he was not a Communist. Well, IMO opinion there had to be at least one backup patsy, whether it be in Chicago, Tampa or Dallas. What if Oswald had called in sick to the TSBD on 11-22-62? What if he had been in a car accident on the way to work? What if he had chickened out (a real possibility IMO)? Oswald had apparently put in an appearance with the Assistant Dean of Students at (my alma mater) the U of Illinois in 1962 or 1963. Many think this was to connect him to the Chicago plot. And I actually believe that Joseph Milteer was the backup patsy or one of the backup patsies in Dallas on 11-22-63. Oswald could have gone to Mexico City in September, 1963. But if he were not in the TSBD on 11-22-63, nobody would have ever known about it. J Edgar Hoover put out a warning to FBI offices in October, 1963 saying that right-wing extremists were trying to kill Kennedy in Dallas. In the recently released JFK files, Hoover asked the FBI to locate the whereabouts of the American Nazi Party on 11-22-63 after the assassination took place. This could have been part of the potential blame of right-wing extremists if Oswald would have cut and ran. The tie-in of Oswald to the Communist party was very thin. It was a pretense that nobody ever really believed. Another patsy could have been found with Communist literature in his pocket, or could have been fingered by Yuri Nosenko or somebody like that. Or the assassination could have been blamed on a right-wing fringe group. Look at Oklahoma City and Timothy McVeigh. Nobody ever really asked who McVeigh had ties to. Some people say he was tied to terrorists in the Philippines. There was really no investigation about any of that. And look at the anthrax attacks. The door was just shut without further ado. I believe that the Chicago plot was not a fake. I don't think the Tampa plot was a fake. And if the Dallas plot did not come off, there would just have been another a week or two later. The Kennedy's (in some respects) almost had a death-wish and were reckless and careless about security to a ridiculous degree. Both JFK and RFK made things very easy for their assassins. James Lateer Valkyrie at Dealey Plaza - Anthony Thorne - 23-07-2018 James Lateer Wrote:The idea suggested is that Thomas Arthur Vallee could not have been a patsy because he was not a Communist. I have never seen this suggested anywhere. Bill, thanks for your hard work on the Valkyrie plot. It's very useful stuff and (from the notes under your recent article in Lobster magazine) I'm looking forward to your upcoming book. I'm sure that CIA study is still around somewhere. They're probably keeping a tight grip on it. |