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Michael Piper and Final Judgment - Mark Stapleton - 16-12-2012
Charles Drago Wrote:The words of Vincent Salandria, as he recounts them in the recently shared story of his meeting with Arlen Specter:
" ... I also concluded that if Oswald was killed by a Jew, it would indicate a high level WASP plot.
Oh yeah. And what path does he follow to arrive at that counter-intuitive conclusion? A very convoluted one I'll bet.
You also omitted Harold Feldman's sentence which preceeded Salandria's reply: Look Oswald will probably be killed. And they'll get a Jew to do it because they always involve a Jew in these things.
That last sentence makes the remarkable and unsupportable assumption that Jews themselves are above suspicion in the assassination. The day after the assassination Feldman rewards one segment of the populace with a clean bill of health. Did Feldman explain to Salandria the reasons underlying this assumption?
If Salandria still believes this, he's a Zionist shill.
http://educationforum.ipbhost.com/index.php?showtopic=19793
Michael Piper and Final Judgment - Mark Stapleton - 16-12-2012
Charles Drago Wrote:Mark Stapleton Wrote:If you're peeved about this glaring ommission, why don't you email Piper and ask him yourself? I'm not an errand boy.
But I bet that "Albert Doyle" is -- and that, thanks to frequent use, "he" has Piper's e-mail address at the tip of "his" forked tongue.
Is that a crime? Do you email other researchers?
Michael Piper and Final Judgment - Jan Klimkowski - 16-12-2012
Mark Stapleton Wrote:David Josephs Wrote:Maybe explain how Piper can introduce Permindex and
not make a connection to Gladio... since he MUST have PERMINDEX be a Lansky/CIA operation to keep his flimsy connections alive...
Wasn't Gladio a CIA/NATO operation? The thread Jan linked dealt mainly with Permindex.
DPF stands always ready to help improve deep political understanding.
Here are some of our many threads on Gladio:
Operation Gladio
[URL="https://deeppoliticsforum.com/forums/showthread.php?10539-Gladio-a-documented-false-flag-terror-campaign&highlight=gladio"]Gladio - a documented false flag terror campaign
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Lucien Sarti and Jaques Mesrine
The Belgian Years of Lead: Gladio rises with a vengeance
Michael Piper and Final Judgment - Charles Drago - 16-12-2012
Mark Stapleton Wrote:Charles Drago Wrote:Mark Stapleton Wrote:If you're peeved about this glaring ommission, why don't you email Piper and ask him yourself? I'm not an errand boy.
But I bet that "Albert Doyle" is -- and that, thanks to frequent use, "he" has Piper's e-mail address at the tip of "his" forked tongue.
Is that a crime? Do you email other researchers?
I e-mail, telephone, and meet with honorable researchers.
But I do not allow them to write material that I post over my signature.
Michael Piper and Final Judgment - Charles Drago - 16-12-2012
Mark Stapleton Wrote:Charles Drago Wrote:The words of Vincent Salandria, as he recounts them in the recently shared story of his meeting with Arlen Specter:
" ... I also concluded that if Oswald was killed by a Jew, it would indicate a high level WASP plot.
Oh yeah. And what path does he follow to arrive at that counter-intuitive conclusion? A very convoluted one I'll bet.
You also omitted Harold Feldman's sentence which preceeded Salandria's reply: Look Oswald will probably be killed. And they'll get a Jew to do it because they always involve a Jew in these things.
That last sentence makes the remarkable and unsupportable assumption that Jews themselves are above suspicion in the assassination. The day after the assassination Feldman rewards one segment of the populace with a clean bill of health. Did Feldman explain to Salandria the reasons underlying this assumption?
If Salandria still believes this, he's a Zionist shill.
http://educationforum.ipbhost.com/index.php?showtopic=19793
You have now driven the final nails in your own coffin.
ITEM -- You condemn a line of thought with which you are admittedly unfamiliar.
ITEM -- You embrace ethnic stereotyping and present it disingenuously as deep political analysis.
ITEM -- You figuratively burn the books of one of the most appropriately august founders of deep political analysis -- a man whose life's work stands as a repudiation of your racism.
You and your litter yet remind us of wisdom inherent in Bertold Brecht's chilling warning:
"Don't rejoice in his defeat, you men.
For though the world stood up and stopped the bastard,
The bitch that bore him is in heat again"
Michael Piper and Final Judgment - Albert Doyle - 16-12-2012
David Josephs Wrote:Maybe explain how Piper can introduce Permindex and
not make a connection to Gladio... since he MUST have PERMINDEX be a Lansky/CIA operation to keep his flimsy connections alive...
Maybe because he wanted to avoid the flagrant opportunism you are doing here with Gladio in order to avoid the correct Mediterranean Swiss bank connections you are dodging like the plague and their connotations. Discussion of Piper is not racism as some are clumsily trying to force. Meanwhile the real argument is how some could try to criticize Piper without mentioning the serious significance of those undiscussed entities. The path here is kind of obvious. First backers only interested in Cuba were used as an excuse. Now it's a European underground only interested in Gladio. All being used, in my opinion, to divert from the Israeli connection, Piper details, to that underground -and- the assassination.
Michael Piper and Final Judgment - Jan Klimkowski - 16-12-2012
Albert Doyle Wrote:David Josephs Wrote:Maybe explain how Piper can introduce Permindex and
not make a connection to Gladio... since he MUST have PERMINDEX be a Lansky/CIA operation to keep his flimsy connections alive...
Maybe because he wanted to avoid the flagrant opportunism you are doing here with Gladio in order to avoid the correct Mediterranean Swiss bank connections you are dodging like the plague and their connotations. Discussion of Piper is not racism as some are clumsily trying to force.
What flagrant opportunism?
Albert Doyle Wrote:Meanwhile the real argument is how some could try to criticize Piper without mentioning the serious significance of those undiscussed entities.
What "undiscussed entities"?
Michael Piper and Final Judgment - Albert Doyle - 16-12-2012
Jan Klimkowski Wrote:What flagrant opportunism?
I feel David is trying to force the discussion into Gladio. Gladio was one arm of the funding through Permindex, but so was the unmentioned Israel interests also funded through the shadowy Permindex underground represented by Rosenbaum's Swiss bank network. It isn't like I haven't repeated this over and over in my posts. Remember, the Italian investigation could never peg exactly where Permindex got its funding.
Jan Klimkowski Wrote:What "undiscussed entities"?
Precisely the Rosenbaum bank network and Israel's interests connected to it. Like nuclear weapons for instance. Sure Gladio was one end of that Mediterranean nexus but you have to keep going. The funding for Permindex and Gladio were connected to a much greater funding network Piper points out that included Israel and projects that Ben-Gurion felt the "future existence of Israel" depended on.
Also, no one ever attempted to answer how those new backers found out about Echevarria's Cubans or how they funded them. Did those obscure backers go to the phonebook and look-up "Cuban Exiles"? My point is any access to those Cubans would have to seriously involve the main conspirators and their interests - which directly included the Lansky Swiss bank network. I think this is what Piper is saying.
Michael Piper and Final Judgment - Charles Drago - 16-12-2012
The rapidity and (relative) complexity of responses.
Worthy of "Colby."
Indicative of ...
Michael Piper and Final Judgment - Jan Klimkowski - 16-12-2012
Albert Doyle Wrote:[
Precisely the Rosenbaum bank network and Israel's interests connected to it. Like nuclear weapons for instance. Sure Gladio was one end of that Mediterranean nexus but you have to keep going. The funding for Permindex and Gladio were connected to a much greater funding network Piper points out that included Israel and projects that Ben-Gurion felt the "future existence of Israel" depended on.
Also, no one ever attempted to answer how those new backers found out about Echevarria's Cubans or how they funded them. Did those obscure backers go to the phonebook and look-up "Cuban Exiles"? My point is any access to those Cubans would have to seriously involve the main conspirators and their interests - which directly included the Lansky Swiss bank network. I think this is what Piper is saying.
Are you seriously suggesting that Mob networks are more important and more powerful than Gladio?