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Dubai seeks '11 Europeans' for Hamas killing - Carsten Wiethoff - 25-02-2010 From http://gulfnews.com/news/gulf/uae/crime/15-new-suspects-in-al-mabhouh-case-1.588300 Quote:Meanwhile, the governments of the UK and Ireland have confirmed that all of the newly revealed identities used in the operation were stolen from their citizens living in Israel, and British Foreign Secretary David Miliband said he expects "full Israeli cooperation" in the investigation.Another interesting tidbit: Quote:Two of the Australians had travelled to Iran by ship in the planning stages of the operation.The credit cards used continue to show links to the US: Quote:Credit card data(from http://gulfnews.com/news/gulf/uae/crime/new-suspects-include-3-australians-1.588329) Regarding the prospects of justice being done in this case: Of course the chances that any one of the suspects, let alone their masters will be captured, extradited and stand trial are practically zero. But having 26 agents publicly exposed does not happen every day to any secret organisation, and it will diminish the types of operations for which these people can be used in the future. Also the political costs continue to grow, mainly because of the fraudulent foreign passports used. I still hope there will come the point where Israel can no longer publicly deny being behind that all and that this might have some consequences inside Israel. Dubai seeks '11 Europeans' for Hamas killing - Magda Hassan - 25-02-2010 Carsten Wiethoff Wrote:From http://gulfnews.com/news/gulf/uae/crime/15-new-suspects-in-al-mabhouh-case-1.588300Very interesting Carsten. Again, nearly all of the names are not identifiable as Jewish or Israeli though they all seem to have some connection to Israel. And nearly half of the credit cards issued by one bank. Mmmm.... Definitely smells. They'll probably try the 'commercial in confidence' or 'privacy laws' to cover their involvement. Who are the shareholders? Who works in the card issue department? Having 26 agents exposed all over the web is not a successful mission even if they got their man. There has been a lot of investment in their training etc and now they can't be used again except on a desk. And of course the (unauthorised) use by the Israeli state of people's idnetities in such an operation has pissed a lot of Israelis and diaspora Jews off no end. The JNF donations will be down this year. Not to mention travel and tourism to Israel. Dubai seeks '11 Europeans' for Hamas killing - Carsten Wiethoff - 25-02-2010 Not surprisingly the three Australians are probably also victims of identity theft, living in Israel. http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/joshua-daniel-bruce-passport-photo-is-not-my-son-mother/story-e6frg6n6-1225834396361 There is a pattern here which makes any statement that Israel has nothing to do with it quite ridiculous. If that would be the case, Israel should be the most interested party to investigate the identity theft of their citizens. I do not hear anything pointing in that direction. Dubai seeks '11 Europeans' for Hamas killing - Peter Presland - 25-02-2010 Carsten Wiethoff Wrote:There is a pattern here which makes any statement that Israel has nothing to do with it quite ridiculous. If that would be the case, Israel should be the most interested party to investigate the identity theft of their citizens. I do not hear anything pointing in that direction.That is a powerful point Carsten. In addition, I have yet to see an article in the Israeli Press that does not likewise assume Mossad responsibility - often with accompanying congratulation and sickening flag-waving (not that my coverage is comprehensive but there is a pattern there too). Also the official statements on the matter from every other country with an immediate interest seek ISRAELI explanations, and the response is 'neither confirmation nor denial' as though they were living in a James Bond derring-do nod-and-wink fantasy world of the 60's. Pathetic really; but collectively it is about as solid a confirmation that it was an Israeli Mossad operation as it is possible to get - short of an official admission. Dubai seeks '11 Europeans' for Hamas killing - Magda Hassan - 25-02-2010 What is the situation in the UK now that there are more UK passports holders identities being used? Has the FM escalated from pouting and foot stomping to holding his breath and sticking his fingers in his ears? Quote:The Australian Federal Police, Australian Passport Office and spy agency ASIO have launched an investigation into the matter and Mr Smith demanded Israel’s co-operation.It is getting a bit more attention here now. "Did the Mossad agents also steal the Frequent Flyer points too?" Dubai seeks '11 Europeans' for Hamas killing - Carsten Wiethoff - 25-02-2010 From http://www.allvoices.com/s/event-5295933/aHR0cDovL3dhcmluY29udGV4dC5vcmcvMjAxMC8wMi8yNC9kdWJhaS1tb25leS10cmFpbC1sZWFkcy1iYWNrLXRvLWlzcmFlbC8= Quote: Dubai money trail leads back to Israel Aha. A former Israeli special-forces soldier. Quite a coincidence. I think it is time for some investigations and arrests in the U.S. or it begins to smell like complicity. Dubai seeks '11 Europeans' for Hamas killing - Carsten Wiethoff - 25-02-2010 In case anybody is interested in the actual travel routes, flights and dates, here they are: Dubai seeks '11 Europeans' for Hamas killing - Magda Hassan - 25-02-2010 Good find Carsten! All roads lead to....Israel. The Dubai police are coming out of this looking pretty good unlike the Israelis. Dubai seeks '11 Europeans' for Hamas killing - Peter Presland - 25-02-2010 Magda Hassan Wrote:What is the situation in the UK now that there are more UK passports holders identities being used? Has the FM escalated from pouting and foot stomping to holding his breath and sticking his fingers in his ears?That's pretty much how things still stand so far as I can see right now. Too much prospective campaign cash at stake to rock the boat right now. We have to have a general election by May this year so this really is the last thing ANY of the MS Parties want. They're all completely flummoxed by it. Again it would be comical if it weren't so serious. Who's that bloke Smith? He's certainly sticking his neck out a bit. Maybe he's just not politically ambitious? Dubai seeks '11 Europeans' for Hamas killing - Carsten Wiethoff - 25-02-2010 At the bottom of this page ( http://www.thenational.ae/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20100225/NATIONAL/702249835/1133) there are links to the 2009 and 2010 movements of the suspects in the form of a pdf each. 2009 here 2010 here |