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Police find body in bag at MI6 man's London flat - Magda Hassan - 13-09-2010 :congrats::burnout: tupido2: :alberteinstein: :rofl: :hahaha:Malcolm I admire your dedication and that you have found the flaw in the theory (embalming fluid on fingers makes key utilisation impossible) but don't replicate it all the way as we don't have your address to make sure you get out okay. Please send one of us the spare key to the bag (and safe house), just in case. If they find another body in a bag in another location it will bugger up the hypothesis and scare the natives. Please upload the video. Can't wait to see you in a police uniform. Gotta love a man in uniform even if it is a police woman's uniform. What am I saying, especially if it's a police woman's uniform. :beer: Police find body in bag at MI6 man's London flat - Malcolm Pryce - 13-09-2010 Don't worry, my butler has a spare key and has been trained in emergency resuscitation techniques.
Police find body in bag at MI6 man's London flat - Magda Hassan - 13-09-2010 All is well then. I hope your man is happy with his working conditions. Police find body in bag at MI6 man's London flat - Jan Klimkowski - 13-09-2010 Malcolm Pryce Wrote:Don't worry, my butler has a spare key and has been trained in emergency resuscitation techniques. Hopefully your butler is not of mediterranean appearance, and his emergency resuscitation techniques avoid all use of satsumas.... Police find body in bag at MI6 man's London flat - Jan Klimkowski - 13-09-2010 The Torygraph article of Sept 11 is worth adding in its entirety. It appears to contain direct leaks from intelligence sources, and contains information not carried in other media to date. A sensible working assumption is of course never to take any leak or steer from intelligence sources at face value. The journalistic byeline credits Patrick Sawer and Gordon Thomas. I assume this is the Gordon Thomas who wrote: Gideon's Spies: The Secret History of the Mossad. Quote:His book Gideon's Spies: Mossad's Secret Warriors became a major documentary for Channel Four that he wrote and narrated: The Spy Machine. It followed three years of research during which he was given unprecedented access to Mossad’s main personnel. The documentary was co-produced by Open Media and Israfilm[2].http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gordon_Thomas_(author) 'Nuff said. Quote:Concern grows over foreign involvement in spy's death http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/crime/7996520/Concern-grows-over-foreign-involvement-in-spys-death.html Plenty enough there to get Williams terminated with extreme prejudice. The official story claims that Williams didn't turn up for work at MI6 for a fortnight, but wasn't on leave. And MI6 didn't check on him until they visited the safe house in which he was living and discovered his decomposing corpse in the padlocked sports bag in the bath. Hmmmm - that's about as plausible as Andy Coulson claiming he knew nothing about his reporters hacking into the phones of investigative targets. :bandit: Police find body in bag at MI6 man's London flat - Peter Lemkin - 14-09-2010 No one seems to be asking the right questions [on purpose]; such as why a spy or highly-classified crytographer wouldn't be 'checked-upon' the very day he didn't show for work..not two weeks after. All the peripheral garbage about the case seems invented and just a barrel full of red herring to divert and confuse. Now I read that the bag was a North Face bag...so WHAT!>?!...[and it was red!]. I think the officials are just hoping the story will die and all will forget it....so they never have to discuss what they know and don't want to tell. Ever hear of a resolution of the 135 billion in 'phony' bearer bonds caper....NO...it too [as most others with intel or deep political connections] has been allowed to 'vanish'..... The Plebs are not to question their would-be-masters. :eviltongue: as to what is really going on. They'll keep the 'Kelly matter' secret, as with 7/7 unless forced to, as well...and with SO many others.....:burnout: Police find body in bag at MI6 man's London flat - David Guyatt - 14-09-2010 Ah, the dear ol' Daily Bellylaugh. What would one (i.e., the mil-intell community) do without it? They'd have to launch their own rag. Whoops.... In any case, that appears to have put paid to my developing theory that a foreign intell outfit did it. And since death via private life interactions was never a runner anyway, it seems we may now need to look deeper. Police find body in bag at MI6 man's London flat - Jan Klimkowski - 14-09-2010 From spook-sourced Daily Telegraph article above: Quote:The 31-year-old maths and computer expert would have been regarded as a valuable asset for his knowledge of the inner-workings of GCHQ, the government's listening post in Cheltenham, and for his work on preventing cyber attacks on the banking and transport infrastructure. Speculatively, I consider the line being pushed above that a foreign intelligence agency had attempted to recruit Williams, and killed him after being rebuffed or because of cold feet, as unlikely. My personal speculative judgement is that it is more likely that Williams discovered something in his investigation of money flows in and out of the City of London, including not just money laundering of arms and drugs money, but also potentially black operations such as death or false flag squads, which he was having difficulty accepting at a moral and ethical level. I am guilty here of having a romantic view of human nature, in which even hardened intelligence operatives still ultimately have a functioning moral compass. However, it is precisely that functioning moral compass which led to Frank Olson being given the acid trip to death. Olson was about to blow the whistle on terminal human mind control experiments, by British and American intelligence, and was therefore murdered - with the truth of his death hidden beneath several onion skins since peeled away, in large part due to the efforts of his son. So, in my judgement, it is possible that Williams was murdered because he was about to blow the whistle on some particularly nefarious and ugly deep black money trail. I am still struggling to understand why the body was left in the locked bag in the bath for a fortnight. Unless it was an attempt to create a contaminated crime scene which could be used, in some fashion, to discredit Williams through allegations about his private life. However, as we've explored above, there is nothing inherently erotically arousing about locking oneself in a sports bag in a bath smothered in some unknown liquid. Police find body in bag at MI6 man's London flat - Peter Lemkin - 24-09-2010 Latest theory about the death of Gareth Williams is preposterous, say security experts By Jack Bremer National security experts reached by The First Post last night have reacted with a mixture of astonishment, ridicule and suspicion to the idea that Gareth Williams, the MI6 agent found dead in a London flat last month, padlocked himself in a zip-up holdall in search of a sexual thrill and then suffocated because he couldn't get out again. "With all due respect to Williams and his family, I haven't stopped laughing since I read the paper at breakfast," one former agent said. "It's more than unlikely - it's preposterous." The hypothesis was reported by the Sunday Times, quoting anonymous "security sources". The paper claimed police had established that Williams, a single man, had a record of engaging in autoerotic practices, and that the greatest likelihood was that he had died as result of an experiment going wrong. According to the Sunday Times' source, police recently invited an escapologist to show them whether it was possible to lock oneself in a holdall and get out again. The escapologist duly climbed into the bag, padlocked it from the inside and then unzipped it using a sharp-tipped pen. Convinced by this - and without addressing whether a 31-year-old codebreaker would necessarily have the skills honed over the years by a seasoned escapologist - the police were apparently persuaded that Williams must have got into the bag and then suffocated in the August heat before he could release himself. "The emerging background is something almost certainly autoerotic," a "senior official" told the paper. The "emerging background", to coin a phrase, for those observing this case unfold, is that the police are at a total loss as to how Williams died. This is either because forensics are revealing nothing - it is possible he was murdered by an enemy using undetectable poison, for instance - or because someone somewhere has succeeded in throwing the police off the scent. According to The First Post's security sources, there are good reasons why government agencies might want this investigation to "go away". These include the possibility that what Williams was working on - and what might have led to his murder - is simply too sensitive to be allowed to go public. It is also possible that his employers slipped up in some respect. One security consultant who spoke anonymously to The First Post said he had been surprised from the start at the considerable delay - at least a week, longer according to some reports - before anyone was alerted to Williams's absence. This did not tally with our source's experience of working for British intelligence: he said the slightest hiccup in established routine would bring instant inquiries. Another source was puzzled by the differing messages being leaked - mainly to the Sunday Times - by those claiming to be close to the investigation. "One minute we're looking for a suspicious couple of Mediterranean appearance, the next we're being told he could have been poisoned by polonium-210 like Alexander Litvinenko - now we're expected to believe that he locked himself in a suitcase." The facts are that Gareth Williams was a GCHQ codebreaker on secondment to MI6, where his work made him privy to highly classified anti-terrorism material. On August 23, at least a week after he had last been seen, his body was found in a North Face holdall in the bath at his top-floor apartment in Pimlico, a short walk from MI6 headquarters. Yes, there are instances of auto-asphyxiation fetishists accidentally killing themselves. But invariably these cases involve hanging, not climbing into airtight suitcases. As Crispin Black wrote for The First Post a week ago, the discovery of Gareth Williams's corpse bore all the hallmarks of a murder by someone who had killed before. The perpetrator had prepared the victim for transport, put the bag in the bath where any final traces of the crime could most easily be washed away, and was then presumably interrupted before being able to remove the body for disposal. Police find body in bag at MI6 man's London flat - Malcolm Pryce - 24-09-2010 When the Home Office escapologist performed his Houdini trick was the bath filled with the mystery fluid which was a feature of earlier reports? |