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How Did President Kennedy's Assassination Happen? - Greg Burnham - 27-04-2012 Peter Lemkin Wrote:Keith Millea Wrote:Arni, Peter, This guy is so "out there" even McAdam's would boot him! How Did President Kennedy's Assassination Happen? - Jan Klimkowski - 27-04-2012 Arni Thoroddsen Wrote:You should really have asked: Could it be someone who managed to get part of his family crest (coat of arms) into the national emblem of East Germany. I would of course have answered: "You might say that Matty, but I couldnt possibly comment! " To quote the response to a reporter questioning the sly british prime minister in a tv mini series that was hopefully fictional. I am hoping that the FBI file has not been removed from the net. Its inclusion there could only have been an oversight by people that did not realize its possible significance. Why should a file on a suspended sentence violation be of significance, especially to some nameless beaurocrat that has no idea who the man with the white cat is or what he represents. I have not read his biography by the way. None of them. Now again I remind you of Thomas G. Buchanans conclusion on the Kennedy murders that the reason they were perpetrated in Dallas was that there the reach of a criminal organization extended to the Police authorities. And that the interests of the oil industry were at least influential in the decision to implement the assassination. And lets say that it is true that as some have alleged that Onassis financed the operation, is it not clear that he would have needed the OK of other members of (inspiration for spectre) bankers, the leaders of other corporations and of course the leaders with the most important intelligence connections. And this sort of assasination needs professional mechanics to carry them out and they need to be discreet, not certifiable rats like you find in the national mafia. Even those who run while others walk, might think tvice before going against these people. And the cleanup afterwards needs to be thorough, which possibly explains a lot of the subsequent deaths. Of course I am not certain that the muse for the man with the white cat was as deadly as portrayed in "You only live tvice", but perhaps Flemming felt that that was the case. This whole JFK matter reeks of an intelligence operation. The mob is usually too clumsy to carry out such an operation, and everybody ends up ratting on everyone involved. Also interesting is this story about Oswalds body being replaced by a double due to efforts of the KGB or the Cubans. It is rather similar to certain sequences of events in "never say never again". (or perhaps that inspired this story about Oswalds body) Flemming must have been interested in the JFK murder after having met the man personally. And of course he must have kept tabs on the bloefeld inspiration if he was investigating the oil industry, aerospace etc. for MI6, especially if (bloefeld) was involved with Onassis. Of course I am speculating that Howard Hughes provided some inspiration for "diamonds are forever" but that of course does not mean that Flemming was hired in relation to the aerospace industry or Howard Hughes but his stories do suggest at least an interest in aerospace. Arni - forget Fleming. This seems like an adaptation of the notorious Gemstone Files. Here's an outline of Gemstonian flights of fantasy: Quote:The Gemstone File proposes that Aristotle Onassis, Joseph P. Kennedy, and other prominent figures were involved in various schemes to forward a vast global conspiracy, involving the Mafia and corrupt politicians, brutal oil and drug cartels, rogue military operations, and more. It also posits that early in 1957, Aristotle Onassis had Howard Hughes kidnapped from his Beverly Hills Hotel bungalow; that Hughes suffered a massive brain injury during the forcible kidnapping, and that Hughes was subsequently a virtual prisoner of Onassis on Skorpios and injected regularly with morphine, while Onassis took over the operation of Hughes's considerable financial affairs, including airlines and U.S. defense contracting. (At the time, Onassis had a permanent suite rented at the same hotel, along with his many other residences around the globe. Thus he was a "neighbor" of Howard Hughes, and in a position to conceive of, plan, and have the kidnap executed more readily.) How Did President Kennedy's Assassination Happen? - Greg Burnham - 27-04-2012 Charles Drago Wrote:Greg Burnham Wrote:Hey Arni, Mr. Hobson to businessman in Mr. Bach's reception room: "I wouldn't know. I'm just a servant. On the other hand, go screw yourself." How Did President Kennedy's Assassination Happen? - Stan Wilbourne - 28-04-2012 Could someone please direct me to the "delete thread" button? Thank you. How Did President Kennedy's Assassination Happen? - Magda Hassan - 28-04-2012 Stan Wilbourne Wrote:Could someone please direct me to the "delete thread" button?Hi Stan you can use the edit button under your post. Or I can delete it for you if you give me the post number. How Did President Kennedy's Assassination Happen? - Greg Burnham - 28-04-2012 Stan, I apologize for drifting off topic. I do appreciate this thread a lot more than my somewhat flippant posts indicate. I have found this entire (90%+) discussion very worthwhile. Please accept my apology. How Did President Kennedy's Assassination Happen? - Stan Wilbourne - 28-04-2012 Magda, thanks. But, no need for that. I was just being a bit contrary. "Most of the cast (cats) you meet on streets speak of true love..." How Did President Kennedy's Assassination Happen? - Stan Wilbourne - 28-04-2012 Greg, Please. How Did President Kennedy's Assassination Happen? - Greg Burnham - 28-04-2012 Stan Wilbourne Wrote:Greg, Whew... How Did President Kennedy's Assassination Happen? - Arni Thoroddsen - 28-04-2012 I can see that this seems to be an emotional issue for some of you, but as I stated the assassination did not really interest me initially. If you have all composed yourselves. Is it really mind blowing to suggest that the thought of a president in the white house who is shooting up on benzedreene because of his illness and has his finger on the nuclear button should cause people to be slightly nervous during the height of the Cold War. People who run the oil industry are usually not chosen for their sentimentality, and if they are not able to get rid of obstacles in their path without being hindered by scruples, they are better off moving to another proffession (as are many of those in the intelligence service). It is hardly mind blowing to suggest that Flemming who worked for naval intelligence in the war and was trusted by the service (have you read the new book on "Ian Flemmings Commando Squad" recently published?) was used to investigate Onassis, when the vital interests of the british fleet were involved, and intelligence agencies are hardly known for not making use of any retired assets. His connections to Onassis are an established fact and hardly mind blowing. Flemming kept in touch with the Kennedy family according to at least one biography, and Robert Kennedy I believe communicated to Flemming that he wished more people would read "You only live tvice". Flemming had an emotional attachment to the Kennedys, which is hardly surprising as the brothers were highly intelligent and charming and well read (more than you could expect from most american politicians). Now "You Only Live Tvice" is about Number One attempting to kill Bond, and killing everyone who gets remotely close to the spectre organization. Perhaps Robert Kennedy should have read this book more attentively and not investigated people who were as dangerous as those described in the book with tentacles extending to all the darkest corners of the intelligence community supranationally. Perhaps he would be alive to this day if he had. But then of course perhaps I would never have found the FBI file on Number One that his investigation possibly resulted in. Now I hardly think that any of my statements are mind blowing. And I assure you the file exists and I have read it on the internet. And it was easy to find.But whether they have buried it again, I have not checked, since I really am not concerned if perps remain undiscovered. I find it unlikely though since I dont believe that anyone is alive today that had a direct connection to this matter. And like I say if someone today found this file and checked why it should remain a secret I am sure he would not appreciate what it represents. Unless he had also read these posts which is unlikely (and even then he would have to do a bit of deep thinking before he made the connections). Now if you have not composed yourselves yet, you must be running low on valium. |