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A PUBLIC APPEAL TO WALT BROWN: Release Jay Harrison's Archive - Dawn Meredith - 15-07-2014 Phil Dragoo Wrote:Walt Now there was one serious legit researcher. Phil was an amazing man. We became friends in the 80's back in the day of snail mail. These cases were his life, a life cut way too short by cancer in 2006. As for J's files...I expect we've heard the last of them. As to why they were shared with Joan, I have my personal feelings which will remain private, not for publication. RIP dear friend. I miss you every day. Dawn A PUBLIC APPEAL TO WALT BROWN: Release Jay Harrison's Archive - Dawn Meredith - 15-07-2014 Peter Lemkin Wrote:There is a person on this forum [and two off] who have explained to me in detail how your main point is WRONG and that Walt's obtaining of Harrison's papers may have been more an 'op' than the 'will' of Harrison. Others have also voiced their opinion on this, sensing this may well have been so. Would that person on the Forum care to publicly put some of the details they have privately told me here? Many find fishy, Harrison leaving his things to Brown.....and with good reason. There is much more to that story than meets the innocent/unknowing eye! Agreed Peter. This person is dead wrong. Jay died in the belief that his work would be carried on by Walt. He trusted Walt with his life's work. A few months' before he died Jay wrote his own obit and sent it to two people only. Walt and me. It somehow got accidently deleted from my computer so I emailed Walt to see if he would send me a copy as J's former wife had contacted me and wanted a copy. He replied that he did not have it. Was that a lie? Or does it speak volumes about his friendship? Dawn A PUBLIC APPEAL TO WALT BROWN: Release Jay Harrison's Archive - Peter Lemkin - 16-07-2014 Just to note for those not up on the 'Harrison files' - to my knowledge, the ONLY person ever allowed to have access to the files by Brown has been Joan Mellen, who lives not far away from where Brown keeps them stored. Joan told me she had unfettered access to the files, and brought groups of them to her home, returning these when she picked up the next set. She verified that the complete set was enormous, and more than she could ever look through. There are not even many researchers who know about Harrison or his importance in the research world, because of his penchant for secrecy. Plumlee knew Harrison very well - knew him even before the assassination [!] and throughout his years of investigative work they were in contact and close. Because of this, and because I was once contracted with Tosh to write the biography of his life [with an emphasis on his involvement in Dallas, if any], I requested of Walt Brown to see that portion of Harrison's files that related to Plumlee and those who brought Plumlee into the world of intelligence and covert operations. If one looks back at the early parts of this thread, one will find out what happened to my request. At first, I was promised all related to Plumlee - the only caveat being that I paid for copying, etc., to which I agreed. However, in the end, I never saw a single page. A PUBLIC APPEAL TO WALT BROWN: Release Jay Harrison's Archive - Magda Hassan - 16-07-2014 It is a real shame that Jay's wishes have not been fulfilled. Having information locked away does no one any good. The information wants to be free. It should be in a public repository like a library accessible for all. Even better if that library has their archives online. The fact that they are all in boxes in a private residence or secure storage facility with selective access at the discretion of one person is heart breaking. And too much responsibility for one person as well. Surely Jay would have wanted his research safe but accessible and available? A PUBLIC APPEAL TO WALT BROWN: Release Jay Harrison's Archive - Peter Lemkin - 16-07-2014 Magda Hassan Wrote:It is a real shame that Jay's wishes have not been fulfilled. Having information locked away does no one any good. The information wants to be free. It should be in a public repository like a library accessible for all. Even better if that library has their archives online. The fact that they are all in boxes in a private residence or secure storage facility with selective access at the discretion of one person is heart breaking. And too much responsibility for one person as well. Surely Jay would have wanted his research safe but accessible and available? As Harrison had once been in the DPD, had before that been in MI, and knew, personally, several of the possible 'players' in this drama - or would have had easy access to them (without their knowing he was a 'researcher') through his past MI, DPD and personal contacts, some have speculated that some of the more important things ever investigated privately may lie in Harrison's files. Yes, it is a shame that they are not available, apparently. They have been made available, to my knowledge, to only on researcher, as I mentioned, and even she had to limit herself to only parts of it, as the total is variously said to be between one and two million pages! That's a lot of work!!!!...from someone in a very unique position to do research on this matter! A PUBLIC APPEAL TO WALT BROWN: Release Jay Harrison's Archive - Dawn Meredith - 16-07-2014 Peter Lemkin Wrote:Magda Hassan Wrote:It is a real shame that Jay's wishes have not been fulfilled. Having information locked away does no one any good. The information wants to be free. It should be in a public repository like a library accessible for all. Even better if that library has their archives online. The fact that they are all in boxes in a private residence or secure storage facility with selective access at the discretion of one person is heart breaking. And too much responsibility for one person as well. Surely Jay would have wanted his research safe but accessible and available? Not much I can add. Jay expected Walt to carry out his work and makes his files available, via University or some such vehicle. Yes he required secrecy. That was his rule. The day we met-11/21/97- he told me to never reveal his name. A promise I kept til 5/25/05 when he passed. I wanted to run an obit in the local Austin American Statesman but Walt said NO. His reason was that "people would show up and loot J's home". I should have run it anyway. During the boom days J was a successful real estate agent and had lots of friends in that world. He died and no one even knew. He wanted the obit he wrote run. And his work to continue. Last I heard- from Walt's mag- he is selling all his JFK stuff. So ....think what you will about J's files. Dawn A PUBLIC APPEAL TO WALT BROWN: Release Jay Harrison's Archive - Tom Bowden - 16-07-2014 I met Jay in 1994 and over the years utilized his files and his talent on three occasions. He was paid money each time and we had a decent and friendly relationship. I have also known Walt Brown for the same time period and we sold his books and his newsletter in the Conspiracy Museum. I doubt most of you realize that Jay used a genealogy based computer system to store his information. I have done considerable genealogy work and understand the problems this creates. In addition, Jay was using an outdated package without software support. I have a paper printout of his files on Malcolm Wallace, Lyndon Johnson and Billie Sol Estes. 95% of the information on a single page is of little value. In addition, most of the information is repeated on each individual listed on say Malcolm's sheet. If you multiply the number of persons jay had information on you come to a horrendous number of paper sheets. Jay himself told me that no one could really run his computer system other than him. Jay used the genealogy system to make notes and there is value in the notes. So Walt has all these sheets of paper. To fulfill an information request, it is not a simple matter of picking up a file and making copies. I am not defending Walt. I am just saying accessing a name is not easy. I sincerely doubt Baylor for instance would even be interested in it because of this problem. I also sincerely doubt any of you would want to spend time searching the files once you understood the task. A PUBLIC APPEAL TO WALT BROWN: Release Jay Harrison's Archive - Magda Hassan - 16-07-2014 Tom Bowden Wrote:I met Jay in 1994 and over the years utilized his files and his talent on three occasions. He was paid money each time and we had a decent and friendly relationship. I have also known Walt Brown for the same time period and we sold his books and his newsletter in the Conspiracy Museum. I doubt most of you realize that Jay used a genealogy based computer system to store his information. I have done considerable genealogy work and understand the problems this creates. In addition, Jay was using an outdated package without software support. I have a paper printout of his files on Malcolm Wallace, Lyndon Johnson and Billie Sol Estes. 95% of the information on a single page is of little value. In addition, most of the information is repeated on each individual listed on say Malcolm's sheet. If you multiply the number of persons jay had information on you come to a horrendous number of paper sheets. Jay himself told me that no one could really run his computer system other than him. Jay used the genealogy system to make notes and there is value in the notes. So Walt has all these sheets of paper. To fulfill an information request, it is not a simple matter of picking up a file and making copies. I am not defending Walt. I am just saying accessing a name is not easy. I sincerely doubt Baylor for instance would even be interested in it because of this problem. I also sincerely doubt any of you would want to spend time searching the files once you understood the task. I have heard similar observations from others too. Not a simple fix by the sound of it. A PUBLIC APPEAL TO WALT BROWN: Release Jay Harrison's Archive - Anthony Thorne - 16-07-2014 I have no dog in this fight and haven't followed the issue close enough other than to know that various DPF members have been unhappy enough about the situation to begin and continue the current thread. That said, did folks here read Walt's response to Charles Drago (who is obviously ex-DPF) in Walt's autobio? I recall there is another reference to the controversy in his book too, but the following was the one I returned to and found at short notice. This is from somewhere within the final quarter of WALT'S JOURNEY - Appendix IV of his big Chronology. There are several other pages elsewhere in that volume that go into Joan Mellen's dealings with Walt and his with her. ..... Quote:"In late February, 2012, when I was recovering on one hand from semi-serious surgery but making breakthroughs as noted above, I received forwarded e mails from two collegial researchers regarding some things that were being said about me. A PUBLIC APPEAL TO WALT BROWN: Release Jay Harrison's Archive - Peter Lemkin - 16-07-2014 Tom Bowden Wrote:I met Jay in 1994 and over the years utilized his files and his talent on three occasions. He was paid money each time and we had a decent and friendly relationship. I have also known Walt Brown for the same time period and we sold his books and his newsletter in the Conspiracy Museum. I doubt most of you realize that Jay used a genealogy based computer system to store his information. I have done considerable genealogy work and understand the problems this creates. In addition, Jay was using an outdated package without software support. I have a paper printout of his files on Malcolm Wallace, Lyndon Johnson and Billie Sol Estes. 95% of the information on a single page is of little value. In addition, most of the information is repeated on each individual listed on say Malcolm's sheet. If you multiply the number of persons jay had information on you come to a horrendous number of paper sheets. Jay himself told me that no one could really run his computer system other than him. Jay used the genealogy system to make notes and there is value in the notes. So Walt has all these sheets of paper. To fulfill an information request, it is not a simple matter of picking up a file and making copies. I am not defending Walt. I am just saying accessing a name is not easy. I sincerely doubt Baylor for instance would even be interested in it because of this problem. I also sincerely doubt any of you would want to spend time searching the files once you understood the task. Thanks for that. It sounds logical until one realizes that Joan Mellen was quite able to find very important new information within what was there. She repeated this to me on several occasions, at several points in her work with these files/materials. Yes, she also said they were not easy to use. It seems counter-intuitive to use a genealogy system - but this can not be changed. I'm aware of many side stories and side aspects of J's research which I have been asked not to be made public - so I can not. But from what I know and what Joan reported [and others I can't name] there still resides much important information - even if in a very difficult format. |