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ISIS: Remaining and Expanding - Magda Hassan - 23-08-2014 Danny Jarman Wrote:If ISIS were the real deal they'd be attacking the Saudi's and IsraelYeah, have to agree with that. No one ever seriously attacks them. Also noted that Saudi Arabia beheaded 17 people last week for non violent crimes including sorcery. Where is the western media baying for blood on that? US and UK still giving this disgusting family weapons. ISIS: Remaining and Expanding - Lauren Johnson - 23-08-2014 Here's another commentary on the Foley video. Verdict, at least partially staged. ISIS: Remaining and Expanding - Magda Hassan - 02-09-2014 ISIS: Remaining and Expanding - Drew Phipps - 06-09-2014 From news 9/5/14: http://www.aol.com/article/2014/09/05/nato-allies-agree-to-take-on-islamic-state-threat/20958077/?icid=maing-grid7%7Cmain5%7Cdl2%7Csec1_lnk3%26pLid%3D525540 NATO allies agree to take on Islamic State threat Sep 5th 2014 3:31PM By LOLITA C. BALDOR NEWPORT, Wales (AP) - The U.S. and 10 of its key allies agreed Friday that the Islamic State group is a significant threat to NATO countries and that they will take on the militants by squeezing their financial resources and going after them with military might. With the Islamic State militants spreading across eastern Syria and northern and western Iraq, President Barack Obama noted that the moderate Syrian rebels fighting both the group and the government of Bashar Assad are "outgunned and outmanned." In addition to the action pledged by fellow NATO leaders, he pressed Arab allies to reject the "nihilism" projected by the group.. The new NATO coalition will be able to mount a sustained effort to push back the militants, Obama said. The U.S. secretaries of State and Defense, meeting with their counterparts at the international gathering, insisted the Western nations build a plan by the time the U.N. General Assembly meets this month. "I did not get any resistance or pushback to the basic notion that we have a critical role to play in rolling back this savage organization that is causing so much chaos in the region and is harming so many people and poses a long-term threat to the safety and security of NATO members," Obama said at the summit conclusion. "So there's great conviction that we have to act, as part of the international community, to degrade and ultimately destroy ISIL, and that was extremely encouraging." Laying out a strategy for Iraq, Obama hinted at a broader military campaign, likening it to the way U.S. forces pushed back al-Qaida along Pakistan's border with Afghanistan, taking out the group's leadership, shrinking its territory and pounding at its militant followers. To do that, the U.S. used persistent airstrikes, usually by CIA drones. So far, U.S. airstrikes in Iraq have been largely limited to helping Kurdish forces and protecting refugees. But Obama has set a goal of dismantling and destroying the Islamic State, and said Friday that the U.S. will continue to hunt down the militants just as it did with al-Qaida and with al-Shabab in Somalia. Secretary of State John Kerry heads to the Middle East next week, and he expects to expand the coalition beyond Western nations. Said Obama: "I think it is absolutely critical that we have Arab states and specifically Sunni-majority states that are rejecting the kind of extremist nihilism that we're seeing out of ISIL, that say that is not what Islam is about and are prepared to join us actively in the fight." The Islamic State group espouses a radical form of Sunni Islam and initially invaded Iraq to fight its Shiite government. "What we can accomplish is to dismantle this network, this force that has claimed to control this much territory, so that they can't do us harm," Obama said. He added that U.S. ground troops in Syria are not needed to accomplish the goal, but instead can work with moderate partners on the ground in the country. "They have been, to some degree, outgunned and outmanned. And that's why it's important for us to work with our friends and allies to support them more effectively," Obama said. In a meeting with the foreign and defense ministers from the coalition countries, Kerry said leaders need a clear idea about what each country will contribute to the fight. And, while noting that many won't be willing to engage in military strikes, he said they can instead provide intelligence, equipment, ammunition or weapons. "We very much hope that people will be as declarative as some of our friends around the table have been in order to be clear about what they're willing to commit, because we must be able to have a plan together by the time we come to (the United Nations General Assembly)," said Kerry. "We need to have this coalesce." Defense Secretary Chuck Hagel, sitting alongside Kerry, said the group forms a loose coalition that will be needed to face the insurgent challenge. He said the group can then be expanded. Along with the United States, the coalition comprises the United Kingdom, France, Australia, Germany, Canada, Turkey, Italy, Poland and Denmark. Later, French President Francois Hollande said France was discussing with allies what type of action might be taken. "France is ready to act, but once the political accord is there and in respect to international law," Hollande said. A senior Obama administration official said Thursday that the U.S. wanted to establish a credible ground force in Syria by training more moderate rebels before taking military action there. A $500 million request is pending in Congress. One prong of a Western coalition approach would be for the nations' law enforcement and intelligence agencies to work together to go after the Islamic State's financing - both in banks and more informal funding networks. But as long as the Islamic State has access to millions of dollars a month in oil revenue, it will remain well-funded, U.S. intelligence officials say. NATO Secretary General Anders Fogh Rasmussen said NATO has agreed to help coordinate assistance to Iraq. And he said NATO would consider putting together a mission to train and increase the capabilities of the Iraqi forces. NATO did training during the Iraq war. NATO also agreed to increase cooperation among nations on sharing information about foreign fighters. A number of nations, including the U.S., have noted that radicalized citizens have been traveling to Syria and Iraq to fight, raising alarms that they could return to their home countries and launch attacks. Denmark's Foreign Minister Martin Lidegaard said the effort against the militants "is not only about a military effort, it is also about stopping the financial contributions to ISIS, to coordinate intelligence, it is about stopping foreign fighters, young people from our own societies. It is decisive that we get more countries along." ISIS: Remaining and Expanding - Magda Hassan - 08-09-2014 Drew Phipps Wrote:From news 9/5/14: http://www.aol.com/article/2014/09/05/nato-allies-agree-to-take-on-islamic-state-threat/20958077/?icid=maing-grid7%7Cmain5%7Cdl2%7Csec1_lnk3%26pLid%3D525540 If they were really serious about dealing with ISIS they'd close the border between NATO Turkey and Syria. They haven't and they're not. They'd stop funnelling arms through there to the 'moderates' fighting against Syria. Quote: http://www.cbsnews.com/news/as-turkey-turned-blind-eye-isis-took-advantage/ ISIS: Remaining and Expanding - Magda Hassan - 08-09-2014 Here's the "moderate rebels" (FSA) everyone keeps talking about.. Back when ISIS/IS/ISIL wasn't so reviled by the MSM. ISIS: Remaining and Expanding - Magda Hassan - 08-09-2014 Meanwhile newspapers from the UAE (whose government amongst others funds ISIS) wax lyrical about the Islamic State. Just don't mind the beheadings too much. Or the stoning. Or the complete lack of human rights. And just forget that there was a fully functioning state there before the US let the jackals onto Syria. Quote:In Raqqa, ISIL governs with fear and efficiencyhttp://www.thenational.ae/world/middle-east/in-raqqa-isil-governs-with-fear-and-efficiency#full ISIS: Remaining and Expanding - Magda Hassan - 11-09-2014 Steven Sotloff Was Sold To ISIS By 'Moderate' Rebels, Family Spokesman Tells CNNThe Huffington Post | By Ed MazzaPosted: 09/09/2014 12:10 am EDT Updated: 09/09/2014 12:59 am EDT Steven Sotloff, the American journalist murdered by Islamic State militants last week, was sold to the terrorist organization by supposedly moderate rebels in Syria, a family spokesman told CNN on Monday night. "For the first time, we can say Steven was sold at the border. Steven's name was on a list that he had been responsible for the bombing of a hospital," Barak Barfi said on "Anderson Cooper 360." "This was false, activists spread his name around." "We believe that these so-called moderate rebels that people want our administration to support, one of them sold him probably for something between $25,000 and $50,000 to ISIS, and that was the reason he was captured," Barfi told Cooper. Barfi credited "sources on the ground" for providing the information, including details of the capture. "Somebody at the border crossing made a phone call to ISIS and they set up a fake checkpoint with many people and Steven and his people that he went in with could not escape," he said. Barfi also described relations between the Sotloff family and the Obama administration as "strained," and railed against what he called "inaccurate statements" put out by the U.S. government. "We know that the intelligence community and the White House are enmeshed in a larger game of bureaucratic infighting and Jim and Steve are pawns in this game and that's not fair and if there continues to be leaks the Sotloff family will have to speak out to set the record straight," he said. "Jim" refers to James Foley, an American photojournalist also murdered by Islamic State militants. Islamic State is sometimes referred to as ISIS or ISIL. Both Foley and Sotloff were beheaded by the terrorists, who released videos of the killings online. See the full interview in the clip above. ISIS: Remaining and Expanding - Magda Hassan - 13-09-2014 As Turkey Refuses To Join "Anti-ISIS" Coalition, John Kerry Comes BeggingSubmitted by Tyler Durden on 09/12/2014 08:23 -0400 It appears the 'broad coalition' that President Obama so confidently described just two days ago is crumbling faster than the Iraqi army. First UK and Germany deny support for airstrikes in Syria and now Turkey refuses to allow a U.S.-led coalition to attack jihadists in neighboring Iraq and Syria from its air bases, nor will it take part in combat operations against militants, a government official. US Secretary of State John Kerry arrived in Ankara this morning to 'build the coalition' but, as AFP reports, Turkish officials have already made their position clear, "Turkey will not be involved in any armed operation but will entirely concentrate on humanitarian operations." Their 'excuse': "our hands and arms are tied because of the hostages," but follows PM Erdogan's recent shunning of Obama. As AFP reports, US Secretary of State John Kerry arrived in Ankara Friday for talks aimed at building a coalition against Islamic State jihadists, a visit that comes after Turkey said it would not allow its air bases to be used for strikes on the extremists. The top US diplomat, touring the Middle East to establish a coalition of more than 40 countries, is to meet with Turkey's leaders including President Recep Tayyip Erdogan for talks on measures to defeat the militants in Iraq and Syria. Turkey, a NATO member and Washington's key ally in the region, is reluctant to take part in combat operations against Islamic State militants, or allow a US-led coalition to attack jihadists from its territory. On the eve of the visit, a Turkish official told AFP: "Our hands and arms are tied because of the hostages." The official added that Turkey will "not be involved in any armed operation but will entirely concentrate on humanitarian operations." IS militants hold 49 Turks hostage, including diplomats and children, abducted from the Turkish consulate in Mosul in Iraq in June. Turkey can open Incirlik Air Base in the south for logistical and humanitarian operations in any U.S.-led operation, according to the official who stressed that the base would not be used for lethal air strikes. "Turkey will not take part in any combat mission, nor supply weapons," he said. This is not an entire surprise given Erdogan's shunning of Obama and the decision echoes the country's refusal to allow the U.S. to station 60,000 troops in Turkey in 2003 to invade Iraq from the north, which triggered a crisis between the two allies. ISIS: Remaining and Expanding - Magda Hassan - 13-09-2014 Since when do journalists do this? |