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Lyndon Johnson and Mac Wallace - by Joan Mellen - Dawn Meredith - 07-08-2014

Drew Phipps Wrote:If that occurred here in Austin, I might be able to get the police report. If you know the date of the break in and his address at the time, I'll see what I can do.

Drew I don't think Nathan even reported it. The home had a security system and such was bypassed. Nothing else was taken but that box he kept under his bed. There were valuables that remained untouched so what ever entity took it was there for just that one box. Nathan was very afraid. I do not recall him saying he called the police. It was in August 03. I don't recall the date, just know it was after the second week, as we were in Boston the first week. Then my mom fell ill and in a coma for many days til she died (in Canada). So that has all become a sad blur.


Lyndon Johnson and Mac Wallace - by Joan Mellen - Dawn Meredith - 07-08-2014

Tom Bowden Wrote:[quote=Peter Lemkin][quote=Dawn Meredith][quote=Peter Lemkin]

well you are leaving out another possible tack….the Johnson Family. I have reason to believe and interviews with Mexican Mafia who told me that Walter Jenkins was behind the arrangement where BSE was charged with rape and not allowed to testify at the Austin hearing to change the Death certificate from Suicide to homicide on Marshall. The rape charge was covered in Abiliene newspapers and he was subsequently cleared because the rape kit contained sperm and BSE had had a vasectomy. The charge was leveled by BSE's mexican housekeeper. The Mexican drug lord in ojinaqa (sp) told me the Mexican that hired the girl was paid by Walter Jenkins. Subsequently, both of them were murdered in Mexico after the girl returned. I was not allowed to tape that conversation but it occurred in Mexico and the person was in charge of bringing drugs across in the La Paz area. The Johnson family has protected the legacy of LBJ in many ways as those who have researched to the Library are aware.

WOW. Does this not lend credence to BSE's testimony? It is very hard for me to believe that it was ruled a suicide to begin with. The evidence of murder was overwhelming. But LBJ's people were very powerful. IF BSE had no tapes after all it was quite a clever foil that allowed him to live a long life.
I remember J calling me one day telling me he had seen Estes at the VA in Temple. Wondering why he would be there. J was there because he was in a car accident and in severe pain, in I think 1999. He was convinced that the accident was the cause of his pain. So my husband filed a lawsuit on Jay's behalf. When it came to the needed medicals J had no money to see a dr. and Erick told him he had a free one, the VA. It was there that they discovered a huge tumor is J's tummy. Cancer. That lawsuit bought him five more years of life.


Lyndon Johnson and Mac Wallace - by Joan Mellen - Drew Phipps - 07-08-2014

Ok I'll just give it a shot with name and that date and see if anything comes back.


Lyndon Johnson and Mac Wallace - by Joan Mellen - Tom Bowden - 07-08-2014

BSE was foiled in his attempt to get a pardon from LBJ. He tried through his contacts both inside and outside the administration. He was rebuffed by Cliff Carter and Walter Jenkins. An acquaintance of mine owned several country newspapers and at that time, had considerable political clout. He refused to even discuss the subject with LBJ. BSE created the tape story in an attempt to blackmail Johnson to get a pardon. LBJ knew he was not on any tapes. Cliff Carter was not sure for he had been the go between on political favors to BSE. Nothing about the assassination were every discussed as being on the tapes from the 60's.

BSE made many friends during his two stays in Federal Prison. The Chargra brothers from El Paso were friends both before, during and after prison. His lasting friendship was with Chauncey Smalldome from the Colorado mob. Smalldome was the source for BSE's assassination knowledge. Smalldome was tied directly into the Dallas Mob scene and used some of the same enforcers.

I think the Johnson family was trying to protect LBJ's legacy not his active involvement in the assassination. Walter Jenkins, after he was removed from the Washington scene on the homosexual charges, remained on the Johnson payroll his entire life.

This reminds me of my appearance on a gay TV program some years ago to discuss if Lincoln was bisexual. He was suspected of being bisexual because when he first came to Washington, he roomed with a man and slept in the same bed. This was common practice during those days to save money. However, it did lead to a rumor. After all in one TV episode, Ben Cartright slept with a man..lol


Lyndon Johnson and Mac Wallace - by Joan Mellen - Drew Phipps - 07-08-2014

Found this from Robert Morrow on the Education Forum:

"A March 9, 1998 affidavit recounts Nathan Darby's work history:

His employment began with the Texas Department of Public Safety in 1938. In October of 1940 he joined the Austin Texas Police Department. He was promoted to sergeant in 1948 and lieutenant in 1953. He became supervisor of the Identification and Criminal Records Section in 1956. He was on the board of directors of the Texas Division of the International Association for Identification. He held an Advanced Certificate in Law Enforcement and an Instructors Certificate from the Texas Commission on Law Enforcement. He was a member of the Texas Division of the International Association for Identification from November 1946 until his death."

(Emphasis added) This thread has a video of Darby:

http://educationforum.ipbhost.com/index.php?showtopic=18319

Dawn: What did the "A." stand for in "A. Nathan Darby?" There was a fingerprint guy in the Phillipines around WW2 named "Lt. Asa Nathan Darby" but during that period our Darby was supposedly already employed by Austin PD...

Open Records request sent, lacking an address and an exact date, I'm not sure that will be sufficient.


Lyndon Johnson and Mac Wallace - by Joan Mellen - Dawn Meredith - 07-08-2014

Drew Phipps Wrote:Thanks for that contact with the family. Looks like Mellen is being set up with some disinformation. Let's hope she's smart enough to avoid printing it.

PS I was just -re-reading this as I posted it on facebook to try to get Richard and Barr to comment. Not sure if RB is a member here. I know Barr is not.
Not only did Nathan refuse to be paid for his work, he actually paid for copies of stuff for J. (I just noticed Drew's comment about being paid). In fact on one of the nights during a copying session that Nathan paid for Jay got very angry that Nathan would not contact Walt Brown. I am not sure why Nathan would not, I guess he felt his wok was done, we never discovered his reasons, I know that he was quite upset at the extent of J's anger over this. He called me quite late in the evening, totally unlike him. So for a time they did not speak, then a few months later Nathan told me he'd been sitting in church (where his son was the Pastor) and began praying for J. Asking God who could help J. He then told me he realized it had to be him. So he got a ride to J's and they made up and as a result J recommitted his life to God. Walt was with J when he died and called in a Priest to administer last rites. Walt would later re-count the supreme irony that J had passed at 11:22 pm. (5/25/05).
Dawn


Lyndon Johnson and Mac Wallace - by Joan Mellen - Dawn Meredith - 07-08-2014

Drew Phipps Wrote:Found this from Robert Morrow on the Education Forum:

"A March 9, 1998 affidavit recounts Nathan Darby's work history:

His employment began with the Texas Department of Public Safety in 1938. In October of 1940 he joined the Austin Texas Police Department. He was promoted to sergeant in 1948 and lieutenant in 1953. He became supervisor of the Identification and Criminal Records Section in 1956. He was on the board of directors of the Texas Division of the International Association for Identification. He held an Advanced Certificate in Law Enforcement and an Instructors Certificate from the Texas Commission on Law Enforcement. He was a member of the Texas Division of the International Association for Identification from November 1946 until his death."

(Emphasis added) This thread has a video of Darby:

http://educationforum.ipbhost.com/index.php?showtopic=18319

Dawn: What did the "A." stand for in "A. Nathan Darby?" There was a fingerprint guy in the Phillipines around WW2 named "Lt. Asa Nathan Darby" but during that period our Darby was supposedly already employed by Austin PD...

Open Records request sent, lacking an address and an exact date, I'm not sure that will be sufficient.

Gee it never occurred to me to ever ask. He could have been over there and working for APD. I mean how many print experts are named "A-- Nathan Darby"?
Good work Drew.


Lyndon Johnson and Mac Wallace - by Joan Mellen - Drew Phipps - 07-08-2014

Duh! Here it is in his affidavit:

"I first became interested in fingerprint work in 1942. My direct work in fingerprint identification began soon after, during my military service. I joined the U.S. Army in October 1943 and graduated from Officer Candidate School as a lieutenant in February 1945. I was immediately put in charge of preparing a fingerprint identification system for the Philippine Commonwealth. For my work of setting up their Central Fingerprint Bureau, I was awarded the Philippine Military Merit Medal, the Philippine Commonwealth's highest non-combat award for foreign military personnel. The United States Army also awarded me the Army Commendation Medal. This achievement was further recognized in the 1946 textbook, Lectures in Fingerprints by Fred C. Luchico, then Chief of the Identification Division with the Department of Justice, where he states that I "provided a modern, current, and complete fingerprint file for the Philippine Commonwealth." By 1946 I had risen to the rank of Captain. When my tour of Duty was completed in the Philippines, I returned to the Austin Police Department in November 1946."

His contribution is still remembered in the Philipines:

http://fingerprintphilippines.weebly.com/uploads/1/1/0/7/11075973/fingerprint_newsletter.pdf

"In 1946, a certain Lt. Asa N. Darby facilitated the establishment of complete fingerprint files in the Division of Investigation and in the year that follows..."




Lyndon Johnson and Mac Wallace - by Joan Mellen - Dawn Meredith - 10-08-2014

Dawn Meredith Wrote:I just met with Pastor and Mrs. Steve Darby, who live a block from me. It was a "chance" meeting. I wandered into a nearby open house and they did too. I told Pastor Darby that I had planned to visit him to ask about Nathan's certification status. Pastor Darby replied that his dad "always kept everything up to date". Of course I already knew this as Nathan Darby was one of the most honest men I have ever been privileged to know and call friend. He would NEVER have perjured himself on that Affidavit. I have a good mind to write an email to Joan and Walt, but I am sure someone has already alerted them to this thread.
Thanks also to my old friend Drew for contacting the IAI. Their response was VERY telling. Pretending not to understand. Sure. So I guess if some lie comes from some fucking government agency -with reason TO lie- is good enough for Joan Mellen to trash the good name of Nathan Darby, then I would question her other "research" methods. Joan nor Walt have never had a single conversation with Nathan.
I will not be commenting further. Those who know me know my personal views on this whole matter.

Dawn

Reposting this for Peter, who emailed me that he can't find this post. As the lies continue. This discussion is now closed for me Peter. You and Joan can carry on, just please do not involve me. I do not care what either she or Walt has to say. Your email yesterday upset me greatly and I in fact could not sleep. Let the liars lie. I want no part of it. Please respect this.
Dawn


Lyndon Johnson and Mac Wallace - by Joan Mellen - Drew Phipps - 10-08-2014

Received the following "receipt acknowledgement" email from Austin PD w/regard to my request for any reports on the burglary of Darby's residence:

"Thank you for your email. It will be forwarded to the appropriate individuals for processing.

If this is an Open Records Request, please be advised that the Police Department's Central Records Division receives over 2000 requests for information a month. Central Records processes those requests in the order received, and strives to respond to each request promptly, as required by law. Please know that, as a result of the large volume of requests received, the anticipated timeframe for responding to your request is approximately 30 days.
Please email management.records@austintexas.gov for follow-up.

Thank you,

Austin Police Department
Public Information Office"


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If anyone has any additional information that might assist in the electronic search please post or PM me.

Hopefully there will be a response soon. I will post it here when it arrives.