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Judge John Tunheim - Bill Kelly - 07-12-2012
MINNEAPOLIS(WCCO) Former Gov Minnesota.Jesse Ventura has lent his high-profile support to an author who says she hasproof Lee Harvey Oswald didn't assassinate President John Kennedy.
http://minnesota.cbslocal.com/2012/12/04/ventura-supporting-author-who-says-oswald-didnt-shoot-jfk/
In ChicagoTuesday morning, Ventura called onthe government to release more documents to reveal what he calls the truthabout JFK's killing in 1963.
"My goal is to exonerate Lee Oswald, and also to get justicefor John Kennedy," said author Judyth Baker.
Ventura joinedBaker who claims to have been Lee Harvey Oswald's former girlfriend, and whohas written a book to prove Oswald didn't kill JFK. She says she was Oswald's19-year-old lover in the summer of 1963 and spoke to him just before thekilling.
Baker and Venturasay the government is withholding documents that would reveal the purportedtruth about the assassination.
"If the government were telling the truth, there would be noreason to lock up anything from the people of this country. Clearly they arenot, because here we are 50 years later, and they are still withholdingdocuments from us," said Ventura.
But a prominent federal judge says all the evidence is outthere and the verdict is in. In fact, assassination experts say virtually everyknown document is public.
Minnesota Federal District Judge Jack Tunheim led anindependent fact-finding commission in Washingtonin the 1990s to review, and declassify, millions of pages of documents relatedto the Kennedy assassination.
Tunheim says all but a few of those documents are nowpublic.
"Is there a cache of records someplace? I don't think so. Welooked as far and as wide as we possibly could," said Tunheim. "It would havebeen a violation of law to not turn over records to us for our decision making.I just don't think there was much left."
Tunheim says after many years of seeing all the availableevidence from Oswald's rifle and bullets to Kennedy's autopsy photos to FBIand CIA documents he has not seen anydirect evidence of any kind to change the verdict, which is that Lee HarveyOswald acted alone.
Judge John Tunheim - Bill Kelly - 07-12-2012
Kelly's Response
JFKcountercoup: Open Letter to Judge John Tunheim
To: Judge John Tunheim
Former Chairman of the Assassinations Records Review Boad
From: William Kelly
Co-Founder of Committee for an Open Archives and COPA.
Re: Statements to the Minnesotta CBS local and as publishedand posted:
It was with deep regret and some indignation that I readyour comments regarding the JFK Assassination records that remain withheld,their numbers and the lack of any other cache of records someplace.
[ http://minnesota.cbslocal.com/2012/12/04/ventura-supporting-author-who-says-oswald-didnt-shoot-jfk/]
The article reports: "But a prominent federal judge says allthe evidence is out there and the verdict is in. In fact, assassination expertssay virtually every known document is public. Minnesota Federal District JudgeJack Tunheim led an independent fact-finding commission in Washingtonin the 1990s to review, and declassify, millions of pages of documents relatedto the Kennedy assassination. Tunheim says all but a few of those documents arenow public."
In fact, there are many thousands of records, especially CIAdocuments that are still being withheld, so many in fact that the NationalArchives and Records Administration (NARA)can't say exactly how many.
The article quotes you saying: "Is there a cache of recordssomeplace? I don't think so. We looked as far and as wide as we possibly could.It would have been a violation of law to not turn over records to us for ourdecision making. I just don't think there was much left.'"
As you know, the ARRB, which you led, was unable to obtainmany assassination records, especially those from the office of the Director ofNaval Intelligence (ONI), the White House Communications Agency (WHCA) and formerchief council to the House Select Committee on Assassinations (HSCA) RichardSprague.
The failure of the ARRB to obtain and secure there recordsbecame apparent when some of them surfaced in private hands, including an editedbut longer version of the Air Force One radio transmission from the effects ofthe President's military aide Gen. Chester Clifton. Other records, includingsome from the director of ONI Rufus Taylor have also been located even thoughthe ARRB could not get any records whatsoever from that office. And I ampersonally in possession of some original assassination records, copies of whichwere given to Richard Sprague when he was counsel to the HSCA, copies he keptafter being forced to leave his post and records that are sill not among theJFK Assassination Records Collection at the NARA.
[http://jfkcountercoup.blogspot.com/2012/11/three-jfk-assassination-records.html]
So, off the top of my head there are three "caches of records" that are someplace other than wherethey should be the JFK Collection, and there are more that I will continue tolist until they are obtained and properly secured. I'vestarted The Great JFK Assassination Records Scavanger Hunt to try to locatethem.
[http://jfkcountercoup.blogspot.com/2012/11/the-great-jfk-assassination-scavanger.html]
I was especially dismayed to read your remark - "Tunheimsays after many years of seeing all the available evidence from Oswald'srifle and bullets to Kennedy's autopsy photos to FBI and CIAdocuments he has not seen any direct evidence of any kind to change theverdict, which is that Lee Harvey Oswald acted alone."
As you know there never was a verdict, there was no trial,Oswald was executed while in the custody of the law and you have not seen allof the available evidence, certainly not the documents still being withhelduntil 2017 or the "caches" that have been kept out of the JFK Collection, soyou are not in a position to determine a verdict.
As you certainly know, your job and the responsibility ofthe ARRB was not to investigate or even find "facts," but to locate, secure andrelease to the public the government records on the assassination, a job thatremains unfinished now over twenty years after Congress passed the JFK Act of1992.
It has been over fifteen years since Congress conducted themandated oversight hearings on the JFK Act, which when it happens, shoulddocument for the record all of the JFK Assassination records that weredestroyed, are missing or remain withheld.
The next time you are questioned by reporters about the JFKassassination records, I suggest that you don't speculate as to the guilt orinnocence of Oswald or the accuracy of the Warren Report conclusions, butinstead call on the NARA to determine theexact number of documents that remain withheld, to include the JFK records inthe 2013 National Declassification review and for Congress to conduct oversighthearings on the JFK Act so the work of the ARRB can be properly evaluated.
Twenty years after, you should be the one asking thequestions.
How many assassination records were destroyed?
How many JFK Assassination records remain withheld?
How many of the ARRB recommendations have been enacted?
Where are the assassination record "caches" that are notpart of the JFK Collection?
Why won't Congress or NARAproperly oversee the JFK Act?
If you could get answers to these questions then you willhave completed the job you began over two decades ago and remains unfinished.
William E. Kelly, Jr.
http://jfkcountercoup.blogspot.com/2012/10/playing-politics-with-history-still.html
http://jfkcountercoup.blogspot.com/2012/10/jf.html
Judge John Tunheim - Adele Edisen - 07-12-2012
Great letter, Bill.
Adele
Judge John Tunheim - Charles Drago - 07-12-2012
Bravo!
Judge John Tunheim - Peter Lemkin - 07-12-2012
:thumbsup:Go Bill!
Judge John Tunheim - LR Trotter - 10-12-2012
Verdict? Not one! Never was one! Could not have ever been one in a fair trial with a competent defense, and an alive defendant. Well stated Mr Kelly.
:what:
Judge John Tunheim - Bill Kelly - 08-01-2013
[URL="http://jfkcountercoup.blogspot.com/2013/01/fbi-had-ss-records-thought-destroyed.html"]
JFKcountercoup: "FBI Had SS Records Thought Destroyed" - Tunheim[/URL]
Judge John Tunheim - Vasilios Vazakas - 09-01-2013
I am curious what Judge Tunheim will reply to Bill's letter and how he'll defend himself.
It's sad that an Honourable Judge like him has joined the likes of Bugliosi and Posner.
Judge John Tunheim - Bill Kelly - 23-01-2013
Vasilios Vazakas Wrote:I am curious what Judge Tunheim will reply to Bill's letter and how he'll defend himself.
It's sad that an Honourable Judge like him has joined the likes of Bugliosi and Posner.
Others, Cyril Wecht in particular, asked the same question, and I might contact him for a response or ask him if he will give me an on-the record interview.
We'll see.
BK
JFKcountercoup
Judge John Tunheim - Dawn Meredith - 23-01-2013
Charles Drago Wrote:Bravo!
Agreed. But you know what? I just do not believe him. I met him in Dallas in 1998 and he struck he as very cold and totally establishment, as are most judges. So I am not really sruprised he is taking this cowardly tact.
It is in keeping with what people with any kind of power do. Don't rock the boat and all. They are such cowards. Intellectually dishonest to the core.
Dawn