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Overlay of films shot in DP - David Josephs - 01-05-2013
I wanted to see how much of the motorcade was filmed and by whom... so I put together this tool which shows which films covered the turn onto Elm, when Nix and Muchmore started, etc...
A number of films capture pieces and parts of the turn onto Elm and yet not one shows the WIDE turn as described by Truly.
I will be adding photographic overlays next...
I hope this can be a valuable tool and helps with your analysis
DJ
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Overlay of films shot in DP - David Josephs - 02-05-2013
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Overlay of films shot in DP - Magda Hassan - 02-05-2013
Wonderful David! Thanks for creating and posting this :thumbsup:
Overlay of films shot in DP - Jan Klimkowski - 02-05-2013
Magda Hassan Wrote:Wonderful David! Thanks for creating and posting this :thumbsup:
Yes, an excellent contribution to the body of research.
David - thank you.
Overlay of films shot in DP - David Josephs - 02-05-2013
Now... if we can only find out what happened to the WIDE TURN onto Elm in Hughes and Towner...
As I watch Towner, it appears like Greer is cutting the corner and comes nowhere near Truly. Same as we see Rosemary run by in Bell and Martin...
I am putting together a very large gif of the Bell corner turn to see how it matches to Towner and others
DJ
Overlay of films shot in DP - David Josephs - 03-05-2013
So why does Truly testify to this happening?
Doesn't show in Towner, Hughes, Martin or Bell.... and was cut out of Zapruder...
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Overlay of films shot in DP - Phil Dragoo - 03-05-2013
Was Truly lying then, is he lying now, or is he not a chronic and habitual liar?
The film is missing the turn as are all films.
Truly misrepresents the turn.
There is no stop in the Z film.
Were the people Palamara presents prevaricating?
http://vincepalamara.com/2012/02/10/59-witnesses-delay-on-elm-street-notes-on-secret-service-agent-bill-greer-the-tale-of-the-tapes/
Overlay of films shot in DP - David Josephs - 06-05-2013
See, now that's just it...
Towner and Martin do catch the turn and it does not appear as Truly describes.
Hughes' turn does not look too wide... yet it seems to stop and start (his film) at some interesting spots
Bell shows the limo already in the center lane as it passes the opening at Elm/Houston...
The little ISLAND that the limo could have come close to is directly in front of the east corner of the open TSBD door..
There does not appear to be a slowing or turning back toward the center of Elm going on...
I'd also like to know how Willis gets from his 3rd photo to his 4th if the motorcade is moving at better than 10mph and does not slow or stop at Elm.
Seems pretty amazing back to back photos and yet do we see Willis running over with his duaghter? She gets there with the limo turning the corner while his photo is much further WEST than the corner...
In the Bell gif, there is someone running thru the opening and then left... maybe Phil?
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Overlay of films shot in DP - Gordon Gray - 06-05-2013
Phil Dragoo Wrote:Was Truly lying then, is he lying now, or is he not a chronic and habitual liar?Not only Truly but Rich De la Rosa, and many of the other witnesses to the "other film", saw the wide turn.
The film is missing the turn as are all films.
Truly misrepresents the turn.
There is no stop in the Z film.
Were the people Palamara presents prevaricating?
http://vincepalamara.com/2012/02/10/59-witnesses-delay-on-elm-street-notes-on-secret-service-agent-bill-greer-the-tale-of-the-tapes/
Overlay of films shot in DP - Gordon Gray - 06-05-2013
David Josephs Wrote:See, now that's just it...Towner , Hughes, and most likely Zapruder, have been edited at the point of the turn in the same spot. I have always found Bob Harris' theory of a first shot at this point intriguing. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CXWC87-WOKU
Towner and Martin do catch the turn and it does not appear as Truly describes.
Hughes' turn does not look too wide... yet it seems to stop and start (his film) at some interesting spots
Bell shows the limo already in the center lane as it passes the opening at Elm/Houston...
The little ISLAND that the limo could have come close to is directly in front of the east corner of the open TSBD door..
There does not appear to be a slowing or turning back toward the center of Elm going on...
I'd also like to know how Willis gets from his 3rd photo to his 4th if the motorcade is moving at better than 10mph and does not slow or stop at Elm.
Seems pretty amazing back to back photos and yet do we see Willis running over with his duaghter? She gets there with the limo turning the corner while his photo is much further WEST than the corner...
In the Bell gif, there is someone running thru the opening and then left... maybe Phil?
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