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From James Fetzer's Group - for those interested - Adele Edisen - 07-06-2013

Thu, June 6, 2013 9:38:57 AMOIC JFK Truth Gathering 11/22/13
From: Ed T <uncleed33@hotmail.com> View Contact
To: Ed <uncleed33@hotmail.com>


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FROM JAMES FETZER'S GROUP:




----- Forwarded Message ----
From: Ralph Cinque <oswaldinnocent@yahoo.com>
Sent: Wed, June 5, 2013 10:38:38 AM
Subject: OIC JFK Truth Gathering 11/22/13


I am pleased to announce that on November 22, the Oswald Innocence Campaign shall hold its JFK Truth Gathering- the premiere event to commemorate the 50th anniversary of the JFK assassination. We are gathering together because we want to be together on that special today to acknowledge that 50 years earlier, the "national security state" murdered President Kennedy for pursuing peace.

We have an 8 hour program planned that will consist of 6 1/2 hours of informative presentations followed by 1 1/2 hours of music, socializing, dancing, and fun. We will be commemorating but also celebrating. We will be celebrating our awareness of JFK truth and our strong conviction that that truth shall prevail, that the "state lie" that Lee Harvey Oswald murdered JFK shall not endure.

First, the location: it will be beautiful Santa Barbara, California.

Why not Dallas? It's because other groups will be gathering in Dallas, and we have no desire to bang heads with them. Our stand is unequivocal: the hit was ordered by the highest levels of government, including key figures in the CIA, the FBI, the US military, and from within Kennedy's own administration, including Vice President Lyndon Johnson. Oswald was only a patsy; he was framed. And he was standing in the doorway at the time of the shots.

The exact site is the elegant Fess Parker Doubletree Hotel, which is right on the beach in the resort area of Santa Barbara. It is a spectacular 5 star hotel. Here is their website:

http://www.fessparkersantabarbarahotel.com/

Here is the roster of speakers, but it is not finalized. Jim Fetzer will be working on that this week and will let us know. And note that these are not the exact titles of the speeches except for mine. Jim will be releasing a formal event schedule soon.

1:00 Phillip Nelson speaks on the LBJ connection
2:00 John Hankey, on the George HW Bush connection
3:00 Peter Janney, on the sequel to JFK: the murder of Mary Pinchot Meyer
4:00 Ralph Cinque on the photographic flim-flam that followed Altgens6
4:40 Larry Rivera on the special role of Wesley Frazier in the assassination cover-up
5:00 Judyth Baker with special insights on Lee Harvey Oswald
5:30 Dinner break
7:00: Professor David Wrone on the Framing of the Man in the Doorway
7:30: Keynote speaker: Professor James Fetzer on What Really Happened in Dealey Plaza on 11/22/63

Then from 9 to 10:30, it shall be music, dancing, and socializing, with music by the Pacific Coast Blues Band, including a performance of their new song, He Didn't Do It, an anthem for JFK truth. Here is their website:
http://www.pacificcoastbluessb.com/PACIFIC_COAST_BLUES_Band_Santa_Barbara/Home_Page.html

The event will also include a walk-through photographic exhibit with large productions by Richard Hooke, Ralph Cinque, Donald Fallon, and Larry Rivera. Richard will have the most of these- including his poster of 50 matching points between Oswald and Doorway Man- and he has agreed to be available to answer questions and provide guidance.

We are charging attendees $50 each, but of course, the speakers are exempt. The money will go towards the rental of the hotel conference room for the day and evening. It will cover an excellent audio visual system, including a live technician who will be constantly present to address any glitches, should they occur. It will include the cost of the band and the fee for private security. It will also cover printing costs and possibly some promotional costs, although we intend to make use of free online resources as much as possible for promotion. And at the end, any money left over will be distributed among the speakers to help defray their travel expenses.

I know how busy everyone is, and I know it's expensive to travel. But this is surely going to be THE JFK event of our lifetime. And it's about time the OIC members met and shook hands and formed bonds. And you know that the government and the media will be pulling all the stops to sell the official story- the official lie- one more time. The best way to stand up to them is for us to stand together in Santa Barbara. Be willing to devote one full day to JFK truth because it's a part of who you are, part of your identity, is it not?

Think about your state of mind on November 22. Is there anything else you would rather be doing on that day than congregating with us, the Oswald Innocence Campaign?

We are accepting reservations as of now, so please make my day by responding to me here to say that you're going to come.

We are making our stand against the liars, the fakers, the myth-makers, the stalematers, and last but not least, the killers, and it's happening in Santa Barbara. We are taking on the Establishment- the political establishment and the research establishment- and we're doing it in Santa Barbara. And it will be without compromise. It was JFK killed by the high and mighty, including future Presidents. It was Oswald framed, innocent, and standing in the doorway. And it's been 50 years of lies, cover-up, and distortion by the government and the media. Stop the lies! Oswald outside!

Join us in Santa Barbara, and we'll give them a 22nd of November they'll never forget!


From James Fetzer's Group - for those interested - Albert Doyle - 07-06-2013

The Sunstein Festival.


Whether intentional or not a convention of the worst wack theorists is the worst possible scenario for the anniversary.


This is a DiEugenio easy target shooting gallery (lol)...


From James Fetzer's Group - for those interested - Jan Klimkowski - 07-06-2013

Fear of a disaster and travesty such as this is precisely why the DPF founders voted to ban Jim Fetzer, having already banned the snake oil salesman known as "Cinque".

The thread containing our rationale can be found here.

The Moderators Wrote:DPF Bans Professor James H. Fetzer: The Rationale.

The Oswald Innocence Campaign, in their own words, is "a gathering of researchers, and concerned individuals, committed to spreading the truth that Lee Harvey Oswald was the "Man in the Doorway" in the famous photo, by Ike Altgens, which thereby exonerates Oswald of having shot at President Kennedy. In this case, a picture really is worth a million words, since it trumps the massive media effort to the contrary. We are taking a stand for what, upon close examination, the photo clearly reveals and cannot be denied by rational thinking people. The founding of the OIC marks a sea change in JFK research. A new breed of JFK researcher has emerged. Nevertheless, there are those on the internet, such S.V. Anderson and other "lone gunman" shills, who comb internet forums and cannot quite figure out why I, and others, of this new breed of conspiracy theorist, are so persistent and will not be silenced. The moment for the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth has come."

As research on the Deep Politics Forum and elsewhere has demonstrated, the photograph known as Altgens 6 is simply incapable of being used as "proof" that Lee Harvey Oswald was standing in a doorway on the streets of Dealy Plaza, and thus could not have been on the sixth floor shooting at President Kennedy. There is not enough "information" in the image to make the definitive judgement claimed by Fetzer and co. The claim also contradicts the most reliable witness evidence, which places Oswald in the vicinity of the Book Store's coke machine.

However, more fundamentally, such analysis of Altgens 6 is entirely irrelevant to Oswald's innocence. Decades of research into the life of Lee Harvey Oswald, into the circles in which he moved, into the plots prior to the assassination, into the nature of the deep political coverup after the assassination, and into the real historical context of JFK's presidency, expose the claim that "a picture really is worth a million words" as crude disinformation.

This promotion of "Oswald in the doorway" as the smoking gun that proves Oswald's innocence is deeply disturbing, as it will inevitably be shown as a massively overstated interpretation of the available evidence and thus tarnish the efforts of the entire research community.

Indeed, why is it that just before the 50th anniversary of the public slaughter of JFK, Fetzer and co announce the ridiculous vehicle known as the "Oswald Innocence Campaign"?

It feels more media stunt than serious research effort, and perhaps belongs in the faux and ephemeral sphere of the Blair Witch Project - an Oswald Innocence Project to entertain and titillate the masses.

We, the founders and owners of DPF, are deeply suspicious.

Here is how it is likely to play out.

MSM will be delighted to invite the sexily named Oswald Innocence Campaign members into newsrooms and onto anniversary documentaries. MSM will be delighted precisely because they know this supposed smoking gun, the interpretation of Altgens 6 as proof that Oswald was in the doorway, can be demolished in a moment. The claim can be demolished because the research community, of which DPF is a part, has already destroyed it.

Fundamentally, Altgens 6 cannot support the weight of interpretation placed upon it by the OIC.

End result: MSM has its cake and eats it. The self-proclaimed "Conspiracy Theorists" of the OIC are invited to make their best case, they put forward Altgens 6, MSM feigns interest then destroys the argument without raising so much as a sweat. And thus the meme that "you can't trust a Conspiracy Theorist to get anything right" is reinforced.

The circus continues.

The show goes on.

Fetzer and co chirp: "The founding of the OIC marks a sea change in JFK research. A new breed of JFK researcher has emerged."

Indeed. An incredibly stupid breed.

For some time, the founders and owners of DPF have been dismayed at the declining quality of Jim Fetzer's research in all deep political areas. The ludicrous and thoroughly debunked "Oswald in the doorway" theory is the final provocation.

We, the founders and owners of DPF, remain committed to shining light into the dark and shadowy reaches of deep political structures.

We also remain committed to exposing disinformation publicly, in stark daylight.

Once disinformation has been exposed, we will refuse to allow DPF to be used for the purposes of propaganda or Sunsteinian psy ops.

After reflection and discussion, we have decided upon the following courses of action:

i) to lock the "Oswald in the Doorway" thread, so it is not open to further comment. However, it will remain online in the interests of public education and exposure of the theory's total lack of credibility;

ii) to ban Jim Fetzer, as we have now concluded, with sadness, that his self-proclaimed "Conspiracy Theories" are the very worst examples of that discredited form, causing only damage to legitimate, considered, rigorous research.



From James Fetzer's Group - for those interested - Tracy Riddle - 07-06-2013

One of Fetzer's supporters made a YouTube video claiming that the Altgens photo had been tampered with to put Lovelady's face over Oswald's. When I left a comment pointing out that the Altgens photo was published on the AP wires just 30 minutes after the assassination, my comment was deleted and I was blocked from leaving any more.


From James Fetzer's Group - for those interested - Magda Hassan - 07-06-2013

All of the insane and deluded gathered in one venue. A padded room? God, I'm so pleased not to have thpose two here any more.


From James Fetzer's Group - for those interested - Jeffrey Orling - 08-06-2013

I could see Fetzer was a loony from the first post I read of his on Where did the Towers Go? The same place as his mind...