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Homeland/Heimat/Volkland - David Guyatt - 05-10-2013

Lauren Johnson Wrote:Thanks for removing JO. I have been intensely involved with him from his very first posts. His attitudes toward deep politics were always the most troubling. Even though his expertise is undeniable, it always was closely associated with his constantly shifting and at times incoherent thinking. He had an agenda. Was he a paid shill? Magda would say that he was a professional and didn't need money. Was he an unpaid shill? Was he a shill at all? Was he sincerely and consistently wrong? Was he just stubborn? I don't know. But I would advocate that if this kind of thing happens again, that you take swift action. I do think that JO should have been placed on moderation and sent to Deep Politics school from which he would have had to graduate before posting again.

But once again, I am glad for this action.

And David, thanks for the compliment, but I have to admit that the idea is not original. I have concluded however that the strategy-of-tension acts we are seeing are designed to create social reality, which means introducing new words into common usage? How often did you hear the word "homeland" before 9/11. Here in the states, I only heard used in a fascist context. I was shocked to hear the word being trumpeted around the MSM. "Shelter in place" now conditions us to expect a military appearance in the streets. Terrorism. Global war on terror. Enhanced interrogation. Many others.

Lauren, "Homeland" always raise the spectre of "Fatherland" for me. I think with reason too.


Homeland/Heimat/Volkland - Lauren Johnson - 06-10-2013

Quote:Lauren, "Homeland" always raise the spectre of "Fatherland" for me. I think with reason too.

Exactly. Out of nowhere we were hearing the language: Protect the Homeland. Which meant go start a war some other place.


Homeland/Heimat/Volkland - Peter Lemkin - 06-10-2013

Lauren Johnson Wrote:
Quote:Lauren, "Homeland" always raise the spectre of "Fatherland" for me. I think with reason too.

Exactly. Out of nowhere we were hearing the language: Protect the Homeland. Which meant go start a war some other place.

Think its an important topic, but likely best on its own thread after this.....the term 'homeland' and 'homeland security' did NOT exist in the USA UNTIL the New Pearl Harbor. It is a translation of the term the Nazis used: Heimat :Confusedhock:::Nazis:


Homeland/Heimat/Volkland - Lauren Johnson - 06-10-2013

Peter Lemkin Wrote:
Lauren Johnson Wrote:
Quote:Lauren, "Homeland" always raise the spectre of "Fatherland" for me. I think with reason too.

Exactly. Out of nowhere we were hearing the language: Protect the Homeland. Which meant go start a war some other place.

Think its an important topic, but likely best on its own thread after this.....the term 'homeland' and 'homeland security' did NOT exist in the USA UNTIL the New Pearl Harbor. It is a translation of the term the Nazis used: Heimat :Confusedhock:::Nazis:

In addition, it is the beginning of a major new way to transfer money from the citizen to the private sector.