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IPCC projections of mega-drought - Lauren Johnson - 02-02-2014 By all means, scroll down and look at the rainfall projections (IPCC) for Western North America up to 2100 C.E. Just stare at it. In other words, the Southwest & California have just barely started to experience the drought. from : Dr. Jeff Masters, January 31, 2014: Quote:California's first significant snow storm of 2014 hit the Sierras on Wednesday and Thursday, dumping up to 2 feet of snow, with a melted water equivalent of up to two inches. However, this modest snowstorm was not enough to keep the Sierra snowpack from recording its lowest snow amounts in more than 50 years of record keeping during Thursday's Sierra Snow Survey. The survey found a snow pack that was only 12% of normal for this time of year. Until Thursday, the lowest statewide snowpack measurement at this time of year was 21% of average, in 1991 and 1963, according to the Los Angeles Times. Since snowpack in the Sierras forms a crucial source of water for California, the dismal snow survey results are a huge concern. IPCC projections of mega-drought - Magda Hassan - 02-02-2014 I heard some thing on the radio in the last couple of days that there is no more government supplied water in California? :: How does that work? IPCC projections of mega-drought - Lauren Johnson - 02-02-2014 Magda Hassan Wrote:I heard some thing on the radio in the last couple of days that there is no more government supplied water in California? :: How does that work? All the water to the cities comes out of the Sierras and Mtns up going into Shasta Lake? Remember the picture of the lake drying up? Shasta. I can only presume that water is regulated in some way by some govt. agency, and that agency is saying no mas. How does it work? Not well. IPCC projections of mega-drought - Peter Lemkin - 02-02-2014 Southern CA is an unsustainable population - it mostly being a desert which is stealing water from the mountains in Northern CA....but that was going to come to an end even without the climate change..and now it has come with a vengeance. Let them fill their swimming pools with bottled water from Tahiti! Look at these photos here! http://www.wunderground.com/news/stunning-photos-californias-lakes-depleted-extreme-drought-20140123?pageno=1 Severe Drought Has U.S. West Fearing WorstBy ADAM NAGOURNEY and IAN LOVETTFEB. 1, 2014VIEW SLIDE SHOW|10 PhotosA Deepening Drought in the WestA Deepening Drought in the WestMax Whittaker for The New York TimesLOS ANGELES The punishing drought that has swept California is now threatening the state's drinking water supply. With no sign of rain, 17 rural communities providing water to 40,000 people are in danger of running out within 60 to 120 days. State officials said that the number was likely to rise in the months ahead after the State Water Project, the main municipal water distribution system, announced on Friday that it did not have enough water to supplement the dwindling supplies of local agencies that provide water to an additional 25 million people. It is first time the project has turned off its spigot in its 54-year history. RELATED COVERAGE
Launch media viewer A once-submerged car at a California reservoir. Jim Wilson/The New York Times"Every day this drought goes on we are going to have to tighten the screws on what people are doing" said Gov. Jerry Brown, who was governor during the last major drought here, in 1976-77. This latest development has underscored the urgency of a drought that has already produced parched fields, starving livestock, and pockets of smog. "We are on track for having the worst drought in 500 years," said B. Lynn Ingram, a professor of earth and planetary sciences at the University of California, Berkeley. Already the drought, technically in its third year, is forcing big shifts in behavior. Farmers in Nevada said they had given up on even planting, while ranchers in Northern California and New Mexico said they were being forced to sell off cattle as fields that should be four feet high with grass are a blanket of brown and stunted stalks. Fishing and camping in much of California has been outlawed, to protect endangered salmon and guard against fires. Many people said they had already begun to cut back drastically on taking showers, washing their car and watering their lawns. Rain and snow showers brought relief in parts of the state at the week's end people emerging from a movie theater in West Hollywood on Thursday evening broke into applause upon seeing rain splattering on the sidewalk but they were nowhere near enough to make up for record-long dry stretches, officials said. "I have experienced a really long career in this area, and my worry meter has never been this high," said Tim Quinn, executive director of the Association of California Water Agencies, a statewide coalition. "We are talking historical drought conditions, no supplies of water in many parts of the state. My industry's job is to try to make sure that these kind of things never happen. And they are happening." Officials are girding for the kind of geographical, cultural and economic battles that have long plagued a part of the country that is defined by a lack of water: between farmers and environmentalists, urban and rural users, and the northern and southern regions of this state. "We do have a politics of finger-pointing and blame whenever there is a problem," said Mr. Brown. "And we have a problem, so there is going to be a tendency to blame people." President Obama called him last week to check on the drought situation and express his concern. Tom Vilsack, secretary of the federal Agriculture Department, said in an interview that his agency's ability to help farmers absorb the shock, with subsidies to buy food for cattle, had been undercut by the long deadlock in Congress over extending the farm bill, which finally seemed to be resolved last week. Mr. Vilsack called the drought in California a "deep concern," and a warning sign of trouble ahead for much of the West. "That's why it's important for us to take climate change seriously," he said. "If we don't do the research, if we don't have the financial assistance, if we don't have the conservation resources, there's very little we can do to help these farmers." The crisis is unfolding in ways expected and unexpected. Near Sacramento, the low level of streams has brought out prospectors, sifting for flecks of gold in slow-running waters. To the west, the heavy water demand of growers of medical marijuana six gallons per plant per day during a 150-day period is drawing down streams where salmon and other endangered fish species spawn. "Every pickup truck has a water tank in the back," said Scott Bauer, a coho salmon recovery coordinator with theCalifornia Department of Fish and Wildlife. "There is a potential to lose whole runs of fish." Without rain to scrub the air, pollution in the Los Angeles basin, which has declined over the past decade, has returned to dangerous levels, as evident from the brown-tinged air. Homeowners have been instructed to stop burning wood in their fireplaces. In the San Joaquin Valley, federal limits for particulate matter were breached for most of December and January. Schools used flags to signal when children should play indoors. "One of the concerns is that as concentrations get higher, it affects not only the people who are most susceptible, but healthy people as well," said Karen Magliano, assistant chief of the air quality planning division of the state's Air Resources Board. The impact has been particularly severe on farmers and ranchers. "I have friends with the ground torn out, all ready to go," said Darrell Pursel, who farms just south of Yerington, Nev. "But what are you going to plant? At this moment, it looks like we're not going to have any water. Unless we get a lot of rain, I know I won't be planting anything." The University of California Cooperative Extension held adrought survival session last week in Browns Valley, about 60 miles north of Sacramento, drawing hundreds of ranchers in person and online. "We have people coming from six or seven hours away," said Jeffrey James, who ran the session. Dan Macon, 46, a rancher in Auburn, Calif., said the situation was "as bad as I have ever experienced. Most of our range lands are essentially out of feed." With each parched sunrise, a sense of alarm is rising amid signs that this is a drought that comes along only every few centuries. Sacramento had gone 52 days without water, and Albuquerque had gone 42 days without rain or snow as of Saturday. The snowpack in the Sierra Nevada, which supplies much of California with water during the dry season, was at just 12 percent of normal last week, reflecting the lack of rain or snow in December and January. "When we don't have rainfall in our biggest two months, you really are starting off bad," said Dar Mims, a meteorologist with the Air Resources Board. Even as officials move into action, people who have lived through droughts before albeit none as severe as this said they were doing triage in their gardens (water the oak tree, not the lawn) and taking classic "stop-start-stop-start" shower. Jacob Battersby, a producer in Oakland, said he began cutting back even before the voluntary restrictions were announced. "My wife and I both enjoy gardening," he wrote in an email. " Sorry, plants. You will be getting none to drink this winter.' " IPCC projections of mega-drought - David Guyatt - 02-02-2014 And over here in the west country, there is almost constant flooding. And I imagine it is this that has led to an outspoken speech by the Prince of Wales, who used language like "there barrage f sheer intimidation" from "powerful interest groups" who were "turning accepted science on its head" etc" Quote:It is baffling that in our modern world we have such blind trust in science and technology that we all accept what science tells us about everything until, that is, it comes to climate science. All of a sudden, and with a barrage of sheer intimidation, we are told by powerful groups of deniers that the scientists are wrong and we must abandon all our faith in so much overwhelming scientific evidence. Whatever anyone thinks of him, he at least is hitting out at the right targets. IPCC projections of mega-drought - Magda Hassan - 03-02-2014 David Guyatt Wrote:And over here in the west country, there is almost constant flooding.Yes. Don't like the monarchy at all and he is a liar and cad when it comes to women but I do admire his use of his position when it comes to environmental matters. Though do wonder what his actual carbon foot print is....and what he has his money invested in. Does he really put his money where his mouth is? Don't really know enough on that matter. Nevertheless, those wanting business as usual are in business from the status quo and doing quite nicely and see it as an economic threat. Personally, regardless of the 'truth' of the science on ACC there are a thousand reasons to move to a zero emmissions culture for everyone. I can only see it as a win win for the planet and life in general. Definitely past it use by date. I saw the remarkable damage from the sea swells in Spain today and wonder if that will head UK way over the Bay of Bisquay and Celtic Sea? IPCC projections of mega-drought - David Guyatt - 03-02-2014 Well, there's this. The west country continues to get badly hit. IPCC projections of mega-drought - Magda Hassan - 03-02-2014 David Guyatt Wrote:Well, there's this.Oh, my that is quite some thing.:: |