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Malaysian plane crashes on Ukraine-Russia border - live - Magda Hassan - 17-07-2014 Well this will be awkward. I'm putting it here until it becomes clear what is happening. In any case it will probably be the end of Malaysian Airlines as a business. Two planes lost in very odd circumstances. Quote: Malaysian plane crashes on Ukraine-Russia border - live Malaysian plane crashes on Ukraine-Russia border - live - Peter Lemkin - 17-07-2014 Cue in the Twilight Zone music........::lilgreenman::: :::trenchcoatspy::A Boeing 777 full of passengers - but it doesn't really make sense....in the 'usual sense', as an airline would be flying at high altitude and easily identifiable as a civilian airline.....while ground to air missiles can reach such altitudes, those that can reach such heights are built to differentiate foes from 'friends' [including civilian aircraft]. 295 dead!!!! - and a hell of a lot of commercial planes fly in that HUGE area - will any dare to fly there now?!!? I'll bet not...one can 'fly around', but that will add cost and a few hours to a flight...and make some flights totally impossible in the immediate area. All three sides are pointing fingers at the others - 'they did it, and we did not'...: : Despite the fact that a civilian airliner flying at high altitude [cruising altitude usually between 30,000 to 39,000 feet] should be safe, it is quite insane to fly over an active combat area - and it seems it was shot down in just the most contested area on the Ukraine/Russian border.
Malaysian plane crashes on Ukraine-Russia border - live - Magda Hassan - 17-07-2014 I will note that the Russian earlier today were denying the downing of the Ukrainian military transport plane that crashed this morning or last night. Malaysian plane crashes on Ukraine-Russia border - live - Magda Hassan - 17-07-2014 Also this plane would have been cruising at top altitude on its way from Kuala Lumour to Amsterdam. It wouldn't be like the Ukrainian military planes swooping on the eastern anti-junta militias when they drop their bombs on them. And who would confuse the 2 very different types of planes? Only some completely one blind. Malaysian plane crashes on Ukraine-Russia border - live - Peter Lemkin - 17-07-2014 Unconfirmed, but it is now being stated that it was shot down by a BUK Russian-made missile. Time will tell. Any side could have such..... Again, I believe such a system would be able to recognize a civilian from a military plane....if one knew how to use it and if one wanted to discriminate. Also, it is possible the passenger plane might unknowingly have flown over a military plane - and the missile changed target. Or - someone wanted to bring down a civilian plane not involved in the conflict...but I doubt it....all sides now will be very circumspect to try other shoot downs, I hope. Malaysian plane crashes on Ukraine-Russia border - live - Magda Hassan - 17-07-2014 Ah, sorry Peter I didn't see your post above until now. Malaysian plane crashes on Ukraine-Russia border - live - Peter Lemkin - 17-07-2014 It is a minor issue, but yes, Malaysian Airlines, which has been struggling since the disappearance of their plane is soon to be bankrupt and gone.....due to this. Experts are saying that a determination of who actually fired the missile is limited to the USA and Russia only, via spy satellites....and don't be surprised if the two do not agree. Besides the tragic loss of life, this could potentially bring the US and Russia very near a stand-down, if not played very carefully! In fact, as I write this it was just announced that Putin and Obama have spoken to prevent any nervous trigger fingers towards more serious 'things'. Malaysian plane crashes on Ukraine-Russia border - live - Magda Hassan - 17-07-2014 Peter Lemkin Wrote:It is a minor issue, but yes, Malaysian Airlines, which has been struggling since the disappearance of their plane is soon to be bankrupt and gone.....due to this. Experts are saying that a determination of who actually fired the missile is limited to the USA and Russia only, via spy satellites....and don't be surprised if the two do not agree. Besides the tragic loss of life, this could potentially bring the US and Russia very near a stand-down, if not played very carefully! Yes indeed! I note how quick Ukraine was to point fingers at rebels and to collect the wreckage too. May have just fallen down because of poor maintenance though. Malaysian plane crashes on Ukraine-Russia border - live - Tracy Riddle - 17-07-2014 Notice again what the debris fields of real airliners looks like when they go down, unlike Pennsylvania/Pentagon on 9/11. Malaysian plane crashes on Ukraine-Russia border - live - Albert Doyle - 17-07-2014 Today is the 18th anniversary of the missile shootdown of TWA 800. |