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Morales assassins: Bolivia gang "fought in Balkans" - Jan Klimkowski - 03-02-2010 Quote:Marinkovic charged with terrorism and armed uprising http://www.bolpress.com/art.php?Cod=2010020201 More on Croatian landowner, Branko Marinkovic, see eg here: http://www.deeppoliticsforum.com/forums/showpost.php?p=6869&postcount=90 The assassin and mercenary, Eduardo Rózsa Flores, was given honourary Croatian citizenship by the butcher Franjo Tuđman, for the ruthless dirty tricks performed by Rózsa Flores' notorious criminal and neo-fascist "International Brigade" during the Balkan Wars of the 1990s. Morales assassins: Bolivia gang "fought in Balkans" - Ruben Mundaca - 05-02-2010 Jan Klimkowski Wrote:Quote:Marinkovic charged with terrorism and armed uprising You mean Marcelo Sosa, Morale's prosecutor...???.. The same prosecutor that kindapped people in the middle of the night and carry them to La Paz, to be prosecuted by Morale's judges, like Betty Yañiquez and others, violating all bolivian laws and human rights....?.. That doesen't care to prosecute "terrorists" with evident signs of brutal police torture...??... http://www.fmbolivia.com.bo/noticia11206-elot-toazo-recusa-a-juez-betty-yaniquez-por-supuesta-audiencia-ilegal.html http://www.lostiempos.com/diario/actualidad/nacional/20090509/%E2%80%9Cterrorismo%E2%80%9D-acusado-desmiente-a-fiscal-sosa_6595_11118.html He doesen't care to gather "information" under torture, to kidnapp oppositors from their home and carry them to La Paz (thousands kilometers away from their homes) to be judged not by their jurisdictional natural judge (is like if you have supposedly committed a felony in Texas and they carry you to be judged in New York). Since there is no Constitutional Tribunal of Guarantees in Bolivia (Morales destroyed in his first year of government), very little can be done against those abuses. Dozens of citizens are chased by Marcelo Sosa (all of them oppositors) with no proofs; or "proofs" obtained by torture, blackmail or money. The most notorius case is Leopoldo Fenandez, the so called "the Pando butcher" by Morale's media and propaganda. It is evident that he has no participation in the Pando's killings and he try to avoid it asking the police, army and even church help (killings organized by Morales and his militia), but he is in prision more than a year and a half ago, with not even a formal charge against him. Its so shameful. But "honest Jhon" prosecutor Marcelo Sosa doesen't move a finger to investigate the charge in the media made it by Blusher Alpire, assassin hired by Juan Ramon Quintana (Morale's Minister) to buy the weapons and organize the confrontation. http://www.fmbolivia.com.bo/noticia7150-blusher-alpire-testigo-dice-que-en-pando-ayudo-a-armar-a-campesinos.html That is the kind of "public prosecutor" "acusations Morales assassins: Bolivia gang "fought in Balkans" - Ruben Mundaca - 05-02-2010 Jan Klimkowski Wrote:Quote:Marinkovic charged with terrorism and armed uprising You mean Marcelo Sosa, Morale's prosecutor...???.. The same prosecutor that kindapped people in the middle of the night and carry them to La Paz, to be prosecuted by Morale's judges, like Betty Yañiquez and others, violating all bolivian laws and human rights....?.. That doesen't care to prosecute "terrorists" with evident signs of brutal police torture...??... http://www.fmbolivia.com.bo/noticia11206-elot-toazo-recusa-a-juez-betty-yaniquez-por-supuesta-audiencia-ilegal.html http://www.lostiempos.com/diario/actualidad/nacional/20090509/%E2%80%9Cterrorismo%E2%80%9D-acusado-desmiente-a-fiscal-sosa_6595_11118.html He doesen't care to gather "information" under torture, to kidnapp oppositors from their home and carry them to La Paz (thousands kilometers away from their homes) to be judged not by their jurisdictional natural judge (is like if you have supposedly committed a felony in Texas and they carry you to be judged in New York). Since there is no Constitutional Tribunal of Guarantees in Bolivia (Morales destroyed in his first year of government), very little can be done against those abuses. Dozens of citizens are chased by Marcelo Sosa (all of them oppositors) with no proofs; or "proofs" obtained by torture, blackmail or money. The most notorius case is Leopoldo Fenandez, the so called "the Pando butcher" by Morale's media and propaganda. It is evident that he has no participation in the Pando's killings and he try to avoid it asking help to the police, army and even church (killings organized by Morales and his militia), but he is in prision more than a year and a half ago, with not even a formal charge against him. Its so shameful. But "honest Jhon" prosecutor Marcelo Sosa doesen't move a finger to investigate the statement in the media made it by Blusher Alpire, assassin hired by Juan Ramon Quintana (Morale's Minister) to buy the weapons and organize the confrontation. http://www.fmbolivia.com.bo/noticia7150-blusher-alpire-testigo-dice-que-en-pando-ayudo-a-armar-a-campesinos.html http://www.elmundo.com.bo/Secundarianew.asp?edicion=08/10/2008&Tipo=Nacional&Cod=8218 http://www.ernestojustiniano.org/2008/10/revelan-supuesto-plan-militar-para-tomar-el-oriente/ By the way, José melgar, the journalist that caugth in tape the statement of Juan Ramon Quintana thereatening Pando's governator the days before to the massacre, is in jail until now accussed by Marcelo Sosa of "conspiracy" (conspiracy because he put in tape the Morale's minister statement...???...:eek:..) That is the kind of public prosecutor "charges" agains Marinkovic you are bringing to our attention, Jan ...????... By the way, ALL oppositors in Bolivia are charged and chased by Morale's dog Marcelo Sosa (not a single important one left aside). That was EXACTLY Morale's purpose WHEN HE HIRED EDUARDO ROSZA FLORES. Do you understand now...???... You need more explanations...??... Many oppositors has flew away from Bolivia due to the legal imposibility to defend themselves from Morale's prosecutor and Morale's judges abuses (there is no Tribunal of Constitutional Guarantees, remember..??..). Some has stayed no matter what, as the governor of Santa Cruz. But most of them are not politicians, just family guys who prefer to go away pressed by their wife and kids. - By the way: Wrong again. Branko Marinkovic IS NOT a "croatian landowner" as you stated. He is a bolivian citizen. He born here, he grow here, he married here and he has his kids here. His father was a croatian. Hey you, the rest of american forum members....!!!...You ARE NOT americans... !!!. You are Europeans (or africans or chinese or whatever). You have no rights to be there... Take you kids, go away and return to Europe..!!!! (of course, first you have to convince the europeans you are not americans) Morales assassins: Bolivia gang "fought in Balkans" - Jan Klimkowski - 05-02-2010 Senor Mundaca - I see you're still pushing the theory that President Morales hired Eduardo Rózsa Flores. Let's just remind ourselves of who Rózsa Flores is: Jan Klimkowski Wrote:Rózsa Flores' activities from 1990 onwards clearly identify him as an assassin and mercenary willing to commit atrocities in the name of racist, far right, causes and blame them on his opponents. Tudjman, the Croatian butcher, made him an honourary Croatian for his dirty tricks and war crimes during the Balkan Wars. Now let me see.... :listen: Who is more likely to have hired the racist butcher and mercenary Eduardo Rózsa Flores? Evo Morales - President of Bolivia and supporter of the rights of the indigenous Aymara and Quechua people? Or.... Branco Marinkovic - right-wing Croatian landowner and supporter of secession from Bolivia for the resource-rich province of Santa Cruz? Morales assassins: Bolivia gang "fought in Balkans" - Ruben Mundaca - 06-02-2010 Señora Jan: If all of us apply asumptions as you do, we may be still in the dark ages. What I am showing you are not assumptions. Are facts. The first thing to know in evry event, is who wins and who lose with. Clearly, Branko has losed evrything here in Bolivia, except his family and the deep respect gained by the people. Not a single word of separatism has come from him. I respect him very much. His father was a hard worker who begin with almost nothing and their sons work at the side of their employees since they where kids. They had a very difficult beginning and you can't find nobody in Santa Cruz who claim to be battered or swindlered by them. You are right in one thing: We have to compare the quality of people we are talking about. Your president Morales lose by faaaaar compared with Branko. There is not a single proof that linked Rosza with Marinkovic, except the eventuality that both has croatian roots (very well expolited by Morales. In fact, some say that he hired Rosza because his Croatian roots). Is not the first time that Morales hire assassins. If you see my previous post, there is a statement made by Blusher Alpire, former assassin hired by Juan Ramon Quintana, Morale's minister. Now : we have to be very childish to think that he do that without Morale's permission. Is not the first time that Morales order to kill people, either. In year 2.000, he (together with his former lover Margarita Terán) ordered the assassination of the Andrade couple in Chapare region. He was not convicted not because he was not guilty (there are eyewitness of the fact), but because the coca farmers he command blocks the bolivian main road during many weeks, paralyzing the commerce and exports of all nation. The government those days, in his desesperation, agreed not to prosecute him allowing Morales to present false proofs and versions of the fact. The weakness of justice and a tolerant judge do the rest, giving him impunity and a new discourse that he was "chased", claiming to be a "victim". Here is the truth: http://www.boliviahoy.com/modules/news/article.php?storyid=4764 Until now, nobody has been convicted of that horrible crime. Now you know why when the brothers of Margarita Teran (his former lover and complice in the Andrade couple assassination) where caught by DEA traffiking with more than 100 kilos of cocaine, Morale's reaction was to expell DEA from Bolivia. They are free now. http://www.lostiempos.com/diario/actualidad/local/20091010/hermanas-teran-faltan-a-audiencia-en-tribunales_40119_67750.html Now señora Jan: You still want to compare Marinkovic with Morales..??.. Because I can fill this forum with Morale's felonies. And you will be in disavantage trying to criminalize Branko Marinkovic because you will find nothing, except the charge of Morale's prosecutor and some "assumptions" you can make ( Like "he is a croatian landowner" rich and because that, he is a "separatist" linked with Ustacha, Mossad, USA, Rosza, Opus Dei, fascists, etc, etc.) No, señora Jan: he is a hard worker man, a family guy with no dirty political experience (his only political experience in his life was to lead the Comite Pro Santa Cruz. That is considered the highest honor in Santa Cruz region). But he give all in his carryng out of his duty: he give most of his fortune and lost much money with Morale's economic war against him, he is now chased and prosecuted, he is in personal danger and the worst: he put HIS FAMILY (sisters, wife and kids) in danger. I can't ask more from a leader. Morales assassins: Bolivia gang "fought in Balkans" - Magda Hassan - 06-02-2010 Ruben Mundaca Wrote:Señora Jan: Hablando de supuestos 'Jan' tiene cojones y no es una señora. Jan es un nombre macho muy comun en Polonia y Holanda. Este es un hecho. Morales assassins: Bolivia gang "fought in Balkans" - Ruben Mundaca - 06-02-2010 Magda Hassan Wrote:Ruben Mundaca Wrote:Señora Jan: No estoy obligado a saberlo. Estamos en un foro escribiendo en INGLES, por lo tanto no es un "supuesto". Por lo que sé (aún estoy aprendiendo) en Inglés, "Jan" es FEMENINO, diminutivo de "Janice" o "Jane". Morales assassins: Bolivia gang "fought in Balkans" - Magda Hassan - 06-02-2010 Su Ingles es bastante bueno. Pense que le gustaria saber ella era un el. Jan es un diminutivo de Janet, Janette, Janice, Janelle etc but never Jane. Morales assassins: Bolivia gang "fought in Balkans" - Ruben Mundaca - 06-02-2010 Magda Hassan Wrote:Su Ingles es bastante bueno. Pense que le gustaria saber ella era un el. Jan es un diminutivo de Janet, Janette, Janice, Janelle etc but never Jane. Gracias por la corrección, Magda. Es bueno saberlo. A veces las personas se ofenden por cosas tan pequeñas como esa. Tks. a lot. Morales assassins: Bolivia gang "fought in Balkans" - Magda Hassan - 06-02-2010 De nada |