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Declassified: The CIA "Oswald" and Mexico City - Scott Kaiser - 23-06-2015
Quote:Wouldn't it be more likely that a mole hunt might be a planned excuse if the plot failed and/or someone started talking?
I really should respond to that statement, but, then again, I'm getting tried of repeating myself over and over.
Declassified: The CIA "Oswald" and Mexico City - Jim DiEugenio - 23-06-2015
I have to agree with you Jim.
One of the things I have extracted here is that Anne Goodpasture was doing these things either while the alleged Oswald was there, or on the day he left.
I think she was enlisted by Phillips so that Phillips could say that he was not there most of the time, in case the whole imposter thing was discovered. Which , of course, it was not.
Declassified: The CIA "Oswald" and Mexico City - Jim DiEugenio - 23-06-2015
The way I see this happening is Phillips and Goodpasture in the field and Angleton behind the lines as the commander.
This is one of the things I objected to in the first edition of Hancock's book, Someone Would have Talked.
He called Phillips there a CIA general. From all the study I did of Phillips and his career, this was simply not true in 1963.
As Bill Colby called him, David Phillips was a first class operations officer. Which would mean he was more like a Lt. Colonel, a la Oliver North.
(BTW, Larry said Morales was a general too in that book. Morales I would not even figure as a captain in the CIA in 1963. Maybe, maybe, a Lieutenant.)
Angleton I would call a CIA general.
It was after the JFK assassination, and his work on it, that Phillips began to rise up the ranks rather quickly. As Philip Agee related in, I think, his first book, there was a big meeting at Langley in early 1964. As Lisa told me, he described a turnover in positions and leadership. And recall, it was Phillips who recommended Goodpasture for a medal for spotting Oswald in MC. Which is hilarious, since that is exactly what she DID NOT DO!
LOL, ROTF BARF BARF
Anyway, it was after that reorganization that Phillips now began to rise up the ranks to a full colonel, then field marshall rank, and then a general. From what I have been able to piece together, Phillips was in on the design of the CIA coup in Indonesia in 1965. Which the Agency holds as its masterpiece of subterfuge.
Then, Phillips was a major player in Chile in 1973. In fact, as many think, the man who actually supervised the American aspect of that coup, and may have actually run the assassination of Allende, worked under Phillips. This agent, Michael Townley, was then in on the assassination of Letelier.
After this, Phillips then became chief of the Western Hemisphere. He then retired. Although as Marchetti told me, "Jim, Dave was retired, but he really was not retired." In fact, he told me that when Phillips was forming the AFIO, he was really working for the CIA. He met with him at a spook restaurant in New York where Phillips tried to pitch him. His real function was to blunt the impact of the Church Committee and then protect the Agency and himself from being implicated in the JFK case by the HSCA. Well, Dave did a good job on both. But the main thing he did was to get rid of Sprague, who was hot on his trail in Mexico City.
See Sprague thought it was Oswald at Sylvia Odio's, and he could not understand why the Commission doubted her word. This is what convinced him that something was up in MC. So he interviewed the Tarasoffs, the translators, and they told him someone created a translation that they did not type. Sprague asked if they still had their typewriter, and they did. He brought the typewriter back to Washington to test it against the CIA documents that had been given him of the translations.
At that point he was fired. In an interview for Probe he told us: and I will wager that that typewriter is still sitting in a warehouse somewhere in Washington.
I disagree with him on that. IMO, when Sprague left, Blakey probably gave it to one of the spooks on the staff, like Harold Leap, and he gave it to Phillips as a souvenir.
Declassified: The CIA "Oswald" and Mexico City - Jim Hargrove - 23-06-2015
This all makes Phillips, Goodpasture and probably Angleton look as guilty as they can possibly be, but what about E. Howard Hunt?
Hunt gave the Rockefeller Commission an affidavit stating he wasn't in Mexico in 1963, or any of the years around it. Then he told some little magazine, Cigar Aficionado or something like that, that he was the temporary Chief of Station in Mexico City for August and September 1963. Mark Lane wrote that Phillips also said that Hunt was in Mexico for many years, including the time under consideration here.
If Hunt was at the MC station, and possibly even temporarily in charge there, doesn't Hunt have to be considered a prime suspect in the MC charade as well? (And how about including whoever may have put Hunt in charge, if we can believe the odd claim?)
Declassified: The CIA "Oswald" and Mexico City - Drew Phipps - 23-06-2015
I can imagine a Mexico City "mole hunt" scenario involving multiple Oswalds: you ensure that each person you're trying to check (maybe Goodpasture is a suspected mole) has an alternate description/picture of the "Oswald," then you wait to see which description turns up in your enemies' files.
Declassified: The CIA "Oswald" and Mexico City - Scott Kaiser - 23-06-2015
Quote:Then he told some little magazine, Cigar Aficionado or something like that, that he was the temporary Chief of Station in Mexico City for August and September 1963. Mark Lane wrote that Phillips also said that Hunt was in Mexico for many years, including the time under consideration here.
Finally, someone doing some digging here, now, see if Hunt and Poyle were there at the same time? Then, see if the two were also working with each other during Watergate, finally, find out if both Hunt and Poyle knew Ed Kaiser, and, what did Kaiser have that got the CIA into an uproar?
Declassified: The CIA "Oswald" and Mexico City - Scott Kaiser - 23-06-2015
Jim Hargrove Wrote:This all makes Phillips, Goodpasture and probably Angleton look as guilty as they can possibly be, but what about E. Howard Hunt?
Hunt gave the Rockefeller Commission an affidavit stating he wasn't in Mexico in 1963, or any of the years around it. Then he told some little magazine, Cigar Aficionado or something like that, that he was the temporary Chief of Station in Mexico City for August and September 1963. Mark Lane wrote that Phillips also said that Hunt was in Mexico for many years, including the time under consideration here.
If Hunt was at the MC station, and possibly even temporarily in charge there, doesn't Hunt have to be considered a prime suspect in the MC charade as well? (And how about including whoever may have put Hunt in charge, if we can believe the odd claim?)
Quote:if we can believe the odd claim?
Win Scott, Goodpasture, Angleton, Phillips, Poyle, Hunt, later Kaiser steals photos and is involved with most these men. Angleton writes a three page memo on Ed Kaiser, and deletes all three pages just after Kaiser asks for Federal protection.
Now, can you believe the odd claim?
Declassified: The CIA "Oswald" and Mexico City - Tracy Riddle - 23-06-2015
Jim DiEugenio Wrote:Then, Phillips was a major player in Chile in 1973. In fact, as many think, the man who actually supervised the American aspect of that coup, and may have actually run the assassination of Allende, worked under Phillips. This agent, Michael Townley, was then in on the assassination of Letelier.
And Townley was actually working for Pinochet's secret police (DINA), which allowed the CIA to distance itself from the Letelier assassination (and also shows the multinational nature of these elite criminal networks).
Declassified: The CIA "Oswald" and Mexico City - Scott Kaiser - 23-06-2015
Tracy Riddle Wrote:Jim DiEugenio Wrote:Then, Phillips was a major player in Chile in 1973. In fact, as many think, the man who actually supervised the American aspect of that coup, and may have actually run the assassination of Allende, worked under Phillips. This agent, Michael Townley, was then in on the assassination of Letelier.
And Townley was actually working for Pinochet's secret police (DINA), which allowed the CIA to distance itself from the Letelier assassination (and also shows the multinational nature of these elite criminal networks).
Gee, I wounder where Scott Kaiser is getting his information from? At the meeting, according to a document, the group CORU discussed kidnapping and executing a diplomat. A month later CORU members attempted to kidnap the Cuban ambassador in Mexico; one of his aides was shot and killed. Townley was involved in CORU, now he is off the witness protection program and lives in California, far enough away from Miami as possible.
Do I know anyone from CORU? Or, has my father worked with anyone from that group? Remember that leader of the Golden Hawks parachute club? Yeah, I have also taken several photos with one of the leaders of that groups who is Fidel Castro's public enemy number one. I meet with them every time I'm in Miami, in-fact, I'll be seeing them next week.
My advise is this, although, the top echelons knows what's going on, (they didn't do it), it's the company motherf*^%ers that do all the dirty work, carry out the assassinations don't forget that. And, it's those top echelons that publish propaganda, cover it up, destroy documents, or keep them from leaking into the publics domain.
Not to mention, which documents are available for release that are sanitized. Albert, I'm not being ignored, or no one would be researching Poyle, my father, and everything else I'm saying, everyone is just being cautious and I expect that, but just when folks think they've heard and seen it all, then they hear something new, they learn that what I say overtime is true.
As I've said before, if no one has heard about my father, how could anyone possibly know about anyone else I have mention?
Don't put all your eggs into one basket, and faithfully believe in all these reports you've read, many of you, if not, all of you know so much more then I do, but, what I know, is information you've never heard of, and it's that information I'm trying to get you to dig into, then you'll find it like I did, if I just tell you or post it, you won't believe me, but if you find it, then you'll believe me.
Declassified: The CIA "Oswald" and Mexico City - Scott Kaiser - 23-06-2015
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