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Did Greer stop the car - Tom Bowden - 20-06-2015
Some comments for Irish Central. Concise quotes from those in the motorcade.
http://www.irishcentral.com/news/did-irish-born-william-greer-cause-jfks-death-107915254-237787211.html
Did Greer stop the car - David Josephs - 21-06-2015
He said "I heard this noise. And I thought that is what it was. And then I heard it again. And I glanced over my shoulder. And I saw Governor Connally like he was starting to fall. Then I realized there was something wrong. I tramped on the accelerator, and at the same time Mr. Kellerman said to me, 'Get out of here fast.' And I cannot remember even the other shots or noises that was. I cannot quite remember any more. I did not see anything happen behind me any more, because I was occupied with getting away."
uh, yeah... not so much...
Did Greer stop the car - Martin White - 22-06-2015
And again, we see from this clip the impossibly fast head turn by Greer, a sure sign that frames have been removed.
But then, I'm preaching to the choir here with that.
Did Greer stop the car - Gordon Gray - 22-06-2015
It doesn't matter whether the car stopped or slowed to a near stop. The fact of the matter is Greer went against protocol. He should have begun speeding up after he finished the turn on to Elm. The motorcade was essentially over and standard speed should have been 43 mph. Instead he slowed down after the turn, before the first shot was heard. Something very fishy there IMO. As carefully planned as the assassination was. it is hard to believe that a matter of chance, i.e. Greer's poor performance, would be the reason for it's success. I doubt they left that stone unturned.
Did Greer stop the car - Michael Cross - 22-06-2015
Four bodies thrown forward violently (presumably from braking), yet JFK and Jackie do not respond in kind, superhuman head turn speeds . . . such visual fiction created without regarding physics.
Did Greer stop the car - David Josephs - 22-06-2015
Gordon Gray Wrote:It doesn't matter whether the car stopped or slowed to a near stop. The fact of the matter is Greer went against protocol. He should have begun speeding up after he finished the turn on to Elm. The motorcade was essentially over and standard speed should have been 43 mph. Instead he slowed down after the turn, before the first shot was heard. Something very fishy there IMO. As carefully planned as the assassination was. it is hard to believe that a matter of chance, i.e. Greer's poor performance, would be the reason for it's success. I doubt they left that stone unturned.
Mr. KELLERMAN. Yes. Good. There was enough for me to verify that the man was
hit. So, in the same motion I come right back and grabbed the speaker and said
to the driver, "Let's get out of here; we are hit," and grabbed the mike and I
said, "Lawson, this is Kellerman,"--this is Lawson, who is in the front car. "We
are hit; get us to the hospital immediately." Now, in the seconds that I talked
just now, a flurry of shells come into the car. I then looked back and this time
Mr. Hill, who was riding on the left front bumper of our followup car, was on
the back trunk of that car; the President was sideways down into the back seat
If you look at the gif I posted... Kellerman does nothing of the sort... He is staring into the backseat after the inital shots
He does not get on the radio during the head shot or any other flurry of shots and Hill was no where near on the limo yet... in the FILM.
But by Z375, when the FBI and SS says the final shots were fired, all this was occurring....
In the end, Greer's first responsibility was to get him out of danger, not to decide if what he heard was REALLY a gunshot.
In reality, while at this spot Greer's slowing assisted the shooters, most anywhere along the route the car was moving very slowly and he would make an easy target...
With hundreds of people lining the streets a shooting there would cause them to scatter and make the escape that much easier... except Oswald did not work in a building back there...
It remains my opinion that Zapruder filmed at 48fps, that there was no need to run off 19 feet of film to develop and that developed it held hundreds more frames during those 13 seconds than the 486 we are left with after alteration.
Either that or as Healy suggests, the entire thing is a composite fraud with masks... The Evidence IS the Conspiracy
DJ
(PS - I seem to remember reading that Greer was chosen due to his tendency to hit the brakes during an emergency... but it only sticks in my mind that way...)