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Michael Collins Piper - Albert Doyle - 05-07-2015
The controversial Kennedy Assassination author died in Idaho on June 1st. Whether Piper was correct or not about Israel being the prime sponsor of the assassination his book 'Final Judgment' had some very interesting research that delved into politically incorrect avenues of the conspiracy that were worth reviewing in my opinion. I personally think Piper's tendency as critic of Israel from the American Free Press led him to reach too far and try to blame Israel for initiating the assassination. This was probably incorrect and most likely Israel was brought in by the American-based sponsors as a sympathetic ally and beneficiary. None the less 'Final Judgment' is a good source for the CIA/mob Mediterranean underground that existed at the time of Kennedy's assassination. Piper was 54.
Michael Collins Piper - Magda Hassan - 05-07-2015
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Michael Collins Piper - Lauren Johnson - 05-07-2015
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Michael Collins Piper - Tracy Riddle - 06-07-2015
While not involved in the JFK assassination as far as I can tell, the Israeli government has been neck-deep in many covert operations since the 1940s.
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2001/sep/10/20010910-025319-6906r/
Of the Mossad, the Israeli intelligence service, the SAMS (Army School of Advanced Military Studies) officers say: "Wildcard. Ruthless and cunning. Has capability to target U.S. forces and make it look like a Palestinian/Arab act."
Michael Collins Piper - O. Austrud - 17-09-2015
Michael Collins Piper - O. Austrud - 18-09-2015
Why is this thread so silent? Please send me a private message... I think much of what Michael Collins Piper wrote, is obvious...
Michael Collins Piper - Magda Hassan - 19-09-2015
It's all been discussed before.
Michael Collins Piper - Peter Lemkin - 19-09-2015
Israel had NOTHING to do with the JFK Assassination. I don't know if Piper had his neurons making bad connections or was just anti-Jewish or anti-Israel in a quite illogical form or was spinning knowing disinformation to misdirect attention from the real culprits. As has been pointed out Israel has been involved in all too many covert, black, dirty and false-flag operations and wars, et al. since the end of WW2, but Dallas was NOT one of them. I see not one scintilla of evidence in that direction. It is true that even books with a bad/wrong premise and conclusion can have useful information within - but it takes someone with a strong background in the subject to separate the good from the bad.
Michael Collins Piper - Albert Doyle - 19-09-2015
Peter, that's not at all true. If you bothered to read Piper instead of rejecting him offhand you would see that although he may have made an incorrect 'mastermind' accusation about Israel's sponsorship he proved beyond a doubt that Israel had serious connections through CIA liaison to Israel James Jesus Angleton, Meyer Lansky, Tibor Rosenbaum, and the Mediterranean underground network.
Peter, have you even read 'Final Judgment'? It's absolutely false to say there is not one scintilla of evidence. Piper provided 500 pages of DiEugenio-quality reference and evidence. When I asked Jim about it he said the book stank and he threw it in the trash. That's not a very intellectually honest answer seeing how, if you read Piper's deftly researched case, he provides a dense body of fully referenced credible evidence.
The problem is Israel is guarded by a strictly protected bias where anyone who criticizes it is successfully labeled as a Nazi-like crude anti-semite. Piper may have had a bug up his rear for Israel and harbored some anti-Israel biases, but I have never seen anyone ever debunk his actual research.
If you ignore the showdown JFK had with Ben Gurion over nukes and how it led to Ben Gurion's nervous breakdown and subsequent departure from office you are just ignoring plain history. Kennedy's letters to Ben Gurion over the issue are still classified over 50 years later.
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Michael Collins Piper - O. Austrud - 19-09-2015
I couldn't agree more, Albert. You are one of the brave few. Thanks...