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The "true" part of True Detective (spoilers inside) - Doug Fisher - 04-08-2015
Those who study satanic ritual abuse quickly noticed that HBO's True Detective Season 1 was loosely based on a true story. You can read about the true story of Ponchatoula, LA here:
http://www.vice.com/video/the-real-true-detective-010
The detectives who worked on the case felt that they were never able to bust the larger satanic ring, only arresting the guys at the bottom. The HBO show also has a larger, gov't protected satanic ring that abuses kids in pre-schools. Which, as we learned in the 80s and 90s, is dead on.
Season 2 also seems to follow real events. The most obvious parallel is the creepy California hippie commune visited by powerful people, based on The Esalen Institute. Some believe the corrupt California city of Vinci is based on Vernon, CA. The tales of elite members of government visiting sex parties, blackmailing each other, and trafficking girls are also not far from the truth. Sort of makes you wonder if there's more going on in Vernon than a few corrupt political families.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vernon,_California
Vernon has a history of political problems, and was fighting disincorporation after city-government corruption was discovered.[7] California Assembly Speaker John A. Pérez has proposed legislation, AB46, to disincorporate cities with fewer than 150 residents.[8] Vernon is the only city that would be affected by the bill.[9]
According to an editorial in the April 26, 2011, edition of the Long Beach Press-Telegram, support to maintain Vernon's city status came from two powerful groups that were rarely allied: the business community (including the California, Los Angeles, and Vernon Chambers of Commerce) and the labor community (including the Los Angeles Federation of Labor and the Teamsters) joined together in the battle against Sacramento. Both groups acknowledged that Vernon needed a comprehensive political house cleaning, but both maintained its right to cityhood. The bill had passed in the Assembly on a bipartisan vote of 587.[10]
In the last few weeks of the legislative session of summer 2011, a team of attorneys and lobbyists from Vernon were desperately trying to kill the bill that would disincorporate the scandal-tainted city when state Senator Kevin de Leon (D-Los Angeles) came to them with a creative and unconventional offer.[11] De Leon, who had earlier supported disbanding Vernon, said he would help to defeat the legislation if Vernon would set aside $60 million in order to fund community projects in the small, working-class cities that surround Vernon and to also agree to a proposed list of government reforms.[11]
Vernon agreed to the offer, and de Leon then proceeded to support the groups fighting disincorporation. City officials in nearby Huntington Park, which stood to receive some of Vernon's grant money, also reversed their support to the City of Vernon.[11] On August 29, the state Senate rejected the bill to disband Vernon
According to an editorial in the April 26, 2011, edition of the Long Beach Press-Telegram, support to maintain Vernon's city status came from two powerful groups that were rarely allied: the business community (including the California, Los Angeles, and Vernon Chambers of Commerce) and the labor community (including the Los Angeles Federation of Labor and the Teamsters) joined together in the battle against Sacramento. Both groups acknowledged that Vernon needed a comprehensive political house cleaning, but both maintained its right to cityhood. The bill had passed in the Assembly on a bipartisan vote of 587.[10]
In the last few weeks of the legislative session of summer 2011, a team of attorneys and lobbyists from Vernon were desperately trying to kill the bill that would disincorporate the scandal-tainted city when state Senator Kevin de Leon (D-Los Angeles) came to them with a creative and unconventional offer.[11] De Leon, who had earlier supported disbanding Vernon, said he would help to defeat the legislation if Vernon would set aside $60 million in order to fund community projects in the small, working-class cities that surround Vernon and to also agree to a proposed list of government reforms.[11]
Vernon agreed to the offer, and de Leon then proceeded to support the groups fighting disincorporation. City officials in nearby Huntington Park, which stood to receive some of Vernon's grant money, also reversed their support to the City of Vernon.[11] On August 29, the state Senate rejected the bill to disband Vernon
The city owns nearly all residential housing in town and there have been concerns that its officials are de facto landlords of the voters.
Sounds like they had a nice little monopoly on the rail corridors, controlled by the same family since the 1880s.
Interesting. No mention of this in the wikipedia article covering Vernon corruption...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leonis_C._Malburg
Leonis's son, John Malburg, was sent to prison for child molestation of boys in 2009.[3] The offenses were discovered during the same family voter fraud investigation
True Detective right again?http://articles.latimes.com/2009/apr/11/local/me-vernon11
John Malburg, the 40-year-old scion of the family that founded the tiny, cloistered industrial city of Vernon, was sentenced Friday to eight years in prison after pleading guilty to sexually molesting one boy and videotaping another one for commercial purposes.
The case against Malburg, who was the dean of students at now-closed Daniel Murphy Catholic High School in the Fairfax district of Los Angeles, arose out of a public corruption investigation that involved him; his mother, Dominica, 83; and his father, Vernon Mayor Leonis Malburg, 80.
The case against Malburg, who was the dean of students at now-closed Daniel Murphy Catholic High School in the Fairfax district of Los Angeles, arose out of a public corruption investigation that involved him; his mother, Dominica, 83; and his father, Vernon Mayor Leonis Malburg, 80.
Where exactly does such commerce take place? Was the Catholic High School involved?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daniel_Murphy_High_School#Controversy_and_closure
Take a look at the notable alumni. It includes the former LAPD Chief and the DEA Assistant Admin of Intelligence.
Hmm. Searching through the filming locations for more clues, I notice that the Sowden House was used in season two. Apparently Dr. George Hodel, a murder suspect in the Black Dahlia case, had lived there in the 40s. The house, Dr. Hodel, and the Esalen Institute are all mentioned in Dave McGowan's Laurel Canyon. I can't help but feel like the show is hinting at something larger than just voter fraud and corruption in Vernon...
Does anyone have more information on the people and places mentioned here? That would be a great help.
The "true" part of True Detective (spoilers inside) - R.K. Locke - 04-08-2015
I have never watched this show but I am now intrigued. How many episodes are there in the first two seasons?
The "true" part of True Detective (spoilers inside) - Doug Fisher - 05-08-2015
R.K. Locke Wrote:I have never watched this show but I am now intrigued. How many episodes are there in the first two seasons?
8 episodes in each. It's a miniseries. The finale of season 2 is this Sunday.
I have to say, season 2 did not live up to my expectations. As far as entertainment and acting goes, it was not nearly as good as the first...which was one of my favorite series of all time. I'm more interested in this town of Vernon than I am in the show itself.
The "true" part of True Detective (spoilers inside) - Lauren Johnson - 05-08-2015
Doug Fisher Wrote:R.K. Locke Wrote:I have never watched this show but I am now intrigued. How many episodes are there in the first two seasons?
8 episodes in each. It's a miniseries. The finale of season 2 is this Sunday.
I have to say, season 2 did not live up to my expectations. As far as entertainment and acting goes, it was not nearly as good as the first...which was one of my favorite series of all time. I'm more interested in this town of Vernon than I am in the show itself.
Any way to see the series without subscribing to HBO?
The "true" part of True Detective (spoilers inside) - Doug Fisher - 13-10-2015
Lauren Johnson Wrote:Doug Fisher Wrote:R.K. Locke Wrote:I have never watched this show but I am now intrigued. How many episodes are there in the first two seasons?
8 episodes in each. It's a miniseries. The finale of season 2 is this Sunday.
I have to say, season 2 did not live up to my expectations. As far as entertainment and acting goes, it was not nearly as good as the first...which was one of my favorite series of all time. I'm more interested in this town of Vernon than I am in the show itself.
Any way to see the series without subscribing to HBO?
Sorry I didn't see this until now.
I don't think so. You'd have to pirate it as far as I know. HBO doesn't like to host their stuff on streaming services other than their own.
The "true" part of True Detective (spoilers inside) - David Guyatt - 13-10-2015
Doug Fisher Wrote:Lauren Johnson Wrote:Doug Fisher Wrote:R.K. Locke Wrote:I have never watched this show but I am now intrigued. How many episodes are there in the first two seasons?
8 episodes in each. It's a miniseries. The finale of season 2 is this Sunday.
I have to say, season 2 did not live up to my expectations. As far as entertainment and acting goes, it was not nearly as good as the first...which was one of my favorite series of all time. I'm more interested in this town of Vernon than I am in the show itself.
Any way to see the series without subscribing to HBO?
Sorry I didn't see this until now.
I don't think so. You'd have to pirate it as far as I know. HBO doesn't like to host their stuff on streaming services other than their own.
Download the free app Popcorn-Time, series 1 is on there. Or for both, download Kodi (TVMC) suitable for your operating system. Enjoy.