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Another Anomaly or simply a labelling error? - Drew Phipps - 28-09-2015 Here is a picture from the 6th Floor Museum online site: Well, I can't get the picture to show up in this post but here is the link: http://emuseum.jfk.org/view/objects/asitem/classification@Photographs/118/title-asc?t:state:flow=601effc5-a5c4-4e07-ba10-3c3042919ef6 It shows a Dallas police officer (J.M. Valentine) standing next to window with sunlight streaming in. The caption for the picture is: "Image of a Dallas Police officer pointing to the location of the rifle" And the date of the photo is 11/22/63. Now, my recollection might be a bit foggy, but wasn't the Carcano 91/38 rifle recovered not near a window but near the elevator in the northwest corner of the building? Also, in the winter in Texas, the sun is slanted far to the south, even during the day, which is why all the TSBD employees on the steps (facing south) are shading their eyes. Even if there was a window on the north side of the building near the elevator, there wouldn't be sunlight strongly shining through it in November. So, since he's NOT showing us where the gun was (officially) found, is this guy pointing out the "sniper's nest"? The box he's pointing over doesn't look tall enough to be the stacked boxes that are in the other pictures of the snipers nest like CE 715 (and which can still be seen (as a reproduction) in the 6th Floor Museum to this date). Also, if that's a south facing window, the sunlight in the afternoon of the 22nd would be slanting east (away from the officer). If the officer is standing at a west side window, the sunlight would be in the correct place for afternoon Nov. 22, but then he's pointing out yet a third location for the gun. And wasn't DPD JM Valentine assigned that day to the mysterious "car 207" that, it was reported, drove by and honked at Oswald's boarding house? Is this another photographic anomaly, or is the picture simply mislabeled? Another Anomaly or simply a labelling error? - Peter Lemkin - 28-09-2015 I've never seen that photo before and it is odd. The other shots of the supposed rifle find [which rifle I'm saying to myself...as a Mauser was first found, and then a M-C] never seemed to be near windows nor a lot of light from them. A lot of the police in the TSBD seem to have had some knowledge and/or participation in what was really going on in town that day [i.e. not the official version]. Another Anomaly or simply a labelling error? - Tom Scully - 28-09-2015 Drew, http://jfk.ci.dallas.tx.us/16/1662-001.gif The photo you posted seems consistent with this, just from a different angle, IMO. Quote:[Dallas Police Lieutenant J.C. "Carl" Day pointing to the rifle location on the sixth floor of the Texas School Book Depository] Observe the dark mark on the wall, to the right of JM Valentine, and the arrow on the bottom of the sign on the wall, above him. Consider in the CE 719 image posted below, the light switch on the vertical beam mounted just below the number "15", it seems the same switch box and beam visible on the right edge of the Lt. Day photo, posted above.: .....and then, consider this.: (The arrow on the sign in the photo and the dark mark on the wall, and Day's testimony / photo exhibit.) Mr. BELIN. I am going to hand you what has been marked as Commission Exhibit 719 and ask you to state if you know what that is. Mr. DAY. It is a picture of the portion of the northwest floor where the rifle was found. This is a distance shot showing the stack of boxes. (The boxes under the sign were moved and JM Valentine is occupying the space where the boxes visible in CE 719 had been positioned when that photograph, CE 719 was taken.) The "1" in the number "15" on the vertical beam may actually be a darkened area of the conduit connecting to the switch box, RE: Lt. Day photo, posted above. Another Anomaly or simply a labelling error? - Chris Davidson - 28-09-2015 http://www31.zippyshare.com/v/RRL3sHET/file.html Click on "Download Now" chris Another Anomaly or simply a labelling error? - Tom Scully - 28-09-2015 The video posted by Chris Davidson presents a reenactment by an FBI agent smoothly "hiding" the rifle in a split second and almost in the same motion as he departs down the stairway steps, but:...... Quote:This is from Howard Ruffman's analysis of Oswald's movements in "Presumed Another Anomaly or simply a labelling error? - Chris Davidson - 29-09-2015 Tom, Thank you for the refresher. I hope by now most of us are aware of the WC/FBI/SS shenanigans. Hopefully, the video allows Drew to orientate his photo to the video. chris Another Anomaly or simply a labelling error? - Drew Phipps - 29-09-2015 I'm sorta paranoid about downloading stuff from popups at websites, so I'm gonna pass on the movie. Thank you all for the content. I see that the photograph is consistent with the others, and the Texas sunlight thru a western exposure in the afternoon, IF you move the giant stack of boxes clearly visible in CE 719. Gotta wonder though, why on earth are the Dallas PD moving the freaking boxes around (with their hands?) at the crime scene of the century, after they have located the rifle? Just to provide a photo op for the press? And if they're moving those boxes, why stop there, why not move the boxes around at the sniper's nest as well? (I'm not even going to detail the eyewitness reports of people moving boxes around on the 6th floor within 5 minutes of the shooting...) Second note, didn't Posner in Case Closed put the rifle nearer the north wall than the west wall? Maybe I'm misremembering. Hey Tom, is that statement signed by Valentine? It doesn't appear so. Another Anomaly or simply a labelling error? - Tom Scully - 29-09-2015 Drew Phipps Wrote:I'm sorta paranoid about downloading stuff from popups at websites, so I'm gonna pass on the movie. Quote:National Lampoon 1964 High School Yearbook ParodyNo Drew, there is nothing to indicate JM Valentine signed his statement dated 2 December. The FBI "reenactment" of the rifle drop and escape from the sixth floor is five seconds of b&w film. I've condensed that short film to three screen captures.: Another Anomaly or simply a labelling error? - Drew Phipps - 29-09-2015 Wasn't there a giant stack of books right there (CE 719) where the FBI guy is leaning over a short stack? Oswald at 5'9" could not have stuck the gun there, by leaning over, if the stack of books were as pictured before the Valentine photo op. Another Anomaly or simply a labelling error? - Albert Doyle - 29-09-2015 Drew Phipps Wrote:Wasn't there a giant stack of books right there (CE 719) where the FBI guy is leaning over a short stack? Oswald at 5'9" could not have stuck the gun there, by leaning over, if the stack of books were as pictured before the Valentine photo op. It does seem like they opened it up a little. It also seems like Oswald would have gone in front of the window with a rifle if he made that move. |