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John Newman, Shenon and the declassified Robarge article on DCI John McCone - Anthony Thorne - 08-10-2015 This conversation appeared on John Newman's Facebook page today and I thought the contents were relevant and interesting enough to share - thanks in advance to the participants (the contents are all public on John Newman's wall so hopefully no-one is irked by the reprinting). The participants are Newman, Joseph Backes and Dan Hardway. The discussion references the declassified document DCI JOHN MCCONE AND THE ASSASSINATION OF PRESIDENT JOHN F. KENNEDY, linked here. [URL="http://nsarchive.gwu.edu/NSAEBB/NSAEBB493/docs/intell_ebb_026.PDF"]John McCone document [/URL] ......... John Newman: Shenon's latest piece in Politico ("Yes the CIA Director was Part of the JFK Assassination Coverup") is a continuation of the newest stagebegun in 2013of the propaganda campaign to convince Americans that Robert Kennedy got his brother John killed and then worked to cover it up. The genesis of this new stage was a call from a Warren Commission lawyer to Shenon, who then fed Shenon and used him as the mouthpiece for this outrageous scheme. The Castro-did-it propaganda was part of the true coverup of the plot to kill JFK, and it was in play even before the shots were fired in Dallas. But I knew when I read Shenon's 2015 paper edition of his book, A Cruel and Shocking Act, that we would be facing a newer, carefully orchestrated campaign to stick it to the Kennedys right at the time when the battle lines are being drawn to force the releaseas required by the JFK Records Actof the remaining JFK records by October 2017. Now, Shenon takes a recently released internal CIA analysis (which also dates to 2013) about DCI McCone blocking the CIA's anti-Castro plots from the Warren Commission, and uses it to bolster his (Shenon's) baleful version of history. I will comment on that (David Robarge's) analysis after thoroughly reading it. Shenon's Politico piece ends by restating a myth he hopes to make stick: that President Johnson appointed former DCI Allen Dulles to the Warren Commission "at the recommendation of then Attorney General Robert Kennedy." I will hold back here on commenting about this fabrication because David Talbot's new book, The Devil's Chessboard, (to be released next week) so thoroughly (pp. 572-574) demolishes it. --JN: Shenon's article says Robarge's formerly classified article was quietly released last fall and is available on the CIA's public website. I can't find it. Can anyone else? Dan Hardway: If you find it please share. Haven't found it yet. John Newman: Robarge's article was originally published in the classified edition of 9/13 Studies in Intelligence. It is not in the unclassified version which you can see. But Shenon says it was declassified last fall. Robarge has an article on the Congo in that unclassified edition, but nothing on the Warren Commission. Joseph Backes: Here's the Robarge article: http://nsarchive.gwu.edu/NSAEBB/NSAEBB493/docs/intell_ebb_026.PDF John Newman: Joe found it (good job)--see his link above. So, Shenon is incorrect--it's on the NSA (‪nsarchive.gwu.edu) website not ‪cia.gov Joseph Backes: It's based on a book about McCone that Robarge wrote in 2005 that the CIA has classified. So, is there any chance someone somewhere, like Wikileaks, or Anonymous people has a digital copy of that book? Or the NSA folks? So, on the bottom of page 3, the first paragraph, the citation part, not the main body of text, it says the CIA opened counterintelligence and security files on Oswald in early November, which could be within hours or days of Oswald's defection on October 31, 1959. Is this information that we knew, or is this new information? John Newman: We know that CI was tracking right away and that the security office had started a "soft file" which was just typed entries on plain white paper with an "S" number. I think it this is an important confirmation of the fact the toe Soviet Russia Division was shut out at this early point. Joseph Backes: Warren Commission Document #1 is a FIVE volume FBI report. On page 6 of the article Roberge says it's four. John Newman: I have now read the David Robarge piece. It's actually one declassified chapter from a book he wrote on DCI John McCone's history as the Director of Central Intelligence. The chapter is "DCI McCone and the Assassination of President John F. Kennedy." It is an important analysis that Shenon has clearly cherry picked through (which is what Shenon did with the HSCA work on the case), taking and spinning sentences that paint McCone as the leader of an effort to steer the Warren Commission away from the critical facts supporting Shenon's theme that RFK got his brother killed. There is no support for this kind of agitprop in the Robarge chapter, although one can wonder about the timing of its declassification and whether McCone's actions at the time (which he later regretted) would help the current campaign to breathe life into the Castro-did-it myth. Researchers will find a lot of important details--names of CIA officers and their roles in the rush of events after the assassination. When you have read this chapter, it is clear that Robarge is not arguing or even implying that Castro killed Kennedy and that RFK was responsible. John Newman, Shenon and the declassified Robarge article on DCI John McCone - Jim DiEugenio - 08-10-2015 Anthony, Thanks for posting this. Its very important material from three good researchers exposing the fraud that Philip Shenon was and is. He probably deliberately screwed up where the Robarge article was, in order to misdirect any prospective reply to his misquoting it. People should write Politico and point out what Shenon is up to. See, this is the really important battle that is going on, which Janney's nonsense is a diversion from. 2017 is shaping up right now. And Shenon is still using the Castro did it, blame the Kennedys, strategy. John Newman, Shenon and the declassified Robarge article on DCI John McCone - Anthony Thorne - 08-10-2015 I'm wondering now what else they'll dump on us in the next 12 months to hinder the declassification. I'm going to mention some of this in my Amazon review of DEVIL'S CHESSBOARD, which I'm reading next week. David Talbot has also responded: Quote:David Talbot responds to Phil Shenon: John Newman, Shenon and the declassified Robarge article on DCI John McCone - Anthony Thorne - 08-10-2015 Quote:The genesis of this new stage was a call from a Warren Commission lawyer to Shenon, who then fed Shenon and used him as the mouthpiece for this outrageous scheme. Which Warren Commission lawyer is Newman referring to here? John Newman, Shenon and the declassified Robarge article on DCI John McCone - Jim DiEugenio - 08-10-2015 According to Pat Speer, its Specter. In other words, Arlen is now haunting us from the grave. John Newman, Shenon and the declassified Robarge article on DCI John McCone - Anthony Thorne - 08-10-2015 It does sound likely that it was him. The inaugural exhibition of the Arlen Specter Centre for Public Service at Philadelphia University (jokes about that title really write themselves) notes two speakers appearing circa the anniversary last year - Shenon with his volume, and former Warren Commission assistant counsel Howard P. Willens with HISTORY WILL PROVE US RIGHT. http://www.philau.edu/spectercenter/singlebullet.html John Newman, Shenon and the declassified Robarge article on DCI John McCone - Tom Scully - 08-10-2015 Multiple coincidences are not uncommon, even emanating from the tiniest and most unlikely populations, or........ only food for thought. Our individual credibility seems to amount to finding the devil in the details, or not..... I guess. From Bakersfield (Lisa Mccubbin, sponsored by Rogers and Anthony Brandon, to The Vineyard, home of the Brandon brothers father, Lawrence Brandon, to The Martha's Vineyard Gazette, owned by James Reston, and his son James, after him, to Philip Shenon, Reston's NY Times intern in 1982, recommended for that opportunity by Steve Rattner.) to the Vineyard, to Op Mockingbird, and what has happened in between? Lisa McCubbin - Motion Picture Production, Motion Picture ... aeionline.com/lisam.html When this spunky mother of two heard that KERN-AM talk radio in Bakersfield, California was looking for a new radio talk show host, she instinctively knew she .... 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Quote:'Tom Scully', on 02 May 2012 - 05:16 AM, said:[URL="https://books.google.com/books?id=HyAStpnw2-IC&pg=PA302&lpg=PA302&dq=steve+rattner+not+folksy+enough&source=bl&ots=3RS9YGQeTk&sig=NJUVN6Lwndf5I5GHaGVDTp_2g0s&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0CB8Q6AEwAGoVChMIlrrb8qizyAIVQoI-Ch1rjQGI"] The Last Tycoons: The Secret History of Lazard Freres & Co.[/URL] https://books.google.com/books?isbn=0385521774 William D. Cohan - 2007 - ‎Business & Economics He got dinged for "not being folksy enough" for the Vineyard, and so lined up a ... Steve was a natural at the Times, reveling, at all of twenty-three, in his stature as -.1 ... Some of their former Times colleagues believe Rattner, for a time, modeled ... Hello sweetheart, get me mergers and acquisitions: the rise ... www.thefreelibrary.com › ... › Washington Monthly › May 1, 1986 In high school Steve was interested in photography, and it was to take pictures .... Philip Shenon, a Brown alum whom Rattner helped get the Reston clerkship, ... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Historical_United_States_Census_totals_for_Dukes_County,_Massachusetts 1960 US Census: [TABLE="class: wikitable"] [TR] [TD]Dukes County[/TD] [TD="align: right"]5,829[/TD] [TD="align: center"]County[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]Tisbury[/TD] [TD="align: right"]2,169[/TD] [TD="align: center"]Town[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]Edgartown[/TD] [TD="align: right"]1,474[/TD] [/TR] [/TABLE] 1970 US Census [TABLE="class: wikitable"] [TR] [TD]Dukes County[/TD] [TD="align: right"]6,117[/TD] [TD="align: center"]County[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]Tisbury[/TD] [TD="align: right"]2,257[/TD] [TD="align: center"]Town[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]Edgartown[/TD] [TD="align: right"]1,481[/TD] [TD="align: center"]Town[/TD] [/TR] [/TABLE] 2010 US Census [TABLE="class: wikitable"] [TR] [TD]Dukes County[/TD] [TD="align: right"]16,535[/TD] [TD="align: right"][/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]Oak Bluffs[/TD] [TD="align: right"]4,527[/TD] [TD="align: right"][/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]Edgartown[/TD] [TD="align: right"]4,067[/TD] [TD="align: right"][/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]Tisbury[/TD] [TD="align: right"]3,949[/TD] [TD="align: center"][/TD] [/TR] [/TABLE] I overcame my reluctance to author this post because of my perspective. My first three visits to the Vineyard were in between the Kopechne tragedy in 1969, and....: Cronkite Heirs Sell Green Hollow Home | The Vineyard ... vineyardgazette.com/news/2011/.../cronkite-heirs-sell-green-hollow-hom... Feb 3, 2011 - ... $11.3 million to longtime summer residents of Katama David and Karen Brush. ... colonial home with the gambrel roof when Dick Cavett set up cameras on the ... for what was the first talk show shot on the Vineyard, in 1974. Quote:https://www.bostonglobe.com/lifestyle/2012/06/20/phyllis-meras-passing-away-old-martha-vineyard/1sUtes86AkssKAfkXia6QJ/story.html Quote:http://archives.library.illinois.edu/ead/ua/2620120/2620120f.html Shenon's mentor, the father: James Reston - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Reston For his son, also a journalist and author,, see James Reston Jr.. ... In 1942, he took leave of absence to establish a U.S. Office of War Information in London. 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Vineyard Gazette sold for $2 millon - Cape Cod Times www.capecodtimes.com/article/20101127/NEWS/11270318 Nov 27, 2010 - The Restons co-owned the Gazette properties along with Richard Reston's brothers, author James Reston Jr. and lawyer Thomas Reston. [URL="http://vineyardgazette.com/news/2010/11/25/vineyard-gazette-sold-island-philanthropists"] Vineyard Gazette is Sold to Island Philanthropists | The ...[/URL]vineyardgazette.com/.../2010/.../vineyard-gazette-sold-island-philanthrop... Jerome and Nancy Kohlberg are the Gazette's new owners. ... Thursday, November 25, 2010 - 5:23pm ... Scotty Reston, a seasonal Island resident and New York Times columnist who twice won the Pulitzer Prize, and his wife, Sally Fulton ... Jerome Kohlberg Jr., Businessman Who Challenged Wall ... vineyardgazette.com/.../jerome-kohlberg-jr-businessman-who-challenge... Aug 1, 2015 - "My goal is to give back to the Vineyard and to the Gazette," he said at the time. Jerome Kohlberg bought the Gazette in 2010. .... N.Y. They bought the Gazette in November 2010 from the Reston family with great excitement ... Early August, 1999 : Quote: JFK Jr-"SKY FLASH" REPORTER UNAPPROACHABLE John Newman, Shenon and the declassified Robarge article on DCI John McCone - Jim DiEugenio - 09-10-2015 BTW, I should add how Pat figured that out about Specter. If you look at the acknowledgements in the book, you will see the name of one of Specter's staff members from the senate in there. Pat was not familiar with the name, so he searched it and figured out that is who he was and put two and two together. I think its revealing that Shenon does not come out and admit Specter was the guy who got him into this cover up. According to Shenon, Specter called him because he liked a book he did previously on 9/11 and many people think that is also a cover up book. |