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Trump dossier - Cliff Varnell - 09-08-2016
Drew Phipps Wrote:Trump's "club" seems to be the more exclusive one.
Like this guy.
![[Image: trump_militia_shirt-620x412_zpsq9vvx2dg.jpg]](http://s1116.photobucket.com/user/cliffvarnell55/media/trump_militia_shirt-620x412_zpsq9vvx2dg.jpg.html)
Wannabe Blackshirt, soon-to-be sore loser.
Trump dossier - Drew Phipps - 09-08-2016
Did Donald Trump just suggest shooting Hilary?
http://www.aol.com/article/2016/08/09/did-donald-trump-just-suggest-shooting-hillary-clinton-over-the/21448197/
Emily Cahn
Aug 9th 2016 3:45PM
Quote: Donald Trump seemingly joked about shooting Hillary Clinton during a speech Tuesday in North Carolina. "If she gets to pick her judges nothing you can do folks," Trump said, referring to Clinton getting to nominate Supreme Court justices if she were elected president. "Although, the Second Amendment, people, maybe there is."
In a statement, Trump's campaign blamed the "dishonest media" for overblowing his remarks. "It's called the power of unification," Jason Miller, senior communications adviser for Trump's campaign, wrote in an emailed statement. "Second Amendment people have amazing spirit and are tremendously unified, which gives them great political power. And this year, they will be voting in record numbers, and it won't be for Hillary Clinton, it will be for Donald Trump."
However Clinton Campaign Manager Robby Mook said in a statement that Trump's comment was "dangerous." "This is simple what Trump is saying is dangerous," Mook said in an emailed statement. "A person seeking to be the President of the United States should not suggest violence in any way." Democratic elected officials also called Trump's comments unacceptable, including Sen. Chris Murphy, who has become one of the loudest gun control advocates in the Senate after his home state of Connecticut was rocked by the Sandy Hook shooting.
American Bridge, a pro-Clinton opposition research outfit, was also quick to charge that Trump was referring to shooting Clinton. Clinton staffers on Twitter expressed shock at Trump's comments. "Did Donald Trump... just call for someone to shoot Hillary Clinton?" asked Rob Flaherty, a member of Clinton's rapid response communications team. Ian Sams, another member of Clinton's communications team, called Trump's comments "unacceptable" and "dangerous." Han Nguyen, a digital director on the Clinton campaign, called Trump's comments "disturbing."
Trump's campaign did not immediately respond to request for comment on what the Republican nominee meant in his statement.
Trump dossier - Cliff Varnell - 10-08-2016
Trump said:
"If she gets to pick her judges, nothing you can do, folks."
He paused. Someone in the crowd shouts "2nd Amendment!"
Trump continues:
"Although the Second Amendment people, maybe there is, I don't know."
Forget the dog whistles -- kill Clinton is the clear message.
Trump dossier - Anthony Thorne - 10-08-2016
Cliff Varnell Wrote:Forget the dog whistles -- kill Clinton is the clear message.
If it happens I guess Trump will shrug for the camera and go, "We came, we saw... she died!"
Trump dossier - Peter Lemkin - 10-08-2016
His hard core supporters will vote for him no matter what.....but he has increasingly cut his own political throat and IMO will get few votes from those 'on the fence'. This is an election year to end all election years! You'd think people would start to get a clue about the need for more parties and end to the electoral college...but no, not in the USA! The letter by the 50 former military and intelligence big boys against Trump of yesterday was quite a hit as well.....not a day goes by when Trump doesn't get hit or stick his foot in his mouth. Incredible - especially when the other main choice is so horrible......
....I don't know what Trump was thinking when he said what he said....but he should have known that such a statement worded that way was subject to the call for an assassination interpretation...but he speaks without thinking, or his thinking is like that of a petulant child, or both.
Trump dossier - Magda Hassan - 10-08-2016
I watched a Foreign Correspondent segment last night abut the GOP convention in Cleveland. Certainly seems there is a significant group in the GOP who do not welcome Trump and see him as some sort of interloper in to their party even a cult like leader. They were following around a group of Republicans who were seeking to revoke Trump's nomination. Seems the Republicans are equally as corrupt as the Democrats. Apart from the shifting sands and back room deals and treachery there was a remarkable scene of an open vote on the floor. It was clear that the 'Ayes' had it overwhelmingly but the Chairman said otherwise. Stunningly blatant and the floor erupted but it mattered not and the Chairman walked off the stage and show rolled on like nothing had happened. I actually felt sorry for the individuals who were bring documented for the film. So much faith in the process. They actually think they matter there.
Trump dossier - Paul Rigby - 10-08-2016
Cliff Varnell Wrote:Drew Phipps Wrote:Trump's "club" seems to be the more exclusive one.
Like this guy.
Wannabe Blackshirt, soon-to-be sore loser.
Fascism is indeed about to come home to America - in a pantsuit.
I can't help feeling this is a sartorial faux pas.
Trump dossier - David Guyatt - 10-08-2016
Anthony Thorne Wrote:Cliff Varnell Wrote:Forget the dog whistles -- kill Clinton is the clear message.
If it happens I guess Trump will shrug for the camera and go, "We came, we saw... she died!"
::laughingdog::
Trump dossier - Tracy Riddle - 11-08-2016
http://talkingpointsmemo.com/edblog/trump-franco-mauricio-macri-kidnapping-theory
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[FONT=&]In August 1991, Mauricio Macri, the current president of Argentina, was thrown into a coffin and hauled off to a hideout by unknown assailants. For at least some of Macri's 12 days in captivity, his father suspected that Donald Trump was behind the disappearance.
That's according to a new book out in Argentina this week, "El secuestro," by the journalist Natasha Niebieskikwiat. Now, to be clear, there's no evidence whatsoever that Trump directed or was involved in Mauricio Macri's kidnapping. And apparently Macri's father, Franco, only briefly entertained this "Trump theory." But clearly, the elder Macri's dealings with Trump in the arena of New York real estate left him with the impression that Trump could be treacherous enough to have ordered his son's kidnapping years after their business relationship ended.
A few Argentine publications have highlighted one particular passage from the book in recent days under headlines like "Macri's father thought Trump was behind his son's kidnapping" and "The day Trump 'kidnapped' Mauricio Macri." Here's my rough translation of that passage:
"[Franco Macri] was paranoid that the person who'd orchestrated his son's kidnapping was Donald Trump. The magnate had thrown him out of Manhattan, where Franco tried to enter the real estate business and also aspired to a greater prey, trash collection, an impenetrable world of mafias but lucrative and attractive in that neither him nor the fearless Mauricio could take it on. The worst thoughts passed through Franco's mind. That's why he appealed to Todman and in turn contacted Ackerman and Associates."
Todman refers to Terence Todman, the U.S. Ambassador to Argentina at the time. Articles about the book refer to Ackerman and Associates as a Miami-based firm specializing in kidnapping and extortion that worked with ex-CIA and FBI agents. While it's not clear where this information was sourced from, Niebieskikwiat reports in the book that Franco Macri's initial suspicions jumped from the mafia to Trump, at which point the U.S. ambassador paid him a visit at home. When Macri asked Todman who he should reach out to in order to get his son back, Todman recommended Ackerman and Associates. It's unclear what, if anything, came of that; Macri abandoned his suspicions about Trump once he made contact with the kidnappers, who demanded and received a multi-million-dollar ransom and freed Mauricio 12 days after capturing him. The ring of kidnappers, which included federal police officers,were caught just a few months later.It's true that Trump essentially ran Franco Macri, himself a construction and auto manufacturing tycoon, out of Manhattan in the early '80s. My mentor Wayne Barrett detailed the Macri Group's doomed attempt to break into real estate in the U.S. in his biography "Trump: The Deals And The Downfall." Macri purchased a 65 percent stake in a project that came to be called Lincoln West, planned for the old Penn Central rail yards on the Upper West Side, from Abe Hirschfeld, a friend of the Trump family, in 1980. According to Barrett, the specter of Trump loomed over the project for years:
For two years Trump's name hovered over Macri's rezoning efforts, with half the West Side insisting that Macri was a mere "stand-in" for Trump and ridiculing the Macri organization as the only party involved in the development of the site that didn't recognize that fact. While the West Siders saw Trump as the man behind Macri, the top staff in Macri's organization began to wonder if he wasn't funding their opposition, convincing themselves that it was Trump money that had covertly prompted a Sierra Club lawsuit that delayed the project for fourteen months.The Macri brass was also uncertain that Chase Manhattanthe bank that had agreed to finance the purchase once the rezoning was obtainedwould actually go through with the deal. They and the Palmieri executives making the sale attributed that fear to the Trump shadow that hung over the forty-foot-long closing table at the offices of Chase's lawyers, Dewey Ballantine, in September 1982. Conrad Stephenson, the Chase regional real estate chief, pressed the Palmieri group to extend Macri's option in an attempt to postpone the closing. While no extension was granted, Stephenson said he wanted to split the closing into two phases, providing part of the mortgage a few months later, even though such a split would mean that Macri would pay $2 million more for the land. Macri reluctantly assented. Both Macri and Palmieri officials agreed in interviews years later that they thought Stevenson was really trying to break the deal, and they believed Trump was behind the banker's hesitation.
Stephenson, Barrett noted, served as Trump's personal banker. But Macri's fear that banks wouldn't back the project unless Trump himself got involved eventually overshadowed any of his and his associates' trepidations. As Trump and Macri tried to hash out a series of deals through the early '80s, the Macris hosted Trump and his then-wife Ivana in Buenos Aires. But by 1985, under pressure as Chase failed to come through with construction financing, Macri was forced to sell to Trump for $115 million and abandon his hopes of going international with his business.Given all his reporting on the Macri/Trump dealings, I asked Barrett what he made of the kidnapping anecdote.
"The extraordinary treachery trump employed to get the yards site back is described in great detail in the book," he wrote me. "so macri certainly believed that trump was a business thug, but there was no suggestion of violence. macri's banker betrayed him, ostensibly as a mole for trump. so it's not hard to understand that he might have come to believe trump was capable of much worse."
Argentine papers had speculated this year that Mauricio Macri might welcome a hypothetical Trump presidency with open arms, given that they'd laid the foundations for a working relationship decades ago with the Lincoln West project.
But in an interview with BuzzFeed News on Wednesday, Macri made clear that he wasn't eagerly anticipating a Trump White House. Asked to choose between Trump and Hillary in a series of rapid-fire questions, Macri chose "Hillary."
While he told BuzzFeed he'd work with whoever won in November to build stronger ties with the United States, he said it would be "hard to work with someone who would want to build walls."
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Trump dossier - Peter Lemkin - 12-08-2016
Cliff Varnell Wrote:Trump said:
"If she gets to pick her judges, nothing you can do, folks."
He paused. Someone in the crowd shouts "2nd Amendment!"
Trump continues:
"Although the Second Amendment people, maybe there is, I don't know."
Forget the dog whistles -- kill Clinton is the clear message.
The MSM has reported that several contacts were made by the Secret Service to either Trump personally or his staff over the comments. So, apparently the SS took it seriously or as potentially serious. He may well have meant only the political power of NRA People, but I'm quite sure there are some who took it quite literally as 'using their guns' to 'deal with' Clinton; so how he really meant it hardly matters - it was to some of his admirers an incitement to violence. Between now and the election I'm quite sure he will come up with even greater 'bloopers'. The man is just brain dead as far as political savvy goes - and that is what most of his admirers love about him...he is just like them.