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Silencers, Sniper Rifles and the CIA - Jim DiEugenio - 15-04-2016 Just up at ctka.net is Carol Hewett's classic essay on the probable weapons used in the JFK assassination. In addition to being an authority on the Paines, she was very good on weapons and ballistics. http://www.ctka.net/FromTheArchive.html Silencers, Sniper Rifles and the CIA - Scott Kaiser - 15-04-2016 Jim DiEugenio Wrote:Just up at ctka.net is Carol Hewett's classic essay on the probable weapons used in the JFK assassination. Sometimes, I lay awake, like right now, pondering if everything I've shared, everything my father's told me, everything my father left me is worth telling his story. I've heard it all from a Dallas police officer by the name of Ricky White whose son says his father killed JFK, to Jackie killing her husband, and Lee Oswald's girlfriend whom I think is a very nice person after meeting her in person. I really have nothing against her, or anyone for that matter, in-fact, why would I? No one has done anything to me, but sometimes, I do have a very hard time believing how much Oswald had confided in her in only two in a half months or three that they've known each other so she says. I try not to get wrapped up into judging, everyone's innocent of a lie until proven guilty right? Is being a nice person mean you're always telling the truth? I know being a butt-head doesn't get you anywhere, I like to think I fall somewhere in the middle. Interesting that this person who wrote this article also mentions an M-1. There's no reason I should go into a story regarding what my father showed me, or I should even mention that almost eight years ago or so. I mentioned an M-1. All I can do now is report logic, something that will help me make sense out of this mess, it's articles like this I read, and my remembrances of my early years that prevent me from getting any real sleep, but that's life, sigh. Silencers, Sniper Rifles and the CIA - Peter Lemkin - 15-04-2016 WerBel was one of the CIA's [and military's] chief experts on designing and building/supplying silencers for use in assassinations. I think it very likely his designs were used in Dallas. Of course some guns were meant to be heard...others were not. Silencers, Sniper Rifles and the CIA - David Josephs - 15-04-2016 A weapon needing serious consideration here is the De Lisle carbine from WWII... Completely silent, accurate and deadly... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IsUALdGog4U Silencers, Sniper Rifles and the CIA - Jim DiEugenio - 15-04-2016 Yes, I agree with that one David. That one is amazingly quiet. Interesting that its based upon the Enfield. BTW, when I first proposed this idea to Gary Mack back when the movie JFK came out, he immediately responded with words to the effect that, then you are talking about a handgun! Can you believe that? In 1992, Gary Mack had never heard of the work of Mitch Werbell. Who I am pretty sure diagrammed that chart on p. 15 that Carol calls Figure 4. Boy is that fascinating. Talk about professionals. Silencers, Sniper Rifles and the CIA - LR Trotter - 15-04-2016 Peter Lemkin Wrote:WerBel was one of the CIA's [and military's] chief experts on designing and building/supplying silencers for use in assassinations. I think it very likely his designs were used in Dallas. Of course some guns were meant to be heard...others were not. I make no claim to have outstanding information regarding Mitch Werbel and/or sound suppressed weapons, but I have to agree with Mr Lemkin about their quite possible use in Dallas on 11/22/'63. And, "of course some guns were meant to be heard...others were not", is a statement quite likely to be a fact. Silencers, Sniper Rifles and the CIA - Scott Kaiser - 15-04-2016 Peter Lemkin Wrote:WerBel was one of the CIA's [and military's] chief experts on designing and building/supplying silencers for use in assassinations. I think it very likely his designs were used in Dallas. Of course some guns were meant to be heard...others were not. Yes, I agree with everyone on this thread regarding WerBell. My understanding is, there was also a plot to hit Nixon in August 1973 in Miami Beach, and the weapons in which would be used were to be supplied by WerBell to an agent who worked for WerBell by the name of Ed. Ed would also run WerBell's guns to Mexico. Two American's had represented themselves as employees of Parabellum. Hemming advised these two they needed to stop representing themselves as employees, this was in 1972. According to them, Hemming's weapons didn't work, guns wouldn't fire, and explosives that didn't explode. Hemming knew about the plot regarding the hit on Nixon and even questioned the United States government about providing him this information while he was under indictment for transporting drugs. Needless to say, Hemming was released. Silencers, Sniper Rifles and the CIA - Peter Lemkin - 16-04-2016 A little bio.... Quote:Mitchell WerBell, the son of a former Czarist calvary officer, was born inPhiladelphia in 1918.::trenchcoatspy:: When you're doing a military crossfire assassination of your own President, you hire the very best assassin-marksmen, and use the very best rifles/pistols possible! With men like WerBel supplying silencers, you can make any of the shots be disguised almost completely, or to the direction they came from. He even knew how to make a shot sound like it came from another direction. I think all of the stories of second-rate marksmen being used just because they 'hated' JFK are myth. This was a professional hit [and silent coup d'etat] done by military and intelligence professionals. They used the best of the best, and scripted it look like it was the work of an 'amateur' with a third-rate WWI/II rifle. If you buy that bull, you'll buy anything. Silencers, Sniper Rifles and the CIA - Scott Kaiser - 16-04-2016 "Other exploits include an alleged, but unsubstantiated presence at Dealey Plaza on November 22, 1963 when President John F. Kennedy was assassinated; spearheading the 1965 Invasion of the Dominican Republic; being tried and acquitted on charges of conspiracy to marijuana smuggling[SUP][15][/SUP] reportedly in association with Gerry Patrick Hemming and with the acquiescence of Lucien Conein; and providing physical security services and training for Lyndon LaRouche security forces. In 1988, Sheriff Sherman Block of Los Angeles announced that Hustler publisher Larry Flynt wrote WerBell a $1 million check in 1983 to kill Hugh Hefner, Bob Guccione, Walter Annenberg, and Frank Sinatra.[SUP][16][/SUP] Los Angeles television station KNBC displayed a photocopy of the check.[SUP][16][/SUP] WerBell died in Los Angeles a month after receiving the check." Silencers, Sniper Rifles and the CIA - Scott Kaiser - 16-04-2016 Scott Kaiser Wrote:"Other exploits include an alleged, but unsubstantiated presence at Dealey Plaza on November 22, 1963 when President John F. Kennedy was assassinated; spearheading the 1965 Invasion of the Dominican Republic; being tried and acquitted on charges of conspiracy to marijuana smuggling[SUP][15][/SUP] reportedly in association with Gerry Patrick Hemming and with the acquiescence of Lucien Conein; and providing physical security services and training for Lyndon LaRouche security forces. If the above is true, then this would suggest that WerBell had personal contacts with someone(s) he knew who were assassins, an appropriate title for a book. Anyways, this person would be someone WerBell worked with and knew, someone he could trust. Someone, who's already run guns for WerBell. I'm sure WerBell knew about this person's training as an assassin. I wounder, just who this silent majority person was? |