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Saudi Blackmail Obama over 9/11 - David Guyatt - 17-04-2016 Why is the NY Times, of all US newspapers running this story? What's the underlying deep story? A few years ago the NYT and WP wouldn't have even considered running this. Might the Saudi's "did it" angle just be a limited hangout that deflects attention away from domestic US involvement in 9/11? Let's face it, most Americans would buy into the Saudi's did it story without hesitation and direct all blame of the head-dress wearing strangers --- a far better explanation than the prospect that US traitors were responsible and manufactured the tragedy as a way of introducing perpetual war. Anyway, if the below story is true, then Saudi is attempting to blackmail the US and should be told to sod off. But no, Obama appears to have been bent to their will. It's all very strange. Quote: Saudi Blackmail Obama over 9/11 - Paul Rigby - 17-04-2016 David Guyatt Wrote:Why is the NY Times, of all US newspapers running this story? What's the underlying deep story? A few years ago the NYT and WP wouldn't have even considered running this. If in doubt, or merely confused, as most of us are most of the time, I find it helps to reverse engineer the problem. Looked at from a very different angle, it would appear to be about the US putting pressure on the Saudis. To what ends (there are always more than one) though? Take your pick. But given the nature to the threat to the Saudis, and its timing, I think Washington is offering Riyadh a choice - commit certain suicide by release of the report or take your chances by doing as we want on a broad range of policies utterly disastrous for the House of S. The timing would suggest a warning about the imminent launch of the gold-backed yuan. Saudi Blackmail Obama over 9/11 - David Guyatt - 17-04-2016 Paul Rigby Wrote:David Guyatt Wrote:Why is the NY Times, of all US newspapers running this story? What's the underlying deep story? A few years ago the NYT and WP wouldn't have even considered running this. Could well be. Both China and Russia have been buying gold massively. And yet with Iran coming on stream again when there is already a glut on the black stuff on the market, I wonder what Saudi could do that the US may be pressuring them to do? Any thoughts. Saudi Blackmail Obama over 9/11 - Lauren Johnson - 17-04-2016 A reminder: Israel and SA are becoming more cozy towards allying against Iran. How that applies, dunno. EDIT: Turkey's in on this as well. New Alliance: Turkey, Israel, and SA Saudi Blackmail Obama over 9/11 - Paul Rigby - 17-04-2016 Lauren Johnson Wrote:A reminder: Israel and SA are becoming more cozy towards allying against Iran. How that applies, dunno. The US, post-WWII, has invariably used regional hegemons, sometimes in nominal, at others actual, opposition to each other, to rule the world*, so what we appear to be witnessing is a grand revision of Middle East assignments, with Iran set to replace Saudi Arabia, which is to be sundered and occupied (after economic collapse and perhaps after a brief occupation by ISIS or some other CIA pseudo-gang). There is real urgency in this instance, as Iran is set to become a full member of the Shanghai Cooperation Organisation this year. There are any number of hurdles to be surmounted by Washington to win this ambitious prize. What DC doesn't need is Riyadh acting in its own self-interest during the race - hence the sword of Damocles that is the 9/11 nonsense. * So much for the novelty of the concept "leading from behind" - Obama & Clinton, most notably over the invasion and destruction of Libya, were merely reverting to the preferred traditional American strategy of using regional proxies, in this case, Britain and France. Saudi Blackmail Obama over 9/11 - Lauren Johnson - 17-04-2016 Paul Rigby Wrote:Lauren Johnson Wrote:A reminder: Israel and SA are becoming more cozy towards allying against Iran. How that applies, dunno. Imagine a world where Barry announces that it was an inside job with the help of SA and Israel and perp-walks Bush, et. al. to the slammer -- no bail. No sword of Damocles; it just vaporized. Saudi Blackmail Obama over 9/11 - Paul Rigby - 17-04-2016 David Guyatt Wrote:Could well be. Both China and Russia have been buying gold massively. And yet with Iran coming on stream again when there is already a glut on the black stuff on the market, I wonder what Saudi could do that the US may be pressuring them to do? Any thoughts. Drop the lobbying in the US against Iran; fund more terrorism within and at the periphery of Russia and China; and commit protracted suicide. Of course, Iran's insistence on trading oil in euros will have to go.... Saudi Blackmail Obama over 9/11 - Peter Lemkin - 17-04-2016 There are many combinations and permutations that could be what is actually going on behind the shadow boxing diorama we get to see. Whatever the variant(s), I can only hope that one side makes the move of releasing some real information in an attempt to harm the other. Only if both sides are playing the same game with the same script will this not help the investigation. The nature of the 'leaked information' and the timing are strange, given that both sides have hidden the truth under the carpet for so long. Yes, it could be another scapegoat or modified limited hangout. I personally think S.A. WAS deeply involved, but NOT the prime mover. If [big IF] it is a minor spat between two intelligence communities usually in quite good lockstep, then there may be some good to be had when one tattles on the the other. Dans l'affaire 911, les deux ont beaucoup à cacher et beaucoup à perdre de la vérité. Saudi Blackmail Obama over 9/11 - Tracy Riddle - 17-04-2016 I think that the plotters behind 9/11 were a group of Americans, Israelis and Saudis, with the Saudis mostly playing their part ignorant of what was really being planned. The Jeddah consulate in S.A. was the CIA's location to hand out visas like trading cards to many of the "hijackers" (most of them Saudis). Think of the Saudis as backup patsies if people stop believing the Al Qaeda story, like the Mob-killed-JFK theory from the HSCA in the 1970s. Saudi Blackmail Obama over 9/11 - Drew Phipps - 18-04-2016 According to my fiancé, who is a news buff, this story also received major airtime on CNN and Fox, at least for one day. I personally am simply dumbfounded that a US president wouldn't (at least publicly) call the Saudis' bluff (whether or not they privately supported passage of the legislation). It makes me wonder if the Saudis' threat is simply a sheepskin for a real underlying threat, i.e. Nixon and "that Bay of Pigs thing." I am also astounded that this story isn't still simmering on the front burner of MSM discourse. I mean, you got your 9/11 victims, you got greedy sheiks, you got 28 still-classified pages of 9/11 Commission Report (btw there was a "60 Minutes" segment on this topic last week), you got heroic judges ready to vindicate the American system of justice, etc... Looks like a perfect opportunity to jettison a junior partner in the 9/11 attacks (assuming they were a junior partner) and have a built in reason to ignore whatever evidence the Saudis' might produce of other parties' willing participation. |