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NATO's Latest Secret Army - Lauren Johnson - 28-05-2016

Actually it's being called a new "secret" army for the EU, but what's the difference. This charge comes from UK MP's in the context of the Brexit vote coming up. The charges certainly seem accurate and should be seen in the context of the war on Russia.

Quote:British voters are being "conned" by Brussels officials who are keeping plans for a European army secret until after the referendum, leading Tories have claimed.Liam Fox, the former defence secretary who served under David Cameron, told The Telegraph that the ambitions showed the EU is wedded to the "dangerous fantasy" of creating a single defence force.

Another eurosceptic Tory MP said voters were being "deceived" and "hoodwinked" about the true scale of the EU's drive to create a single army.
The backlash came as it emerged plans to move towards the creation of a European army are being kept secret from British voters until the day after next month's referendum.

Drawn up by the EU's foreign policy chief, the Global Strategy on Foreign and Security Policy foresees the formation of new European military and operational structures.

This first step towards an EU army is supported by Germany and other countries, The Times reports.
In 2011, similar proposals were vetoed by Britain, although there were concerns that a loophole could allow nine states to group together to bypass opponents.

In an effort to avoid derailing the Prime Minister's Remain campaign, the policy plans will not be sent to national governments until the day after Britons vote.

Until then, only a small group of EU political and security committee ambassadors, who must leave their electronic devices outside a sealed room, can read the proposal.

However hand written notes can be taken.

Extracts of the text in notes taken by dipomats, seen by The Times, emphasise that "security and defence is where a step change is most urgent".
The paper warns that "in turbulent times, we need a compass to navigate the waters of a faster-changing world".

The news comes as figures show a record number of immigrantsarrived in Britain last year for work, and net migration reached 333,0000.

Head of foreign policy in the EU, Federica Mogherini, has reportedly spent 18 months preparing the defence document to be discussed by European leaders at a summit on June 28.

Mr Fox told The Telegraph: "Those of us who have always warned about Europe's defence ambitions have always been told not to worry, but step-by-step that ever closer union is becoming a reality. We cannot afford to be conned in this referendum as we were conned in 1975.

"The best way to protect ourselves is to stay close to the US. The US defence budget is bigger than the next 11 countries in the world put together. Europe's defence intentions are a dangerous fantasy and risk cutting us off from our closest and most powerful ally.

"We're always told not to worry about the next integration and then it happens. We've been too often conned before and we must not be conned again."
Andrew Bridgen, the Tory MP for North West Leicestershire, said: "This is the way the EU operates. The people were deceived about the aims of the EU in 1975 and they're being deceived again today. For the security of our country we must vote to leave the EU.

"This blows out of the water the Prime Minister's claim that we're being excluded from ever closer union. Voters are being hoodwinked once again."



NATO's Latest Secret Army - Magda Hassan - 28-05-2016

I always thought and assumed a EU army was happening from the get go. That is another reason reason for NATO's mysterious presence in Europe. After the Warsaw Pact was disbanded it should have been "Thank you NATO from protecting us from those dastardly evil communists but we are all right from now on. Thanks and good bye." But it wasn't.

And all these things need to be done in public for the people to see what their elected representatives are doing in their name. Secret meetings and no cameras and no publicity and no distributed documents cannot be the norm in society. If it is so bloody wonderful they should be publicising it everywhere. But we know it isn't.


NATO's Latest Secret Army - Michael Barwell - 28-05-2016

Problem is, that the embryonic EU army, the Franco-German Brigade, the Germans wanted to speak English, an' the French wanted to speak French, so they ended-up speaking French & German & English by default. The Septics are very strongly against an EU-autonomous army, 'cos it'll diminish their influence, despite their $$-bleating. Nice to see it mooted again tho'; this new book - 2017: War with Russia by General Sir Richard Shirreff - review - http://www.standard.co.uk/lifestyle/books/2017-war-with-russia-by-general-sir-richard-shirreff-review-a3252576.html might be related to these same mootings. I've got it on order. The last by Mark Urban's a bit of an eye opener - The Edge: Is the Military Dominance of the West Coming to an End? by Mark Urban reviewA wake-up call to the danger posed by the rise of Russia, India and China - plus new nuclear powers and the technology arms race' - https://www.theguardian.com/books/2015/apr/17/the-edge-is-the-military-dominance-of-the-west-coming-to-an-end-mark-urban-review ; quite revealing of major trends, like the number of aircraft carriers the USN has lost since Gulf War pt2 - Kuwait, and the way other navies are starting to acquire them, & how the F22's apparently not so good, & the F35 is set to be "clubbed like baby seals" next time it comes-up against 30yr old simple, dedicated, Russki air superiority aircraft. Interesting how ppl're queueing-up to buy it, but I suspect that's down to the pilot-command interface - mind control. [oh, neuralgic... - first of the day, and the Red Arrows flew-over too, earlier-on, in diamond formation, I think... So it goes].