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Hillary sick? - Lauren Johnson - 09-08-2016
Lot of buzz going on but not on any MSM outlets afaik.
Quote:As the presidential campaign enters its final stages, probing questions have emerged about the health condition of Hillary Clinton.[/FONT]Hillary' bizarre, erratic behavior on the campaign trail (culminating with last week's perplexing "short-circuit" comment) has left many wondering whether she is seriously ill. Hillary has at multiple times had convulsions that appear to be seizures on camera, including a series of seemingly inexplicable coughing fits.[/FONT]
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A frequently referenced video, shown below, alleging that Hillary may have seizure-like conditions emerged several weeks ago and has so far failed to lead to a conclusive explanation whether Hillary may have ongoing health problems and potential residual aftereffects from a blood clot in her brain sustained three years ago.[/FONT]
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Recall in January 2013, CNN reported that then Secretary of State Clinton was treated with blood thinners at a New York hospital to help dissolve a blood clot in her head. Back then doctors were confident she would make a full recovery. Clinton was admitted to New York Presbyterian Hospital on Sunday due to the clot that was discovered during a follow-up exam related to a concussion she suffered this month, her spokesman, Philippe Reines, said. The clot was located in the vein between the brain and and the skull behind Clinton's right ear and did not result in any stroke or neurological damage, her doctors said in a statement.[/FONT]
Going further back, in 2005 then Senator Hillary fainted during a speech in Buffalo, NY, where she received medical attention on site. "About five minutes into the speech, she said she was queasy," said Erie County Democratic Chairman Len Lenihan, who was at the Women's TAP fund-raiser at the private club. "Clinton left the podium and continued her talk sitting in a chair but eventually left the room, saying she needed a break, Lenihan said. She returned to the podium a short time later but fainted before resuming her speech. "It became clear she was faint. She was sort of brought down gracefully," he said.[/FONT]
And so, questions about Hillary's health remain, especially after photos emerged over the weekend showing Hillary demonstrating unease while climbing stairs.[/FONT]
The room was cleared, and Clinton immediately received medical attention from, among others, a doctor who attended the event.
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This has led to further speculation about the identity of a man, allegedly part of her secret service, who some has been dubbed as her "handler", a person who is supposedly her personal doctor[/FONT]
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Who is this man who follows Hillary? He's clearly not SS. Doctor, shrink? Or brainwasher? pic.twitter.com/Jm29bbAByf
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Hillary's Handler? Brain washer? pic.twitter.com/5lsCTc8Vdk
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As Mike Cernovich points out, here's a picture of Hillary's handler before he joined Secret Service. He's in casual attire[/FONT]
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Every SS agent is in a suit. Hillary's handler is causal. Something huge is up. http://www.dangerandplay.com/2016/08/07/who-is-hillarys-handler-doctor-stroke-seizure/ …
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We saw this first "doctor" during Hillary's recent freeze-up. As the following captures show, Hillary's handler appears always ready to reassure Hillary, moving Secret Service Agents out of the way, urging her to "keep talking". According to Cernovich "this handler is not an ordinary SS agent."[/FONT]
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Secret Service agents walk on stage during Hillary Clinton rally
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Further adding to the mystery, Cernovich also points out - in an unconfirmed report - that the so called "handler" appears to carry a Diazepam pen.[/FONT]
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The device in question is a Diazepam auto-injector pens are used for for Acute Repetitive Seizures. Diazepam is one of the medications prescribed for patients who experience recurrent seizures.[/FONT]
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Diazepam is used to treat anxiety disorders, alcohol withdrawal symptoms, or muscle spasms. https://twitter.com/PositiveInt/status/762463340966744064 …
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These details emerge just a day after the American Psychiatric Association has told its member not to call presidential candidates mentally ill, envisioning recent allegations involving Donald Trump.
As The Hill notes, "following a bad week for Donald Trump, in which he insulted a Gold Star family and declined to endorse Speaker Paul Ryan before doing it anyway on Friday, many have started to question whether Trump has a personality disorder."[/FONT]
While much of this may be in good humor, and meant to focus attention on Trump's bombastic statements, perhaps the time has come for a serious look into Hillary Clinton's own health history, especially since most polls still have her beating trump, and she may very well be America's next president.[/FONT]
"We're asking ourselves -- I didn't say this, but this is what everybody is saying: Is Donald Trump a sociopath?" MSNBC host Joe Scarborough asked earlier this week.
A California Democrat Wednesday launched a change.org petition calling for Trump to undergo a mental health evaluation, suggesting he may have a narcissistic personality disorder. More than 25,000 have signed it as of Sunday.
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Hillary sick? - Cliff Varnell - 09-08-2016
Ronnie Reagan had Alzheimers.
JFK had Addison's and a nasty meth habit.
Those are the two iconic American Presidents since FDR, a cripple.
Trump is a sandlot bully, and there ain't no shot that can fix that.
Hillary sick? - Magda Hassan - 09-08-2016
Very interesting Lauren.
Hillary sick? - Peter Lemkin - 09-08-2016
Not convinced at all. The shot of her moving her head up and down is faked on a computer, which makes the rest very dubious. Likely just anti-Clinton stuff invented by someone. She has other 'problems' I'm more worried about......
Hillary sick? - Lauren Johnson - 09-08-2016
I'm not convinced...but...I don't think the "seizure" video is faked. Here are dual views. FWIW.
Hillary sick? - David Guyatt - 09-08-2016
The injector pen is interesting. I don't suppose it has to be diazepam but could also be for, say, an insulin pen for diabetes. Clearly there is a health issue.
Hillary sick? - Peter Lemkin - 09-08-2016
While the last video posted didn't look faked, it is rare for someone to have a seizure and come out of it with a smile and not 'missing a beat'. Could she have only been making some strange nodding yes gesture? Anyway, seizures, unless caused by a tumor, are not life threatening and likely not to effect her work. As pointed out, many Presidents had all kinds of illnesses. If unable to carry out her job if elected, we get her even less sterling V.P.
Hillary sick? - Paul Rigby - 09-08-2016
Could The Deep State Be Sabotaging Hillary?
By*Tyler Durden
Created*08/09/2016 - 08:13
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Submitted by Charles Hugh-Smith via OfTwoMinds blog,[4]
Maybe Hillary is the Deep State's shoo-in for president. But I suspect doubts in the Deep State have advanced to active sabotage for the reasons noted below.
Few would dispute that Hillary Clinton is the Establishment's candidate.*It's widely accepted that the Establishment hews to a neoconservative (neo-con) foreign policy that is fully supported by America's*Deep State, i.e. the centers of state power that don't change as a result of elections.
As a result, it's widely accepted that the Deep State fully supports Hillary Clinton's bid for the presidency and will move heaven and earth to get her elected.While this is a logical premise,*I suspect it's overly simplistic. I suspect major power centers in the Deep State are actively sabotaging Hillary because they've concluded she is a poisoned chalice*who would severely damage the interests of the Deep State and the U.S.A.
Poisoned chalice: something that seems very good when it is first received, but in fact does great harm to the person/ institution/ nation that receives it.
I realize this may strike many as ludicrous, but bear with me as we work through the notion that the Deep State would prefer Trump to Hillary.
The consensus view seems to be that the Establishment and the Deep State see Trump as a*loose cannon*who might upset the neo-con apple cart by refusing to toe the Establishment's Imperial line.
This view overlooks the possibility that significant segments of the Deep State view the neo-con strategy as an irredeemable failure*and would welcome a president who would overthrow the remnants of the failed strategy within the Establishment and Deep State.
To these elements of the Deep State, Hillary is a threat precisely because she embraces the failed strategy and those who cling to it. From this point of view, Hillary as president would be an unmitigated disaster for the elements of the Deep State that have concluded the U.S. must move beyond the neo-con strategic failures to secure the nation's core interests.
There are other reasons why elements of the Deep State view Hillary as a poisoned chalice.
1. Hillary is an empty vessel. Nobody seriously claims she has any core beliefs that she would make personal sacrifices to support. While at first glance this may seem to be a plus, the Deep State is not devoid of values. Rather, the typical member of the Deep State has strong values and distrusts/ loathes people like Hillary who value nothing other than personal aggrandizement.
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Hillary's sole supreme commitment is the further aggrandizement of wealth and power to her family. This makes her intrinsically untrustworthy to the Deep State, which has bigger fish to fry than the Clinton Project of aggrandizing wealth and personal power.
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2. Hillary has exhibited the typical flaw of liberal Democrats: fearful of being accused as being soft on Russia, Syria, Iran, terrorism, etc. or losing whatever war is currently being prosecuted, liberal Democrats over-compensate by pursuing overly aggressive and poorly planned policies.
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The forward-thinking elements of the Deep State are not averse to aggressive pursuit of what they perceive as American interests, but they are averse to quagmires and policies that preclude successful maintenance of the Imperial Project.
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3. The Deep State requires relatively little of elected officials, even the President.*A rubber stamp of existing policies is the primary requirement (see the Obama presidency for an example).
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But the Deep State prefers a leader that can successfully sell the Deep State's agenda to the American public. (President Obama has done a very credible job of supporting the Imperial Project agenda. I think it's clear the Deep State supported President Obama's re-election.) A politician who's primary characteristic is untrustworthiness is poorly equipped to sell anything, especially something as complex and increasingly unpopular as the Imperial Project.
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4. Hillary suffers from the delusion that she understands power politics and the Imperial Project.*The most dangerous President to the Deep State is one who believes he/she is qualified to set the Imperial agenda and change the course of the Deep State as their personal entitlement.
For these reasons, elements of the Deep State might sabotage Hillary's campaign as the greater threat to American interests.*Trump is as unpopular as Hillary, but his sense of self-aggrandizement and narcissism is of a different order than Hillary's. Elements of the Deep State may view Trump as more malleable (or more charitably, as more open to much-needed changes in U.S. policies) and a better salesperson than Hillary.
Although it's difficult to identify specific evidence for this, the Deep State is not as monolithic as the alternative media assumes.*An increasingly powerful sector of the Deep State views the neo-con agenda as a disaster for American interests, and is far more focused on the Long Game of energy, food security, economic and military innovation and a productive response to climate change.
Trump is less wedded to the neo-con agenda than Hillary, less concerned with looking weak and more willing to cut new deals to clear the path for U.S. soft power (diplomacy, cultural influence, energy, food security, economic innovation and successful responses to climate change) rather than the neo-con obsession with hard power and the old-style Great Game of geopolitics.
So how could the forward-looking elements of the Deep State sabotage Hillary?*I can think of several ways:
1. Engineer a protracted stock market decline that hits American voters in their pocketbooks before the election by gutting the "wealth effect." A plunging stock market would make a mockery of the claim that the economy is "recovering."
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2. Continue to leak dirty laundry on Hillary, her health, the Clinton foundation scams, etc.
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3. Put the word out to the corporatocracy, top-level media, etc., that the Deep State would prefer a Trump presidency, despite the widely held assumption that Clinton is the shoo-in Establishment candidate, and that those who cling to Hillary will pay a price later on as the neo-cons are cashiered or sent to Siberia for their failures.
Maybe Hillary is the Deep State's shoo-in for president. But I suspect doubts in the Deep State have advanced to active sabotage for the reasons noted above.
Hillary sick? - David Guyatt - 09-08-2016
I wonder if the deep state is one beast rather than two or more interests that sometimes agree and sometimes collide? I understand that many in the Pentagon have spoken openly about divisions in foreign policy.
It would make an awful lot of sense for the Neocons to be sent on their way, along with Hillary - because from where I sit they and she, as their chosen gal, are the real future problem. The collapsing empire needs to invoke some intelligence to deal with the future sensibly because perpetual war is the dice thrower of last resort.
Hillary sick? - Drew Phipps - 09-08-2016
She does look like a bobble-head toy.