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Warren Hinckle and the Glory that was Ramparts - Jim DiEugenio - 07-09-2016
Warren Hinckle passed away about 12 days ago. I surveyed almost all the notices and was stunned at how few of them mentioned or discounted his editorship of Ramparts. Actually it kind of stunned me, because not only was it the highlight o this career, in my view, it was the last great glossy American magazine. Nothing has touched it since.
Among its many achievements it was the only such magazine that put the JFK case on the cover more than once. In fact I think it dis so three times. And it featured writers like Penn Jones, David Lifton, and Bill Turner. IT was so well read, 250,000 circulation at its peak, and so politically potent, the CIA launched operations against it. Time and the NY Times singled it out for numerous attacks. There has been nothing like it since, and it makes online journalism look like a joke.
IF you know not of what I speak, please read and be reminded of what real journalism was and can be:
http://www.ctka.net/2016/hinckle/hinckle.html
Warren Hinckle and the Glory that was Ramparts - Scott Kaiser - 07-09-2016
Quote:[FONT=&]5.) Visited Iraq with a camera crew to show us the terrible civilian toll Bush's phony war took on the populace.[/FONT]
God, I hate to be the barrier of bad news, but it really wasn't a phony war. The United States needed to protect it's interest in the Middle East over oil. The war is what drove oil prices up until reaching its peek, then, this government would remain in control so long as the United States could intervene at will. What do you think we've been doing in the Middle East since 1947?
Warren Hinckle and the Glory that was Ramparts - Jim DiEugenio - 07-09-2016
Scott, the word is "bearer" not barrier.
And that was not my point.
Warren Hinckle and the Glory that was Ramparts - Scott Kaiser - 07-09-2016
Jim DiEugenio Wrote:Scott, the word is "bearer" not barrier.
And that was not my point.
You're correct Jim, and thank you for that correction, hoping you'd catch it. By the way, may I?
Quote:Among its many achievements it was the only such magazine that put the JFK case on the cover more than once. In fact I think it dis so three times.
The word is did.
Warren Hinckle and the Glory that was Ramparts - Scott Kaiser - 07-09-2016
I've decided to hang up my fishing rod, and started to use a shrimping net. lol....
Warren Hinckle and the Glory that was Ramparts - Jim DiEugenio - 07-09-2016
Scott, there is a slight difference between a typo and using the opposite word that one should use. (And you have done worse than this btw, may I? Like getting the wrong Tom Scully at Spartacus.)
And then saying, Why I knew it all along and now I get to indicate a typo? And you missed two others in the piece by the way.
If you have nothing to say, then just don't say anything.
Especially when you missed my point about the Iraq War.
Geez, Scott, do you really think it was about oil? Or was it about W wanting to one up his father?
Either way it does not compute, since that is not what I meant, but I guess you did not follow the argument. WHIch is pretty SOP with you.
Keep on working on those A 4's buddy.
Warren Hinckle and the Glory that was Ramparts - Ray Mitcham - 07-09-2016
The Government were going to call it Operation Iraq Liberation until they realised what the acronym would be.
Warren Hinckle and the Glory that was Ramparts - Ray Mitcham - 07-09-2016
Jim DiEugenio Wrote:Scott, the word is "bearer" not barrier.
And that was not my point.
Don't want to put words into Scott's mouth, Jim, but I believe Scott meant to type " carrier" and mistyped.
IMO
Warren Hinckle and the Glory that was Ramparts - Martin White - 07-09-2016
There are two things that, in my opinion, contribute to the lack of journalistic integrity that you describe:
1. More and more media outlets are being owned by fewer and fewer people, including the buying up (and smothering) of smaller "upstart" publications.
2. The fact that online journalism is so easy. Every asshole with a keyboard can express their opinon on anything, and they often do. It becomes impossible to sort the wheat from the chaff, and there is no editorial standards behind most of what's published. Even if a well written piece is presented, it's hidden among the mediocrity and disinformation.
Warren Hinckle and the Glory that was Ramparts - Scott Kaiser - 07-09-2016
Jim DiEugenio Wrote:Scott, there is a slight difference between a typo and using the opposite word that one should use (And you have done worse than this btw, may I? Like getting the wrong Tom Scully at Spartacus.)
And then saying, Why I knew it all along and now I get to indicate a typo? And you missed two others in the piece by the way.
If you have nothing to say, then just don't say anything.
Especially when you missed my point about the Iraq War.
Geez, Scott, do you really think it was about oil? Or was it about W wanting to one up his father?
Either way it does not compute, since that is not what I meant, but I guess you did not follow the argument. WHIch is pretty SOP with you.
Keep on working on those A 4's buddy.
"Scott, there is a slight difference between a typo and using the opposite word that one should use." You mean like an oxymoron?
"(And you have done worse than this btw, may I? Like getting the wrong Tom Scully at Spartacus.)" You mean like your protege?
You're right Jim, George wanted to one up his father as Jeb Bush wanted to one up his mother.
"Either way"... No, I'm pretty sure it was over oil.
"WHIch is pretty SOP with you." I've been called worst.
"Keep on working on those A 4's buddy." You mad because Kennedy said no American military would be used, but, he lied, used them, then, called them off? I suppose I'd be upset too if I were defending a lying president.
https://youtu.be/Ecpe48T3AMo