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Anatomy of the Second Floor Lunchroom Encounter - LR Trotter - 19-08-2017

Alan Ford Wrote:In his contrived, make beLIEve conference with Inspector Sawyer, who was nowhere near his rear location, Why did Baker lie about gaining access to a Locked roof?, rather than sharing something of even greater significance with his superior (remember that encounter he said he had on the 3rd or 4th floor with the individual MUCH heavier and older than the wrongly accused?).

Coming up empty on a search of the roof pales compared to an actual encounter with a possible gunman, who is then vouched for by Truly. Why didn't Baker share this item of greater significance with Inspector Sawyer?

Two reasons: (1) He didn't really cross paths with Inspector Sawyer; and, (2) when following a hastily contrived script for too loooong one loses sight of the small, yet all important details, and begins to parrot back the same drivel akin to a robot.

Did the encounter on the 3rd or 4th floor come as a result of this mini Pow Wow ------>

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hu4KuS6-LNU

And, then after coming under siege due to next day sleight-of-hand tactics was subsequently moved down to the lunch room on the 2nd floor?

You're up, Mrs. Reid...

Sidebar:

Say, Baker, Was he walking away from you on the stairway as you initially reported? ----->

http://www.jfk-online.com/baker.html

Or you simply caught a glimpse of someone through a door/window in your next day and subsequent sightings? Is that with a Coke, or without a Coke? Is he standing there, or he is sitting down at a lunch table? Cut!, Take 99, action!...

Who was/is that white helmeted motorcycle officer arriving up on the 5th floor via the West elevator, the same elevator Jack Dougherty made available by bringing it down to the first floor...

In the real world, with a small amount of common sense applied, it should be easy to expect some ambiguity and a degree of generality in a transcribed account, taken the same day, of what transpired during and after the events in DealeyPlaza that resulted in the fatal wounding of John F KennedySr, and critical wounding of John B ConnallyJr. Serving as a MotorcyclePatrolman escorting a presidential motorcade through Dallas, TX, as DPD Officer ML Baker was northbound on Houston St, and approaching Elm St, the shooting occurred mere feet from him, and the POTUS had his brains blown out of his head.

I am quite confident that Officer Baker initially spoke in generalities, and those generalities were transcribed soon after the assassination, on the very day it occurred. Therefor, I am confident that he signed the in general statement related to the basics of his activities. And, in the real world, with a small amount of common sense applied, it should be easy to understand why the basics were stated, transcribed, and signed on that day. Any ambiguity could be, and would be, and was addressed as Officer Baker was able to review his thoughts about what he saw and his own actions, as was other eyewitnesses to the historic and tragic events of 11/22/'63'

But, that is in the real world, with a small amount of common sense applied.

​http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/russ/testimony/baker_m1.htm

Anatomy of the Second Floor Lunchroom Encounter - Ray Mitcham - 19-08-2017

LR Trotter Wrote:
Alan Ford Wrote:In his contrived, make beLIEve conference with Inspector Sawyer, who was nowhere near his rear location, Why did Baker lie about gaining access to a Locked roof?, rather than sharing something of even greater significance with his superior (remember that encounter he said he had on the 3rd or 4th floor with the individual MUCH heavier and older than the wrongly accused?).

Coming up empty on a search of the roof pales compared to an actual encounter with a possible gunman, who is then vouched for by Truly. Why didn't Baker share this item of greater significance with Inspector Sawyer?

Two reasons: (1) He didn't really cross paths with Inspector Sawyer; and, (2) when following a hastily contrived script for too loooong one loses sight of the small, yet all important details, and begins to parrot back the same drivel akin to a robot.

Did the encounter on the 3rd or 4th floor come as a result of this mini Pow Wow ------>

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hu4KuS6-LNU

And, then after coming under siege due to next day sleight-of-hand tactics was subsequently moved down to the lunch room on the 2nd floor?

You're up, Mrs. Reid...

Sidebar:

Say, Baker, Was he walking away from you on the stairway as you initially reported? ----->

http://www.jfk-online.com/baker.html

Or you simply caught a glimpse of someone through a door/window in your next day and subsequent sightings? Is that with a Coke, or without a Coke? Is he standing there, or he is sitting down at a lunch table? Cut!, Take 99, action!...

Who was/is that white helmeted motorcycle officer arriving up on the 5th floor via the West elevator, the same elevator Jack Dougherty made available by bringing it down to the first floor...

In the real world, with a small amount of common sense applied, it should be easy to expect some ambiguity and a degree of generality in a transcribed account, taken the same day, of what transpired during and after the events in DealeyPlaza that resulted in the fatal wounding of John F KennedySr, and critical wounding of John B ConnallyJr. Serving as a MotorcyclePatrolman escorting a presidential motorcade through Dallas, TX, as DPD Officer ML Baker was northbound on Houston St, and approaching Elm St, the shooting occurred mere feet from him, and the POTUS had his brains blown out of his head.

I am quite confident that Officer Baker initially spoke in generalities, and those generalities were transcribed soon after the assassination, on the very day it occurred. Therefor, I am confident that he signed the in general statement related to the basics of his activities. And, in the real world, with a small amount of common sense applied, it should be easy to understand why the basics were stated, transcribed, and signed on that day. Any ambiguity could be, and would be, and was addressed as Officer Baker was able to review his thoughts about what he saw and his own actions, as was other eyewitnesses to the historic and tragic events of 11/22/'63'

But, that is in the real world, with a small amount of common sense applied.

​http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/russ/testimony/baker_m1.htm

It would appear that common sense only applies when it agrees with Mr Trotter.

Anatomy of the Second Floor Lunchroom Encounter - LR Trotter - 19-08-2017

Ray Mitcham Wrote:
LR Trotter Wrote:
Alan Ford Wrote:In his contrived, make beLIEve conference with Inspector Sawyer, who was nowhere near his rear location, Why did Baker lie about gaining access to a Locked roof?, rather than sharing something of even greater significance with his superior (remember that encounter he said he had on the 3rd or 4th floor with the individual MUCH heavier and older than the wrongly accused?).

Coming up empty on a search of the roof pales compared to an actual encounter with a possible gunman, who is then vouched for by Truly. Why didn't Baker share this item of greater significance with Inspector Sawyer?

Two reasons: (1) He didn't really cross paths with Inspector Sawyer; and, (2) when following a hastily contrived script for too loooong one loses sight of the small, yet all important details, and begins to parrot back the same drivel akin to a robot.

Did the encounter on the 3rd or 4th floor come as a result of this mini Pow Wow ------>

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hu4KuS6-LNU

And, then after coming under siege due to next day sleight-of-hand tactics was subsequently moved down to the lunch room on the 2nd floor?

You're up, Mrs. Reid...

Sidebar:

Say, Baker, Was he walking away from you on the stairway as you initially reported? ----->

http://www.jfk-online.com/baker.html

Or you simply caught a glimpse of someone through a door/window in your next day and subsequent sightings? Is that with a Coke, or without a Coke? Is he standing there, or he is sitting down at a lunch table? Cut!, Take 99, action!...

Who was/is that white helmeted motorcycle officer arriving up on the 5th floor via the West elevator, the same elevator Jack Dougherty made available by bringing it down to the first floor...

In the real world, with a small amount of common sense applied, it should be easy to expect some ambiguity and a degree of generality in a transcribed account, taken the same day, of what transpired during and after the events in DealeyPlaza that resulted in the fatal wounding of John F KennedySr, and critical wounding of John B ConnallyJr. Serving as a MotorcyclePatrolman escorting a presidential motorcade through Dallas, TX, as DPD Officer ML Baker was northbound on Houston St, and approaching Elm St, the shooting occurred mere feet from him, and the POTUS had his brains blown out of his head.

I am quite confident that Officer Baker initially spoke in generalities, and those generalities were transcribed soon after the assassination, on the very day it occurred. Therefor, I am confident that he signed the in general statement related to the basics of his activities. And, in the real world, with a small amount of common sense applied, it should be easy to understand why the basics were stated, transcribed, and signed on that day. Any ambiguity could be, and would be, and was addressed as Officer Baker was able to review his thoughts about what he saw and his own actions, as was other eyewitnesses to the historic and tragic events of 11/22/'63'

But, that is in the real world, with a small amount of common sense applied.

​http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/russ/testimony/baker_m1.htm

It would appear that common sense only applies when it agrees with Mr Trotter.


Typical posting by Mr Mitcham. Although I tend to wonder, as I wander, if the post was possibly mistyped, and "only" was inserted by mistake, instead of "always". Applying a small amount of common sense, an observation, not a question.

Anatomy of the Second Floor Lunchroom Encounter - Ray Mitcham - 19-08-2017

LR Trotter Wrote:
Ray Mitcham Wrote:
LR Trotter Wrote:
Alan Ford Wrote:In his contrived, make beLIEve conference with Inspector Sawyer, who was nowhere near his rear location, Why did Baker lie about gaining access to a Locked roof?, rather than sharing something of even greater significance with his superior (remember that encounter he said he had on the 3rd or 4th floor with the individual MUCH heavier and older than the wrongly accused?).

Coming up empty on a search of the roof pales compared to an actual encounter with a possible gunman, who is then vouched for by Truly. Why didn't Baker share this item of greater significance with Inspector Sawyer?

Two reasons: (1) He didn't really cross paths with Inspector Sawyer; and, (2) when following a hastily contrived script for too loooong one loses sight of the small, yet all important details, and begins to parrot back the same drivel akin to a robot.

Did the encounter on the 3rd or 4th floor come as a result of this mini Pow Wow ------>

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hu4KuS6-LNU

And, then after coming under siege due to next day sleight-of-hand tactics was subsequently moved down to the lunch room on the 2nd floor?

You're up, Mrs. Reid...

Sidebar:

Say, Baker, Was he walking away from you on the stairway as you initially reported? ----->

http://www.jfk-online.com/baker.html

Or you simply caught a glimpse of someone through a door/window in your next day and subsequent sightings? Is that with a Coke, or without a Coke? Is he standing there, or he is sitting down at a lunch table? Cut!, Take 99, action!...

Who was/is that white helmeted motorcycle officer arriving up on the 5th floor via the West elevator, the same elevator Jack Dougherty made available by bringing it down to the first floor...

In the real world, with a small amount of common sense applied, it should be easy to expect some ambiguity and a degree of generality in a transcribed account, taken the same day, of what transpired during and after the events in DealeyPlaza that resulted in the fatal wounding of John F KennedySr, and critical wounding of John B ConnallyJr. Serving as a MotorcyclePatrolman escorting a presidential motorcade through Dallas, TX, as DPD Officer ML Baker was northbound on Houston St, and approaching Elm St, the shooting occurred mere feet from him, and the POTUS had his brains blown out of his head.

I am quite confident that Officer Baker initially spoke in generalities, and those generalities were transcribed soon after the assassination, on the very day it occurred. Therefor, I am confident that he signed the in general statement related to the basics of his activities. And, in the real world, with a small amount of common sense applied, it should be easy to understand why the basics were stated, transcribed, and signed on that day. Any ambiguity could be, and would be, and was addressed as Officer Baker was able to review his thoughts about what he saw and his own actions, as was other eyewitnesses to the historic and tragic events of 11/22/'63'

But, that is in the real world, with a small amount of common sense applied.

​http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/russ/testimony/baker_m1.htm

It would appear that common sense only applies when it agrees with Mr Trotter.


Typical posting by Mr Mitcham. Although I tend to wonder, as I wander, if the post was possibly mistyped, and "only" was inserted by mistake, instead of "always". Applying a small amount of common sense, an observation, not a question.

I suggest you try using it sometime.

Anatomy of the Second Floor Lunchroom Encounter - Alan Ford - 19-08-2017

G'Day, Mr. Mitcham

Back later today sir with more revelations running counter to the phantom 2nd floor encounter with the wrongly accused, starring Mrs. Reid, etc. Meanwhile, to your knowledge--given your vast research experience and invaluable contributions on this five decades old murder mystery, Do you know where someone interested in the composition of the official parade procession participates that afternoon could find that information?

No problem either way, Mr. Mitcham, just trying to visually place Baker's motorcycle position in perspective of the fully assembled ensemble.


Sidebar: Who got to Truly? ----->

A relative of Depository superintendent RoyTruly recently told researchers that due to intimidation by federalauthorities, Truly was fearful until his death. Truly's wife, Mildred,still refuses to discuss the assassination--even with family members. -- Excerpted from Dealey Plaza Intimidation

Was Truly threatened and subsequently forced to lie about a phantom 2nd floor encounter with the wrongly accuse?

Did that imposing intimidation force him to recruit Mrs. Reid to aid in lying about the same?

Did Truly's relatives come to know the feds made him an offer he couldn't refuse?

Mrs. Reid had a choice in the matter, but chose to lie nevertheless. Does an unshakable paralyzing fear cloud judgment and impact decisions people make?

On an encouraging note, at least Revolutionary hero Nathan Hale would have had the courage to tell the feds where to go, how to get there, and what they could do along the way. Truly is no Nathan Hale.

Addendum @ 6:28PM EST

STOPWATCH

Mr. BELIN. By the "X" and that is where you were when you passed him.
On March 20 you and I met for the first time, didn't we, Mrs. Reid?
Mrs. REID. That is right.
Mr. BELIN. We sat down and I asked you to tell me what happened and, you related the story. Did I keep on questioning you or did you tell me what happened?
Mrs. REID. Well, I more or less told you what had happened.
Mr. BELIN. All right. Then we went out on the street, did we not, in front of the building, with a stopwatch, do you remember that?
Mrs. REID. Yes; I surely do. It was kind of cool.
Mr. BELIN. It was kind of cool wasn't it, and a little bit windy.
Mrs. REID. Yes; it was; yes.
Mr. BELIN. And when in Dallas, we started the stopwatch from the time that the last shot was fired, is that correct?
Mrs. REID. That is right.
Mr. BELIN. And then you went through your actions, what you saw, your conversations that you had, and your actions in going back into the building and up to the point that you saw Lee Harvey Oswald?
Mrs. REID. That is right.
Mr. BELIN. Do you remember how long by the stopwatch it took you?
Mrs. REID. Approximately 2 minutes.
Mr. DULLES. I didn't hear you.
Mrs. REID. Two minutes.
Mr. BELIN. From the time of the last shot the time you and Oswald crossed?
Mrs. REID. Yes; I believe that is the way we timed it.
Mr. BELIN. When you--you saw me start the stopwatch and you saw me stop it there, right?
Mrs. REID. Yes.
Mr. BELIN. When you met in the lunchroom--
Mrs. REID. I didn't meet him in the lunchroom.

Whoa!, there, Mr. Belin, hold your horses there mister (it's understandable you have a hastily contrived script to follow, but save the phantom lunch room hoax for Truly & Baker).
By now we all knowin spite of what Mrs. Reid's testimony about what her own phantom 2[SUP]nd[/SUP] floor encounter insinuates, the photographic record clearly demonstrates that she outright lied.

Interestingly enoughwithout filling this post up with the other suggestive exploits of that same Stopwatch used on the same afternoon as Mrs, Reid's outright lie, Baker's testimony also describes his own date & experience with the same Stopwatch on March 20, 1964 ----->

Mr. BELIN - With the stopwatch?
Mr. BAKER - Yes, sir.

The plain simple truth doesn't require staging, phony-props, gadgets and/or questionable exploits of bias Stopwatches amid controlled outcomes to serve a legion of lies.
Now, speaking of a hastily contrived script, let's move on…here's yet another one of many oddities surrounding Baker's experience that afternoon ---->

Mr. BELIN - You then ran into the Building, is that correct?
Mr. BAKER - That is correct, sir.
Mr. BELIN - What did you see and what did you do as you ran into the building?
Mr. BAKER - As I entered this building, there was, it seems to me like there was outside doors and then there is a little lobby.
Mr. BELIN - All right.
Mr. BAKER - And then there are some inner doors and another door you have to go through, a swinging door type.
As I entered this lobby there were people going in as I entered. And I asked, I just spoke out and asked where the stairs or elevator was.

IF Baker's actions were indicative of the behavior of any legitimate officer's experience, instead of being controlled by a hastily contrived script the next day to FRAME an innocent party at the rear of the building, Why didn't he simply charge up these front entrance stairs ----->

[Image: attachment.php?attachmentid=9193&stc=1]

Photo Credit Mr. Kelly's website

How many police officers, genuinely hell-bent on getting up to the roof to investigate why the pigeons took flight would pass this golden opportunity point?

Moreover, what genuine officer would leave this area open to the possibility of an escaping gunman?!

Wouldn't it be more reasonable for a responding officer--without a hastily contrived script to fulfill--to secure this area immediately?

There's something about this hastily contrived script that is beginning to smell like pigeon droppings....fetch your boots everyone.

Sidebar: At this point, I doubt Baker really entered the TSBD from the front as much as from the rearafter sprinting over to the corner of Elm & Houston initially. Subsequent actions brought him to the rear entrance of the building…which is in close proximity to the West elevator the white helmeted motorcycle officer rode up to the 5[SUP]th[/SUP] floor on, the same West elevator Jack Dougherty made available when he brought it down to determine what just happened as bedlam ensued in Dealey Plaza.

Just who is this white helmeted motorcycle officer?

Why did Mrs. Reid outright lie about a phantom encounter with the wrongly accused?

Reality (Sheriff Wiseman's experience ='s a Locked roof); and, contrast with a mere script to follow (hastily contrived ='s an extended stay up on the that same Locked roof)

Wonder just how fast Mrs. Reid, Judas and 4triesBaker actually told their lies...On your mark, get set, Go! ----->

[Image: attachment.php?attachmentid=9194&stc=1]


Oh, Mrs. Reid, one more thing dear, Were you timed in your high-heels?

Amazing what some people will do/say for thirty pieces of silver...

Anatomy of the Second Floor Lunchroom Encounter - LR Trotter - 20-08-2017

Alan Ford Wrote:G'Day, Mr. Mitcham

Back later today sir with more revelations running counter to the phantom 2nd floor encounter with the wrongly accused, starring Mrs. Reid, etc. Meanwhile, to your knowledge--given your vast research experience and invaluable contributions on this five decades old murder mystery, Do you know where someone interested in the composition of the official parade procession participates that afternoon could find that information?

No problem either way, Mr. Mitcham, just trying to visually place Baker's motorcycle position in perspective of the fully assembled ensemble.


Sidebar: Who got to Truly? ----->

A relative of Depository superintendent RoyTruly recently told researchers that due to intimidation by federalauthorities, Truly was fearful until his death. Truly's wife, Mildred,still refuses to discuss the assassination--even with family members. -- Excerpted from Dealey Plaza Intimidation

Was Truly threatened and subsequently forced to lie about a phantom 2nd floor encounter with the wrongly accuse?

Did that imposing intimidation force him to recruit Mrs. Reid to aid in lying about the same?

Did Truly's relatives come to know the feds made him an offer he couldn't refuse?

Mrs. Reid had a choice in the matter, but chose to lie nevertheless. Does an unshakable paralyzing fear cloud judgment and impact decisions people make?

On an encouraging note, at least Revolutionary hero Nathan Hale would have had the courage to tell the feds where to go, how to get there, and what they could do along the way. Truly is no Nathan Hale.

Addendum @ 6:28PM EST

STOPWATCH

Mr. BELIN. By the "X" and that is where you were when you passed him.
On March 20 you and I met for the first time, didn't we, Mrs. Reid?
Mrs. REID. That is right.
Mr. BELIN. We sat down and I asked you to tell me what happened and, you related the story. Did I keep on questioning you or did you tell me what happened?
Mrs. REID. Well, I more or less told you what had happened.
Mr. BELIN. All right. Then we went out on the street, did we not, in front of the building, with a stopwatch, do you remember that?
Mrs. REID. Yes; I surely do. It was kind of cool.
Mr. BELIN. It was kind of cool wasn't it, and a little bit windy.
Mrs. REID. Yes; it was; yes.
Mr. BELIN. And when in Dallas, we started the stopwatch from the time that the last shot was fired, is that correct?
Mrs. REID. That is right.
Mr. BELIN. And then you went through your actions, what you saw, your conversations that you had, and your actions in going back into the building and up to the point that you saw Lee Harvey Oswald?
Mrs. REID. That is right.
Mr. BELIN. Do you remember how long by the stopwatch it took you?
Mrs. REID. Approximately 2 minutes.
Mr. DULLES. I didn't hear you.
Mrs. REID. Two minutes.
Mr. BELIN. From the time of the last shot the time you and Oswald crossed?
Mrs. REID. Yes; I believe that is the way we timed it.
Mr. BELIN. When you--you saw me start the stopwatch and you saw me stop it there, right?
Mrs. REID. Yes.
Mr. BELIN. When you met in the lunchroom--
Mrs. REID. I didn't meet him in the lunchroom.

Whoa!, there, Mr. Belin, hold your horses there mister (it's understandable you have a hastily contrived script to follow, but save the phantom lunch room hoax for Truly & Baker).
By now we all knowin spite of what Mrs. Reid's testimony about what her own phantom 2[SUP]nd[/SUP] floor encounter insinuates, the photographic record clearly demonstrates that she outright lied.

Interestingly enoughwithout filling this post up with the other suggestive exploits of that same Stopwatch used on the same afternoon as Mrs, Reid's outright lie, Baker's testimony also describes his own date & experience with the same Stopwatch on March 20, 1964 ----->

Mr. BELIN - With the stopwatch?
Mr. BAKER - Yes, sir.

The plain simple truth doesn't require staging, phony-props, gadgets and/or questionable exploits of bias Stopwatches amid controlled outcomes to serve a legion of lies.
Now, speaking of a hastily contrived script, let's move on…here's yet another one of many oddities surrounding Baker's experience that afternoon ---->

Mr. BELIN - You then ran into the Building, is that correct?
Mr. BAKER - That is correct, sir.
Mr. BELIN - What did you see and what did you do as you ran into the building?
Mr. BAKER - As I entered this building, there was, it seems to me like there was outside doors and then there is a little lobby.
Mr. BELIN - All right.
Mr. BAKER - And then there are some inner doors and another door you have to go through, a swinging door type.
As I entered this lobby there were people going in as I entered. And I asked, I just spoke out and asked where the stairs or elevator was.

IF Baker's actions were indicative of the behavior of any legitimate officer's experience, instead of being controlled by a hastily contrived script the next day to FRAME an innocent party at the rear of the building, Why didn't he simply charge up these front entrance stairs ----->

[Image: attachment.php?attachmentid=9193&stc=1]

Photo Credit Mr. Kelly's website

How many police officers, genuinely hell-bent on getting up to the roof to investigate why the pigeons took flight would pass this golden opportunity point?

Moreover, what genuine officer would leave this area open to the possibility of an escaping gunman?!

Wouldn't it be more reasonable for a responding officer--without a hastily contrived script to fulfill--to secure this area immediately?

There's something about this hastily contrived script that is beginning to smell like pigeon droppings....fetch your boots everyone.

Sidebar: At this point, I doubt Baker really entered the TSBD from the front as much as from the rearafter sprinting over to the corner of Elm & Houston initially. Subsequent actions brought him to the rear entrance of the building…which is in close proximity to the West elevator the white helmeted motorcycle officer rode up to the 5[SUP]th[/SUP] floor on, the same West elevator Jack Dougherty made available when he brought it down to determine what just happened as bedlam ensued in Dealey Plaza.

Just who is this white helmeted motorcycle officer?

Why did Mrs. Reid outright lie about a phantom encounter with the wrongly accused?

Reality (Sheriff Wiseman's experience ='s a Locked roof); and, contrast with a mere script to follow (hastily contrived ='s an extended stay up on the that same Locked roof)

Wonder just how fast Mrs. Reid, Judas and 4triesBaker actually told their lies...On your mark, get set, Go! ----->

[Image: attachment.php?attachmentid=9194&stc=1]


Oh, Mrs. Reid, one more thing dear, Were you timed in your high-heels?

Amazing what some people will do/say for thirty pieces of silver...
[URL="http://jfkassassination.net/russ/testimony/reid.htm"]
Just in case something was missed and/or misunderstood, the testimony of Mrs Robert A (GeraldineBray) Reid can be found at:
http://jfkassassination.net/russ/testimony/reid.htm[/URL]

Anatomy of the Second Floor Lunchroom Encounter - Ray Mitcham - 20-08-2017

Alan Ford Wrote:G'Day, Mr. Mitcham

Back later today sir with more revelations running counter to the phantom 2nd floor encounter with the wrongly accused, starring Mrs. Reid, etc. Meanwhile, to your knowledge--given your vast research experience and invaluable contributions on this five decades old murder mystery, Do you know where someone interested in the composition of the official parade procession participates that afternoon could find that information?

This may be of some use, Alan.
Motorcade vehicles and personnel[edit]

The following lists the order of the vehicles in the Nov. 22, 1963 Dallas Presidential motorcade, along with their occupants:[SUP][18][/SUP]
Presidential motorcade route
The route scheduled to be driven was as follows: left turn from the south end of Love Field to West Mockingbird Lane, right on Lemmon Ave., right at the "Y" on Turtle Creek Blvd, straight on Cedar Springs Rd, left on North Harwood St, right on Main St, right on Houston St, sharp left on Elm St, through Triple Underpass, right turn up ramp to North Stemmons Freeway, to Dallas Trade Mart at 2100 North Stemmons (This same exact route cannot be driven today; there is a "No right turn" sign on the corner of Main and Houston as well as highway progressions in other areas)

Anatomy of the Second Floor Lunchroom Encounter - Alan Ford - 20-08-2017

First & foremost, a note of thanks & appreciation to Mr. Mitcham, Cheers to you sir 2 ::thumbsup::'s Up

Now, back to the unraveling hasty contrived script starring Mrs. Reid & Co.

In the testimony of Welcome Eugene Barnett, a Dallas policeman, we learn a few interesting things. In no particular order of importance, we learn that the front entrance of the Texas School Book Depository was covered by himself and another officer , J.D. Smith, within 2 ½ minutes during the immediate aftermath of the assassination, well before officialdom's make beLIEve hasty getaway of the wrongly accused.

Another point of interest/note within Barnett's testimony is his sighting of other officers at the rear, back entrance doing his initial movements amid those 2 ½ minutes. Culled from the respective testimonies given by his mates assigned to traffic duty at the corner of Houston & Elm with him, neither J.D. Smith nor Edgar L. Smith, took a path to the rear back entrance, pursuing paths down Elm street instead.

Barnett's observations makes the case that officers were in the rear of the building. Of course, he doesn't have eyes in the back of his head, so he had no way of knowing as he raced back to the front of the building if one or more of them went inside. However, given Jack Dougherty's actions, bringing the West elevator downstairs to the first floor; and, Bonnie Ray William's sighting of a white helmeted motorcycle officer arriving up on the 5[SUP]th[/SUP] floor via Jack Dougherty's elevator, we learn that at least one of those officers sighted by Barnett enters from the rear entrance.

Though Sgt. D.V. Harkness was back there, as a department supervisor he wore a white hat, rather than a white motorcycle helmet.

Who was/is that white helmeted motorcycle officer? After sprinting initially to the corner of Elm & Houston, Did Baker catch a glimpse of the same individual Mr. Worrell (James) saw running away from the back of the building?, the same individual curiously enough matches both of their respective descriptions in their separate reports/placements

The third point of interest/note in Barnett's testimony is the following excerpted exchange ----->

Mr. LIEBELER - Did you notice Oswald around that area at anytime?
Mr. BARNETT - No, sir.
Mr. LIEBELER - Later on you saw his picture in the paper and, of course, on television?
Mr. BARNETT - Yes, sir.
Mr. LIEBELER - You have no recollection of seeing him in the area at all?
Mr. BARNETT - None whatsoever. There were hundreds of people in that intersection.
Mr. LIEBELER - Have you ever talked to any other officer in the department that remember seeing him in the area at all?
Mr. BARNETT - No, I haven't.
Mr. LIEBELER - Have you heard of anybody that saw him there at the time?
Mr. BARNETT - Well, of course, I heard the officersthat went up in the building and talked to him.

Barnett either didn't get the memo, entitled, a phantom 2[SUP]nd[/SUP] floor encounter with a single officer, or is simply telling the truth @ officers

And, now most interestingsome three months after Baker's own testimony and a full 8 months plus one day after the fateful day …


Mr. LIEBELER - Officer Baker was one?
Mr. BARNETT - I haven't talked to the officer.

By this time, IF it was true, it would be common knowledge around the water cooler that Baker was not just one of the officers, but the only one according to him, Truly and Mrs. Reid's version of "truth".

Did Barnett and Lt. Kaminski know better?

Why was Lt. Kaminski demoted ?


Thinking on his feet counsel quickly redirects the inquiry away before Barnett could actually name specific officers---->

Mr. LIEBELER - So you were pretty sure fairly quickly that the shots had come from the Texas School Book Depository?
Mr. BARNETT - Yes, sir.

Sidebar:

*A Locked roof

*What is the the actual identity of the white helmeted motorcycle officer?, who arrived up on the 5[SUP]th[/SUP] floor on the same West elevator Jack Dougherty took down just minutes before to the first floor.

*Why did Mrs. Reid outright lie about a phantom 2[SUP]nd[/SUP] floor encounter with the wrongly accused?

Anatomy of the Second Floor Lunchroom Encounter - LR Trotter - 21-08-2017

Alan Ford Wrote:First & foremost, a note of thanks & appreciation to Mr. Mitcham, Cheers to you sir 2 ::thumbsup::'s Up

Now, back to the unraveling hasty contrived script starring Mrs. Reid & Co.

In the testimony of Welcome Eugene Barnett, a Dallas policeman, we learn a few interesting things. In no particular order of importance, we learn that the front entrance of the Texas School Book Depository was covered by himself and another officer , J.D. Smith, within 2 ½ minutes during the immediate aftermath of the assassination, well before officialdom's make beLIEve hasty getaway of the wrongly accused.

Another point of interest/note within Barnett's testimony is his sighting of other officers at the rear, back entrance doing his initial movements amid those 2 ½ minutes. Culled from the respective testimonies given by his mates assigned to traffic duty at the corner of Houston & Elm with him, neither J.D. Smith nor Edgar L. Smith, took a path to the rear back entrance, pursuing paths down Elm street instead.

Barnett's observations makes the case that officers were in the rear of the building. Of course, he doesn't have eyes in the back of his head, so he had no way of knowing as he raced back to the front of the building if one or more of them went inside. However, given Jack Dougherty's actions, bringing the West elevator downstairs to the first floor; and, Bonnie Ray William's sighting of a white helmeted motorcycle officer arriving up on the 5[SUP]th[/SUP] floor via Jack Dougherty's elevator, we learn that at least one of those officers sighted by Barnett enters from the rear entrance.

Though Sgt. D.V. Harkness was back there, as a department supervisor he wore a white hat, rather than a white motorcycle helmet.

Who was/is that white helmeted motorcycle officer? After sprinting initially to the corner of Elm & Houston, Did Baker catch a glimpse of the same individual Mr. Worrell (James) saw running away from the back of the building?, the same individual curiously enough matches both of their respective descriptions in their separate reports/placements

The third point of interest/note in Barnett's testimony is the following excerpted exchange ----->

Mr. LIEBELER - Did you notice Oswald around that area at anytime?
Mr. BARNETT - No, sir.
Mr. LIEBELER - Later on you saw his picture in the paper and, of course, on television?
Mr. BARNETT - Yes, sir.
Mr. LIEBELER - You have no recollection of seeing him in the area at all?
Mr. BARNETT - None whatsoever. There were hundreds of people in that intersection.
Mr. LIEBELER - Have you ever talked to any other officer in the department that remember seeing him in the area at all?
Mr. BARNETT - No, I haven't.
Mr. LIEBELER - Have you heard of anybody that saw him there at the time?
Mr. BARNETT - Well, of course, I heard the officersthat went up in the building and talked to him.

Barnett either didn't get the memo, entitled, a phantom 2[SUP]nd[/SUP] floor encounter with a single officer, or is simply telling the truth @ officers

And, now most interestingsome three months after Baker's own testimony and a full 8 months plus one day after the fateful day …


Mr. LIEBELER - Officer Baker was one?
Mr. BARNETT - I haven't talked to the officer.

By this time, IF it was true, it would be common knowledge around the water cooler that Baker was not just one of the officers, but the only one according to him, Truly and Mrs. Reid's version of "truth".

Did Barnett and Lt. Kaminski know better?

Why was Lt. Kaminski demoted ?


Thinking on his feet counsel quickly redirects the inquiry away before Barnett could actually name specific officers---->

Mr. LIEBELER - So you were pretty sure fairly quickly that the shots had come from the Texas School Book Depository?
Mr. BARNETT - Yes, sir.

Sidebar:

*A Locked roof

*What is the the actual identity of the white helmeted motorcycle officer?, who arrived up on the 5[SUP]th[/SUP] floor on the same West elevator Jack Dougherty took down just minutes before to the first floor.

*Why did Mrs. Reid outright lie about a phantom 2[SUP]nd[/SUP] floor encounter with the wrongly accused?

I do believe DPD Officer WelcomeEugeneBarnett actually revised his timing regarding the area searching prior to beginning "coverage" of the TSBD Building front entrance from 2.5 minutes to 3.0 minutes, after the 3rd shot, which still appears "optimistic", especially since "officers were searching the railroad cars", as well as his "running to get the name of the building", and then returning to pass the information to his Sergeant during that time period. He also was unable to remember his Lieutenant's name that gave clearance for exit/entry into the TSBD, along with stating he covered the door from 11:30am until 3:00pm, but corrected the 11:30am to 12:30pm, which appears optimistic as well. And, his statement regarding an unseen LeeHarveyOswald,"Well, of course, I heard the officers('){?} that went up into the building and talked to him", could have been a misstatement, or possibly a typing/transcription error. So, was his meaning plural officers? Or could he have said, or meant to say,"I heard the officer's account"? He did say, when asked about Officer ML Baker, that he did not speak to him.
However, while I consider possible testimony errors, it is not my intent, and see no reason to believe WEB purposely lied.

http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/russ/m_j_russ/barnett.htm

Anatomy of the Second Floor Lunchroom Encounter - Alan Ford - 21-08-2017

Good afternoon, hope everyone has a good seat for the solar eclipse experience on tap today.

Now, back to Truly's "truth" amid a hastily contrived script ---->

Mr. BELIN. When you saw the President's car seem to stop, how long did it appear to stop?
Mr. TRULY. It would be hard to say over a second or two or something like that. I didn't see I just saw it stop. I don't know. I didn't see it start up.
Mr. BELIN. Then you stopped looking at it, or you were distracted by something else?
Mr. TRULY. Yes. The crowd in front of me kind of congealed around me and bore me back through weight of numbers, and I lost sight of it.
I think there were a lot of people trying to get out of the way of something. They didn't know what.
Mr. BELIN. Then what did you do or see?
Mr. TRULY. I heard a policeman in this area along here make a remark, "Oh, goddam," or something like that. I just remember that. It wasn't a motorcycle policeman. It was one of the Dallas policeman, I think-- words to that effect.
I wouldn't know him. I just remember there was a policeman standing along in this area about 7, 8, or 10 feet from me.
But as I came back here, and everybody. was screaming and hollering, just moments later-I saw a young motorcycle policeman run up to the building, up the steps to the entrance of our building. He ran right by me. And he was pushing people out of the way. He pushed a number of people out of the way before he got to me. I saw him coming through, I believe. As he ran up the stairway--I mean up the steps….

Contrary to the hastily contrived script that Truly has to follow, let's take a look at what really transpires as oppose to his part in creating a false narrative ---->

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l7p1ntLF--s

Q1: Where in the clip does it demonstrate Truly's "truth" about, quote, The crowd in front of me kind of congealed around me and bore me back through weight of numbers, and I lost sight of it"

Q2: Where in the video does it demonstrate Truly's truth" about, quote, He pushed a number of people out of the way before he got to me.

On the contrary, Truly, no one, and I mean no one, not a single person bore you back anywhere through weight of sheer numbers. As the clip demonstrates Truly is forgetting where reality reigns and what his hastily contrived script has to convey, a false narrative.

Where in the clip does it demonstrate Baker is pushing, quote, a number of people out of the way before he got to Truly?

The only thing Truly has, quote, lost sight of is the plain simple truth.

Does a single video clip exist actually showing Baker entering the building via Truly's "truth"? NO
Cameras all over the place that afternoon, yet not a single film, not one, exists depicting Truly's "truth" about Baker's make beLIEve front door entrance.

So, Why was the video suddenly snipped before Bakers actual movements could be determined one way or the other?

----> a hastily contrived script was in play, making beLIEve that Baker enters the main entrance as oppose to sprinting down to the corner of Elm & Houston....Who was the white helmeted motorcycle officer who arrived up on the 5[SUP]th[/SUP] floor on the West elevator?, the same West elevator Jack Dougherty rode down upon.

Now, there's this testimony from Joseph Molina ---->

Mr. BALL. Did you see Mr. Truly go into the building?
Mr. MOLINA. Yes.
Mr. BALL. Where were you when you saw him go into the building?
Mr. MOLINA. I was right in the entrance.
Mr. BALL. Did you see a police officer with him?
Mr. MOLINA. I didn't see a police officer. I don't recall seeing a police officer but I did see him go inside.
Mr. BALL. Did you see a white-helmeted police officer any time there in the entrance?
Mr. MOLINA. Well, of course, there might have been one after they secured the building, you know.
Mr. BALL. No, I mean when Truly went in; did you see Truly actually go into the building?
Mr. MOLINA. I saw him go in.
Mr. BALL. Where were you standing?
Mr. MOLINA. Right at the front door; right at the front door.
Mr. BALL. Outside the front door?
Mr. MOLINA. Yes, outside the front door I was standing; the door was right behind me.
Mr. BALL. Were you standing on the steps?
Mr. MOLINA. Yes, on the uppermost step.
Mr. BALL. You actually saw Truly go
Mr. MOLINA. Yeah.
Mr. BALL. You were still standing there?
Mr. MOLINA. Yes.
Mr. BALL. How long was it after you heard the shots?
Mr. MOLINA. Oh, I would venture to say maybe 20 or 30 seconds afterwards.

It's quite obvious clear Mr. Molina didn't get the memo about supporting Truly's "truth", a false narrative. Also of note is Mr. Molina's 20 or 30 seconds @ Truly's actual entrance time, well behind the time he says he accompanied make BeLIEve Baker in their false narrative. No wonder this man, his wife and children were terrorized in their own home by the authorities later that night.

And then there's this testimony from Buell Wesley Frazier (he is the tallest figure standing at the very top of the stairs in the middle of your viewing screen in this video clip ----> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l7p1ntLF--s , thus his vantage point is akin to a front row seat at Madison Square Garden) ---->

Mr. BALL - Did you see anybody after that come into the Building while you were there?
Mr. FRAZIER - You mean somebody other that didn't work there?
Mr. BALL - A police officer.
Mr. FRAZIER - No, sir; I stood there a few minutes, you know, and some people who worked there; you know normally started to go back into the Building because a lot of us didn't eat our lunch, and so we stared back into the Building and it wasn't but just a few minutes that there were a lot of police officers and so forth all over the Building there.
Mr. BALL - Then you went back into the Building, did you?
Mr. FRAZIER - Right.
Mr. BALL - And before you went back into the Building no police officer came up the steps and into the building?
Mr. FRAZIER - Not that I know. They could walk by the way and I was standing there talking to somebody else and didn't see it.

There's a major difference between what we are lead to believe in the false narrative about Baker charging up the front stairs immediately as oppose to an officer a few minutes later merely walking up…Nice job, Mr. Frazier (Buell Wesley).

We've watched the clip. It does not agree with Truly's "truth".

Moreover, the reason the clip is cut short is to prevent demonstrating Baker's actual sprint over to the corner of Elm & Houston...the false narrative didn't need another Mrs. Reid moment.

We also have testimonies of two separate individuals standing at the front door, yet they did not see Baker run up those stairs, nor enter the building.

Nor did we see any evidence within the clip that anyone actually standing upon those stepsvia their body-languagewas convinced he was even heading up the stairs, otherwise the two aforementioned individuals and everyone else on that landing would have instinctively moved out of the way to the farthest extreme on other side of the steps to make room for him.

Sidebar: Points to ponder…

*A Locked roof

*A white helmeted motorcycle officer arriving up on the 5[SUP]th[/SUP] floor via the same West elevator Jack Dougherty immediately took down to the first floor. Just who is this man?

*Why did Mrs. Reid tell an outright lie about a phantom 2[SUP]nd[/SUP] floor encounter with the wrongly accused ?